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Wow, make any general conclusions lately? You sound like the customer Apple wants. I'd guess there are many more coffee shop use Macs than professional use Macs in service. Many professionals use *gasp* Windows machines. But if you never leave your garden, you wouldn't consider that.

Yep. Guess you never knew that self employed pros make up the vast majority of users here at macrumors. These are the ones who of course have to buy their own work devices because obviously they don’t have employers who do that for them already.
 
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Unless Apple adds a non-Mac "computer" back into it. Then it would creep closer back to the iMac because there was processor/memory/storage inside the box. Toss in a bundled $999 stand (way better ergonomics than the iMac) and easily could creep but up the iMac prices (and $2,500 ).
That would be interesting. A wireless display would be a game-changer. Still, charging $2500 for it would be overkill for consumers. Apple designs its products to be useful for customers and not to show off the technology.
 
Sure, if I need a cheap POS monitor to check 4K content with before rendering to make sure it looks decent on the low end, I’m sure it works fine. But not for everyday use, even productivity wise. If your eyes can deal with it, Godspeed.
At the end of the day however, you'll go home and watch NETFLIX on one of these POS 4K TVs for hours after slaving over mega buck monitors at work and never complain. I have had a 34" ROKU TV for 2 years and the secret is that ROKU simply provided me the HDMI interface and save me a bundle of money and I NEVER complain about the prices some in the industry ask. I leave that to some of the "experts" out there.
 
For all the people complaining here that the price is too high and all they want is a simple monitor : why don't you get a monitor from another brand ? Does it have to be branded "Apple" ? There are plenty of very good quality and well designed monitors out there from many brands, and for very reasonable prices ( even for Pro work).
And they will work with any of your Macs.
"Well designed monitors" is where you lost me. Most of them look like crap, plastic parts and awful/cheap designs. The only exception I have seen is the Matteview from Huawei.
 
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lmao imagine being able to spend a few thousand on a monitor and thinking the current display is too expensive and that this is good news because it’s only $2500. If you have that kind of money to spend on a monitor you can probably afford the $5000 one.
Well, I think I paid $2.5k for my 30" Apple Cinema Display back in 2006. I still use it every day and it's solid. So I believe it was a good deal due to the quality and reliability through more than 16 years.
 
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I just want a 32 inch iMac Pro in the form factor of the XDR display. If they have to lower the monitor specs some, that's fine. I may even be willing to pay 5,000 USD for that but I want a lot of I/O and a solid VESA mount.
 
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I disagree. Apple traditionally tends to stay away from markets that are well served by other brands, and this is one of them ( the lower-end, not the high-end). There are quite a few good looking monitors, that look almost like a copy of a flatter iMac.
Here is an example, that looks exactly like something Apple would have designed :
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BenQ do amazing displays. I’ve got a PD2725U. Love it.
 
I'm happy to be using a 2018 Mac mini as my main home computer. It really is excellent. But finding a good and cheap monitor was a pain and don't think I've been successful yet. I had an old monitor when I got the Mini (also had keyboard and trackpad), so it made set up initially very cheap. But that monitor occasionally didn't work. So bought an HP monitor. It also doesn't always respond to the mini waking up. I end up having to hard reboot the mini with the power button. That always works. But this $125 monitor is only 1920x1080 and I continue to find myself working from home on this device every day. I second guess that I should just have bought an M1 iMac when they came out. I'd have a better computer and a vastly better display.

A $2,500 display is not a solution for me. So do I just muddle through, do I try to find a 24 inch 4K screen, do I just get an iMac (I've had plenty of iMacs over the years)?

Side note, Santa gave me an iPad Pro this year, so the M1 processor in it is now the most powerful piece of computing power in my life. And the display is the best display. This HP display that I'm typing on right now is certainly looking a bit drab by comparison.
 
Guessing will be priced around $999 ~ $1499, built in stand like the current M1 iMac, space grey, and maybe a silver model. Possibly 27~32-inch. Will look just like the current M1 iMac without the chin. Have a Sharp or Samsung display panel. Released sometime between February ~ April.
 
Guessing will be priced around $999 ~ $1499, built in stand like the current M1 iMac, space grey, and maybe a silver model. Possibly 27~32-inch. Will look just like the current M1 iMac without the chin. Have a Sharp or Samsung display panel. Released sometime between February ~ April.
they already had a likely supply chain leak from LG. and no way it's less than $1499. (I'm guessing $2000 at least, and think MG is probably right with it being closer to $2500.).
 
That's absolutely crazy and they will sell next to none if that's the price.. I just got a refurbished 21.5 inch LG 4K Retina Display for $400. Works perfectly and it's the same one used in the Retina iMac 21.5 inch. The image quality is excellent and it's super easy to set up. I have no idea why someone would pay $2500 for a monitor when you can get one this good for less than $500. They've also got a 27-inch 5K one for a few hundred bucks more.
 


Apple's rumored new consumer-oriented standalone monitor could appear this year and come in at around the $2,500 price mark, based on comments made by Bloomberg's Mark Gurman.

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Writing in his first "Power On" newsletter of 2022, Gurman says the new monitor is "destined to be about half the price of the Pro Display XDR," which he's "hoping" launches sometime this year.
Apple is believed to be developing a lower-priced external monitor that would be sold alongside its high-end Pro Display XDR, which costs $4,999 before factoring in the optional $999 stand.

Taking that into consideration, Gurman's wording suggests he's confident the new display will be somewhere around the $2,500 price mark, although he appears to be less bullish about it being released this year.

Gurman first reported on Apple's development of a standalone display in January 2021, and suggested it will be a consumer-oriented successor to Apple's previous Thunderbolt Display, which was introduced in 2011 for $999 and discontinued in 2016.

