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The continued bugs, lack of substantive new features, and inability to execute on their ideas without outsourcing makes me think Apple engineers are paid too much. It took them 3 years to design Liquid Glass for crying out loud. They haven't improved the skills of the original Apple Intelligence from 18.2. Heck, they haven't fixed App Library since it launched on iOS 14.
It’s religion called Apple. That is why most of commentators would experience other technology than Apple
 
Look at it this way. Google is paying Apple 20 billion per year for Google to be the default search engine inside Safari. Apple is just reducing that payola by 1.2 billion per year. Consider it a discount for Google.

Makes me think of this image (below), which someone posted referencing the AI "financing deals" (that are circular and sending money back and forth between the same entities)

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Too often I've found Gemini to incorrect and lost all trust its summaries. Really annoyed Siri will be powered by this crap. Annoyed at Apple too for being too scattered to focus on areas that would enhance the use of their core products like phones and Macs. I'm way too deep into the Apple ecosystem to have jump ship should a competitor come along that beats Apple at what it used to do best (and that's whole other separate debate).
 
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Makes me think of this image (below), which someone posted referencing the AI "financing deals" (that are circular and sending money back and forth between the same entities)

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If Apple pulls off a competent Siri revamp on the back of what investors see as a $1 billion spend, and it pushes up their share price and maybe helps with hardware sales, there's going to be even more pressure on the big AI firms to justify those insane capex figures right now.
 
I’ve also played around with local models by Google and found them to be not that great compared to others.

Obviously these models are significantly smaller than what is referenced in this article, my perception is that Google is also behind the competition on AI.
That's not the case with these big models. Gemini Pro 2.5 helped me figure out a bug in some of my R code that ChatGPT and Perplexity couldn't help me fix.

I mostly use ChatGPT but Gemini Pro 2.5 is really good and mostly indistinguishable from other models I try.

/This code was for a one time statistical analysis. The analysis was also run independently by another person in SAS. We ended up with the exact same result once I got the bug sorted out with help from Gemini.
 
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It’s been widely reported on just the Open-AI / Oracle / Nvidia circle…(ahem) “club”. 100 billion dollar round robin of investment between these three on a regular basis.
 
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It’s surprising how many people have no idea how this even works.
What makes you all think that Google will have access to your data?
Ignorance. I don't think people take the time to understand how the world around them actually works.

People may be surprised to learn just how much of iCloud data already sits on Google Cloud, alongside AWS. These companies store and process so much of our data already across so many things we do. Their entire business would collapse if they could just access their customers data on demand.

Private Cloud Compute is different (using Apple Hardware + Apple's own stack) inside Apple DCs or Colos.

Either way, this is good news for Siri.
 
Concerned about the energy this is going to use. Not sure I need it, not sure I want it, and I wonder about privacy issues.
That’s an interesting point, about energy. Haven’t heard Apple talk about ‘environment’ in a while, maybe the data centers they utilize aren’t able to be run on as much renewable energy as they were expecting to use (prior to AI exploding in popularity)
 
Don't really need AI injected into Siri, just a better memory than Dory.

"Siri, set an urgent reminder called Test for 1pm tomorrow" *
Siri: I have set a reminder for 1pm tomorrow
"Siri, cancel that reminder"
Siri: Which reminder?

I was testing iOS 26.2 beta's new "urgent" reminder feature which sets an alarm. As an aside, the test failed.

Edit: Wow, someone actually read it to the end and realised what a mess I'd made of it 😁
 
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Lots of work being done by the "If" there.
The bar is literally at the floor for Siri right now. They'll pull something off by March that's better than what they have now and buy them enough time to introduce some newer AI features at WWDC26. It's clear the plan is to just keep chipping at this.
 
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