Complete and total failure on Apples part. This is jut an unbelievable failure to understand the market and now google is going to be a key piece of my phone. I dont want it and it's a mess.
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Apple's New Siri Will Be Powered By Google Gemini
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Apple losing face? I'd call it realism. Remember when Apple passed a deal with Microsoft, adopting Internet Explorer and so on, and later switched to Intel chips? I'm pretty sure that if Jobs somehow returned and looked at the state of Siri, he would think "Been there, done that". If Apple can do things better than its competitors, great, but if not (printers, cars, AI, etc.), there's no point in being stubborn.
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It's google....it will be off device just sending all your data and info to google which they will carefully respect.
Honestly I’ve gone back and forth on this but I kinda agree. Curious how he would have played it. Tim was quick to cut him after the Maps issue, but since then Apple has had worse releases (and non-releases/cancellations).
My understanding is he was a proponent of skeuomorphic design and Siri and both of those withered on the vine after he left.
From the article: "The AI model that Google is developing for Apple will run on Apple's Private Cloud Compute servers, so Google will not have access to Apple data."
Making a model is trivial now. xAI did it in like 6 months. Everyone understands LLMs now. Making a basic one for the purposes they need is well within their reach. They have probably choked it by insisting it is on device or something unnecessary.
Love it. Who is copying who these days? Display tech, folding phone, AI, etc. All kidding aside, you're gonna love Gemini. I left Apple for Google about 6 months ago after being with Apple for decades. Welcome to the much-better Goolge universe! Looking forward to seeing Apple's new crop of emojis their R&D staff have been working on for OS 27. Let Google and Samsung do the real R&D. Cheaper to licesne it rather than develop it.
I finally turned it of recently too. I was curious which features would disappear. Nothing I was using went away. Personally, I just want to read something written by a human and I can write my own emails and texts.
“The AI model that Google is developing for Apple will run on Apple's Private Cloud Compute servers, so Google will not have access to Apple data.”
What we need is an AI which reads people's comments before posting, and if they say something that demonstrates a failure to read the article properly, watermarks their post with "CAUTION: THIS POST WAS WRITTEN BY AN IDIOT".
I very much doubt German actually has insight into the financials here, but $1B/year seems pretty cheap?
yea, I just have not found anything that I consider useful, meaning helping me make certain things easier ...
like I tried priority notifications on but every single email I received was considered a priority ;(
and for imge "manipultion", I use Adobe LR/PS so don't need it
I've always been on the forefront of technology, but "AI" seems to be primarily a new way to search and "summarize" search results, I can do that myself. and yes, before I get hate, for some that is useful, for me, not so much.
I'll wait what Apple will offer and then decide if I want to use it or not, simple as that
I turned off WiFi on my LG OLED when the new Terms and Conditions said they could share any audio recordings from the remote. I don’t know what difference it would actually make, but it just feels creepy to me. I just want a TV to be a monitor anyway.
I trust Apple to keep everything secure, so no issues there.
But choosing Gemini over other models? If the model is the same that Google uses for summaries with Google search, it will be disappointing. ChatGPT and Claude (and even Grok) are all so much better. This is going to make Siri continue to be dumber than the competition, and erode Apple's reputation even further.
Phone hardware is becoming a commodity. Qualcomm CPUs are slower than Apple's M chips, but still good enough for any phone. Apple is basically asking for Samsung to overtake them.
Apple needs to stop making these bad decisions.
But choosing Gemini over other models? If the model is the same that Google uses for summaries with Google search, it will be disappointing. ChatGPT and Claude (and even Grok) are all so much better. This is going to make Siri continue to be dumber than the competition, and erode Apple's reputation even further.
Phone hardware is becoming a commodity. Qualcomm CPUs are slower than Apple's M chips, but still good enough for any phone. Apple is basically asking for Samsung to overtake them.
Apple needs to stop making these bad decisions.
I have a Google Pixel phone for work and an iPhone personally. The Google phone is just the worst. Ugly, complicated, seems like a copy of Apple design but an ugly version of it. I've tried to ask people that love Google to tell me how I can enjoy the device, but every time I use it, I just have deep regret. I have to stop mid-way, pull out my iPhone just to smile again. Please, I'm asking. Let us know why you like the Pixel phone. It would actually help me because I'm forced to have it and just don't understand why anyone would choose to purchase it on purpose.
I assume this information is coming from Apple, with Bloomberg reporting, but I don't have access to the article.
It's mind boggling that people take Apple's word at face value that Google won't have access to the data, but don't want to use Google services because they "know" Google uses people's data for revenue. Does everyone just blindly trust that no data will be sent to Google because Apple is saying it?
Additionally, without seeing the full agreement, and the phrase "Apple data", not "Apple users' data", might still mean that user data is completely up for grabs.
Hopefully someone with more information can chime in here; posting Google will not have access to Apple data does not inspire any confidence on my part. For those not concerned, feel free to use the Gemini AI feature. For those with concern, simply turn off AI. If they get rid of the option to turn this feature off, I'll go back to whatever the modern-day equivalent to a pager is, or maybe just a hotspot for my notebook.
It's mind boggling that people take Apple's word at face value that Google won't have access to the data, but don't want to use Google services because they "know" Google uses people's data for revenue. Does everyone just blindly trust that no data will be sent to Google because Apple is saying it?
Additionally, without seeing the full agreement, and the phrase "Apple data", not "Apple users' data", might still mean that user data is completely up for grabs.
Hopefully someone with more information can chime in here; posting Google will not have access to Apple data does not inspire any confidence on my part. For those not concerned, feel free to use the Gemini AI feature. For those with concern, simply turn off AI. If they get rid of the option to turn this feature off, I'll go back to whatever the modern-day equivalent to a pager is, or maybe just a hotspot for my notebook.
This makes a lot of sense for Apple. The LLM “engine” is reasonably commodity stuff by now and Apple can swap it out any time. No point getting bogged down with that when they can buy a customised version like this with no loss of privacy for Apple customers.
Getting a new Siri working the way a lot of us expect (integrated with our personal data across apps) is really a very very hard problem. They should be focussing everything on that integration part and make it something really special and helpful.
Getting a new Siri working the way a lot of us expect (integrated with our personal data across apps) is really a very very hard problem. They should be focussing everything on that integration part and make it something really special and helpful.
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Because Grok is controlled by Elon Musk. He has trained the AI with his personal views on many topics. No thanks.
If you ask elon, he'll say apple is being anti competitive and will sue in 3...2...1.
