Oh man Microsoft lack several orders of magnitude of culture and taste compared to even modern Apple. There's a long way to fall yet.
As for the original thread, **** this idea in particular. I'm fed up of the tech company tangles. I want out.
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Apple's New Siri Will Be Powered By Google Gemini
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Oh man Microsoft lack several orders of magnitude of culture and taste compared to even modern Apple. There's a long way to fall yet.
As for the original thread, **** this idea in particular. I'm fed up of the tech company tangles. I want out.
This is the correct take. Apple has done this before, they’re using Google’s data in a way that adheres to their privacy values, and it’s only a stopgap while they perfect their first-party solution.
This is honestly excellent news. Gemini is very powerful so it’s a wise choice, and it won’t last forever. Just like Apple Maps caught up to (and in my personal opinion, surpassed) Google Maps, Apple’s LLM will catch up in time and they’ll utilize it when it’s ready.
I would just remind that it took Apple awhile to get their the intel modem chips to be "good". Same may hold true for Ai. Use Google as they did Qualcomm. Then when you're ready. You have two options. In house and either or OpenAI and Gemini.
And that is exactly what you get for TOTALY ignoring the biggest fastest growing tech market due to your utter stubbornness over fake security, now you have to use a third party with a chequered history in selling and buying user data for advertising.....
I do hope Apples shares have gone down today by several points on this news.
I do hope Apples shares have gone down today by several points on this news.
That's what many people concerned about privacy are worried about, since it means that some of their Apple Intelligence/Siri-powered interactions with their devices will be sent to the cloud. Some people don't yet understand that this particular cloud will be Apple's Private Cloud Compute servers rather than Google's servers, and so Google isn't supposed to be able to see any of that data.
I figured as much when Gurman’s article came out talking about engineers inside of Apple who were worried about how the new Siri functionality was coming along.
If Apple were searching for a partner because management already knew their internal LLM’s weren’t up to snuff and wouldn’t be, they’d probably signed confidentiality agreements with the companies whose tech they were evaluating and that knowledge would be shared on very selective, need-to-know basis until they selected a partner and had a deal in place.
Lower level, and likely even some very high level /senior level engineers would’ve been kept in the dark. Once there’s a deal in principal, even if all the details aren’t finalized, then the cat will be let out of the bag because all members of the team(s) working on this will need to know to hit their spring deadline.
That’s exactly what happened here. Even if it’s licensed Google test, if it’s running in Apple’s hardware in Apple’s data centers then they can maintain the kind of privacy protection their customers have come to appreciate them for.
This sounds like a bridge until Apple’s own LLM’s are ready, or perhaps, like with search, Google is at the forefront and both parties find the deal to be lucrative enough to keep it going unless / until a change must be made.
If Apple were searching for a partner because management already knew their internal LLM’s weren’t up to snuff and wouldn’t be, they’d probably signed confidentiality agreements with the companies whose tech they were evaluating and that knowledge would be shared on very selective, need-to-know basis until they selected a partner and had a deal in place.
Lower level, and likely even some very high level /senior level engineers would’ve been kept in the dark. Once there’s a deal in principal, even if all the details aren’t finalized, then the cat will be let out of the bag because all members of the team(s) working on this will need to know to hit their spring deadline.
That’s exactly what happened here. Even if it’s licensed Google test, if it’s running in Apple’s hardware in Apple’s data centers then they can maintain the kind of privacy protection their customers have come to appreciate them for.
This sounds like a bridge until Apple’s own LLM’s are ready, or perhaps, like with search, Google is at the forefront and both parties find the deal to be lucrative enough to keep it going unless / until a change must be made.
Start by tossing out the Siri brand. It's too damaged to be taken seriously
Perplexity doesn’t have their own model.
Building model and applications are two different things. Apple is not good at either
Im using Pro version 3 pro modèles, GPT, Claude and Gemini… then maybe in english is better then French, but for my use is the worse one!
But make great pics if you use it for that…
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I thought they did. I wasn't aware it was just a wrapper, although it looks like they're working on their own LLM. I replied to someone else who mentioned that as well.
Oh, so it's not Siri and it'll steal all our info. Great.
I look forward to what Apple releases and I hope that it is a major improvement. OpenAI lost 12 billion dollars last quarter, I think not partnering with them is smart. Google LLM but running in Apple’s private cloud with Google getting no data access, I am fine with that. People should remember, Siri has sucked from day one and it has never hurt Apple a lot, therefore most people do not care.
they've basically admitted they dont have the skills to make Siri work. and its too expensive to purchase an existing AI app/software company. so they did what Steve did with Microsoft.
Would never happen with Anthropic, Amazon and less so, Alphabet have got there first.
Very mature. I should be surprised by some of the responses here but I'm not. Anyone saying Steve wouldn't do this, even saw a Scott Forrestal have not the slighest clue what there talking about. I'm not overly jazzed about this but I'l do the amazing thing of waiting for more information. Apple has gone a long way and I cannot see a reality they do this and your data is treated any differently than it is now.
There's no bending a knee, or other comments, it's business. The time and expenditure to create a model of that size and run would put Siri back much, much longer. It's also unrealistic that here not in the background working on a replacement as well.
So let's settle down, wait for more information, actual confirmation and then we can jump up and down I guess.
Yes, I was very disappointed that Sony turned to Google to replace their Bravia operating system. I have used Sony's operating system for decades on various TVs and thought that it was marvelous. The supplanting of that with Google TV makes me shudder.
Also as an Apple TV 4K owner, I'd much rather have a "dumb" TV than a so-called smart TV that potentially spies on you. ATV does all that I need as far as connectivity is concerned.
Therefore having Google's camel nose pushing itself into iOS or the MacOS tent is quite unwelcome. Sure it looks like it's sandboxed now, but based on Google's business model of infiltration everywhere it doesn't bode well.
Also as an Apple TV 4K owner, I'd much rather have a "dumb" TV than a so-called smart TV that potentially spies on you. ATV does all that I need as far as connectivity is concerned.
Therefore having Google's camel nose pushing itself into iOS or the MacOS tent is quite unwelcome. Sure it looks like it's sandboxed now, but based on Google's business model of infiltration everywhere it doesn't bode well.
Respectfully, I found his post more on point than your reply
Complete and total failure on Apples part. This is jut an unbelievable failure to understand the market and now google is going to be a key piece of my phone. I dont want it and it's a mess.
Apple losing face? I'd call it realism. Remember when Apple passed a deal with Microsoft, adopting Internet Explorer and so on, and later switched to Intel chips? I'm pretty sure that if Jobs somehow returned and looked at the state of Siri, he would think "Been there, done that". If Apple can do things better than its competitors, great, but if not (printers, cars, AI, etc.), there's no point in being stubborn.
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It's google....it will be off device just sending all your data and info to google which they will carefully respect.