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Apple's New Siri Will Be Powered By Google Gemini
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OpenAI is a mess from a corporate structure standpoint, and Elon Musk is involved there, whose reputation is at the very least questionable. It could potentially be an unreliable and reputation-damaging partner for Apple.
From this perspective, Google would be a better partner.
From this perspective, Google would be a better partner.
$1 billion was in 2014. In 2022 they paid $20 billion: https://www.macrumors.com/2024/05/01/google-default-search-engine-safari-20-billion/
There are no CPU & GPU resources left for local LLM now that Liquid Glass hogs all the resources.
That's WHY they are paying Google. Because they are not going to be sharing the user data. If they were sharing the user data, it would be way more valuable than $1B, and it would be Google paying Apple-- not the other way around.lol why would apple pay them. Google pays them a lot to use google as their default search engine. or at least they used too. they will be providing google so much datafor their ai
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This is simply incorrect. Read the article.
It's very in vogue for one to signal how anti-AI they are these days. I view it simply as a tool to be used or not, based on need and preference. Insanely annoying how everything has to be politicized and turned into a team sport.
This will be on Apple’s private cloud compute. Google will not have access to data, based on reports.lol why would apple pay them. Google pays them a lot to use google as their default search engine. or at least they used too. they will be providing google so much data
If Google gets its way, you won't have to worry about that:
https://arstechnica.com/google/2025...googles-plan-to-put-ai-data-centers-in-space/
You can’t run any useful general-purpose LLM locally on an iPhone. The Gemini model at 1.2 trillion parameters requires several terabytes of RAM.
With Apple’s RAM pricing, that would be a $200,000 or so iPhone.
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the fact that facebook keeps stealing all of Apple’s employees doesn’t help
Like others said, I'll definitely keep it off.
highly skeptical of any Google inclusion —Sony Bravia had a great thing going with AndroidTV ...then came the switch to GoogleTV in '22. The whole experience was ruined, a great smart TV became bloated, slow, and turned into a brick if you didn't login and allow google. Everything is funneled thru Google and their 'required access for features', any autonomy and privacy of the device is gone.
highly skeptical of any Google inclusion —Sony Bravia had a great thing going with AndroidTV ...then came the switch to GoogleTV in '22. The whole experience was ruined, a great smart TV became bloated, slow, and turned into a brick if you didn't login and allow google. Everything is funneled thru Google and their 'required access for features', any autonomy and privacy of the device is gone.
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The question is ...
Will Siri look up to Gemini and decide being educated and geeky is a good thing, or will Gemini look down to Siri - playing in the mud and giggling - and decide that ignorance is bliss?
Will Siri look up to Gemini and decide being educated and geeky is a good thing, or will Gemini look down to Siri - playing in the mud and giggling - and decide that ignorance is bliss?
If I wanted Google AI on my iPhone I would have just bought a Samsung Galaxy. At this point the most Apple like AI I can get is from Meta since they have hired away most of Apple’s AI talent.
This is not "Google AI on your iPhone." Read the article.
In about 5 years, we will all subscribe to a personal AI that will slip in and out of all devices with APIs from the host company. We will get embedded with the personal AI so switching will be difficult.
Apple really screwed things up here in terms of development. All the key players went to Google and then they did this.
Apple really screwed things up here in terms of development. All the key players went to Google and then they did this.
why would anyone want their phone to do less? 🤷♂️
This is exactly what it is. Article couldn't be any clearer
Definitely Gemini will be the tsukkomi and Siri the boke.
I wonder why they didn't start with an open-weights model like Google's Gemma or literally any other offering with a permissive license. Suppose it's easier to throw a cool billion at Sundar and have his guys figure out your problems.
Google and Apple may compete in some areas, but clearly there's a fair amount of professional trust and respect in that business relationship. Sam Altman -- and also Zuckerberg -- are looking to play a much different, zero-sum game, and it's clear neither of them are trustworthy. It makes sense for Apple and Google to partner on this. Google gets to trim a billion off the search engine bill to Apple, Apple gets a temporary boost to get its first-party AI working in early 2026, and both companies make plays to box out Meta and OpenAI from gaining too much marketshare.
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