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Apple's New Siri Will Be Powered By Google Gemini
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JordiS
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Eventually there’ll be no difference between using a Pixel or an iPhone… 🙄
mrmacuser69
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The number of people commenting on this thread who are hard of understanding, or unable/unwilling to read very clear information is actually quite frightening.
Uuuuh, Tim Cook won't even be able to sleep tonight. Mentaluproar is going to stop using the Apple ecosystem.
It’s the same thing as Spotlight using Google search for looking for things off-device. Given the oncoming bubble pop because no pure AI company turns a profit it makes perfect sense to go with a safer bet like Google. I’d quite like it as an option in VI too.
iLuddite
macrumors 6502a
Erm, that reaction score says otherwise, sweetie....
JaydenA
macrumors regular
Great, we will change from "I found this for you on the web" to "Based on what I can see on your phone I hallucinated this for you".
Some people love AI and I am happy they have a technology they find handy and more productive, I fall into the other camp and can't trust the made-up outputs; preferring real human experts.
I also seriously desire trust and privacy on my devices and anything that has access to that private data and relays the info willy-nilly back to any homebase as Siri's slated context awareness will absolutely violates my comfort.
Even with claims of "pinkie promise we won't train on your data or allow government pre-crime scanning" we know it's too juicy a target for them not to.
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Some people love AI and I am happy they have a technology they find handy and more productive, I fall into the other camp and can't trust the made-up outputs; preferring real human experts.
I also seriously desire trust and privacy on my devices and anything that has access to that private data and relays the info willy-nilly back to any homebase as Siri's slated context awareness will absolutely violates my comfort.
Even with claims of "pinkie promise we won't train on your data or allow government pre-crime scanning" we know it's too juicy a target for them not to.
Why do some of us love AI, while others hate it? The answer is in how our brains perceive risk and trust
Sometimes, distrust of machines can be a rational reaction.
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Dark_Omen
macrumors 65816
"Once" is the point.
Tim Cook's Apple is simply unable to hire skilled software engineers. Not only that, but under him, Apple has been unable to keep software engineers. A multi-trillion dollar company can't pay to keep engineers around?
The stupidity by Apple's engineers is seen everyday -- mostly by people that work with phones:
- Every time I help someone complete a phone to phone transfer, it gets stuck at the iCloud "login" screen and spins and spins. You have to restart both phones to get it to work properly. Only been an issue for over a year now -- still not fixed.
- Siri has been around since 2011. You're telling me an entire team of engineers were incapable of programming AI machine learning into the software after all this time? How did Siri not learn to be better on its own. How do you not continue to build a smarter assistant based on year to year coding improvements?
appleCakes
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Apple, just say we ditched Siri for Gemini. Biggest accomplishment of the Siri team in the past 5 years: Changing the wake word from Hey Siri to Siri (which is not as reliable).
avanpelt
macrumors 68030
$1B per year for an AI model. Wow. I wonder what the length of the contract is?
Tell me we are in a bubble without telling me we are in a bubble. These companies are spending $100's of billions to build out data centers and when one of the largest users available comes to use their AI, it only costs $1B? I'm terrible at math but that math doesn't seem to math.
SLVDE
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Copy, didn't realize. If they did buy Anthropic, I'd argue a "buy once cry once" mentality, especially given how much cash Apple has on hand. They are falling behind fast and it's unfortunate how much turnover they have had, mostly thanks to all the poaching. I know Apple is never first to the party but at this point their AI footprint is almost non-existent and I'd like to hope they catch up.
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Thats exactly how I feel. I try to stay as far away from Google as I can. Extremely disappointed in Apple over this decision.
Gurman and MR need to do some digging on this story.
Do they actually believe Google is giving up half the phone market (closer to 60% actually) in the US for the paltry sum of $1 B a year, when they are spending 90$ B on AI infrastructure this year? If true, that will cause a crash in AI stocks,
There must be a quiet deal, for a lot more than $1 billion a year, to use the Google Cloud to host this. Don't tell me Apple. with their relatively tiny investment in datacenter, has this capacity.
I share your sentiments. The only Google service I use is YouTube Premium, which is in desperate need of competition. That being said, I do not trust Google, and now Apple is giving me even more reason not to trust them. They did not have to go with Gemini.
How much will Apple charge for this? No way it will be free. If the main LLMs cost $20 or more a month, I would expect the same from Apple. And for a lot of that money to flow to Google cloud, who will no doubt be much of the hardware running Apple's 'private cloud'.
Dark_Omen
macrumors 65816
Many folks commenting here don't even realize that Apple isn't sharing the data, yet, sit here and comment about how their data is about to be stolen. It shows you how many people either can't or don't read the article.
That’s because it’s garbage and it’s deliberately designed to reflect the half ass job apple did
There was a time when Apple’s devices were powered by non-Apple CPU’s. It took a LOOONG time, but they finally got there. What Apple has that no AI company has yet, is hardware that EVERY one of those AI companies want to be available on.
When Apple comes up with their own solution, they won’t have to look around and see who’s hardware it will run on.
When Apple comes up with their own solution, they won’t have to look around and see who’s hardware it will run on.
canadianreader
macrumors 68000
Mistakes were made that led to this AI debacle. Lack of vision and leadership that shows in poor quality software releases, ugly iPhone 17 Pro and weird rebranding. The great designs, the innovative devices that we've been accustomed to all these years are fading away. Steve once said Microsoft lacked culture and taste, the quote currently applies to Apple.