In the December edition of his newsletter, Gurman used his Q&A section to double down on his belief that Apple is readying the new display, predicting it would be a "hot seller for those looking to add a larger screen to their new MacBook Pro without spending the equivalent of a luxury car down payment on the Pro Display XDR."

In related rumors, Twitter-based leaker @dylandkt last month claimed LG is developing three new standalone displays that may end up being for Apple, including one based on the current 24-inch iMac, one based on the upcoming 27-inch iMac, and a 32-inch model that may be a new Pro Display XDR with an Apple silicon chip.

In Gurman's latest newsletter, the well-connected journalist also covered his other expectations for new upcoming Apple products in the year ahead, which we've summarized separately.

Article Link: Apple's New Standalone Monitor Could Be Around Half the Price of the Pro Display XDR
If it's $2,500 I don't see how that's a good successor to the $1000 Apple Thunderbolt Display. If a new iMac Pro costs $3000, do you really expect someone to shell out $2500 more for a matching 2nd display? As the LG Ultrafine 5K monitor was $1400, I can see $1500, but not $2500, sorry.
 
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Wow, hundreds of comments that all say the same thing: "I am not a content creator. I am a content consumer and do not need or want to spend $$ on a monitor that is color accurate."

To all those people, Apple says, "We choose not to compete with Dell or Samsung."
 
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Wow, hundreds of comments that all say the same thing: "I am not a content creator. I am a content consumer and do not need or want to spend $$ on a monitor that is color accurate."

To all those people, Apple says, "We choose not to compete with Dell or Samsung."

Nonsense. I’m a professional software developer. Text that’s sharp and pleasing to the eyes matters to me. Four figures for a display is unacceptable.
 
At the end of the day however, you'll go home and watch NETFLIX on one of these POS 4K TVs for hours after slaving over mega buck monitors at work and never complain. I have had a 34" ROKU TV for 2 years and the secret is that ROKU simply provided me the HDMI interface and save me a bundle of money and I NEVER complain about the prices some in the industry ask. I leave that to some of the "experts" out there.
Why not simplify the equation? Buy your computer for what it produces but buy your display for what it produces based on your satisfaction. If this is too hard, buy an iMac and be happy. Apple, like most, does NOT design/produce display devices nor does LG design/produce compute devices (they simply select their suppliers). Buy your products based on how well they do their job for YOU. If you are not satisfied with the job Apple does, select a display from how well a manufacturer excels in their market space based upon value/price you want and go for it. Separating the technologies is important if you want the best or simply get new eyes. Job titles do not equate to real needs.
 
If it's $2,500 I don't see how that's a good successor to the $1000 Apple Thunderbolt Display....
This is NOT a successor to the $1000 Apple Thunderbolt Display. It is a specialized product intended for professionals working in the visual arts.

For example, a graphic artist is designing a new cereal box for corn flakes. She chooses specif shade of red for the text, and she wants the color on her display to EXACTLY match the ink die the printing press will apply to the cardboard box. I mean "exactly" where a trained graphic professional holds the two side by side and can't detect a difference.

This same artist also uses an expensive color printer that is calibrated so that it looks like the final product. These people work in a calibrated workflow so as not to be surprised be the final result.

Even the low-end of the entertainment industry cares a lot about color. The classic example is the wedding photographer who worries a lot that the color in his prints EXACTLY matches the color of the brides white dress. It is hard to get shades of white to exactly match and a cheap monitor does not help. Many amateur photographers care too. Me? I have a cheap Dell 4K monitor and do a rough calibration. I don't do this for a living.

The people who care the most are "color graders" who adjust color in motion pictures so that a screen that is edits from many "takes" when cut togetehr the skin color of the actors does not shift with every cut. These people have good eyes but need a good monitor.

Filmmakers and photographers also care a lot about exact color. Many of these professionals will use a "calorimeter" sensor that attaches to the monitor with suction cups to measure the color. Few consumers care enough to bother with this.

Yes if all you do is watch the final product you don't need high-end equipment.
 
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they already had a likely supply chain leak from LG. and no way it's less than $1499. (I'm guessing $2000 at least, and think MG is probably right with it being closer to $2500.).

I dont see a $2500 "prosumer" display succeeding or put to market for these Apple silicon devices. and I doubt it will be solely LG panels either.
 
Wow, hundreds of comments that all say the same thing: "I am not a content creator. I am a content consumer and do not need or want to spend $$ on a monitor that is color accurate."

To all those people, Apple says, "We choose not to compete with Dell or Samsung."

Why not simplify the equation? Buy your computer for what it produces but buy your display for what it produces based on your satisfaction. If this is too hard, buy an iMac and be happy. Apple, like most, does NOT design/produce display devices nor does LG design/produce compute devices (they simply select their suppliers). Buy your products based on how well they do their job for YOU. If you are not satisfied with the job Apple does, select a display from how well a manufacturer excels in their market space based upon value/price you want and go for it. Separating the technologies is important if you want the best or simply get new eyes. Job titles do not equate to real needs.

This is NOT a successor to the $1000 Apple Thunderbolt Display. It is a specialized product intended for professionals working in the visual arts.

For example, a graphic artist is designing a new cereal box for corn flakes. She chooses specif shade of red for the text, and she wants the color on her display to EXACTLY match the ink die the printing press will apply to the cardboard box. I mean "exactly" where a trained graphic professional holds the two side by side and can't detect a difference.

This same artist also uses an expensive color printer that is calibrated so that it looks like the final product. These people work in a calibrated workflow so as not to be surprised be the final result.

Even the low-end of the entertainment industry cares a lot about color. The classic example is the wedding photographer who worries a lot that the color in his prints EXACTLY matches the color of the brides white dress. It is hard to get shades of white to exactly match and a cheap monitor does not help. Many amateur photographers care too. Me? I have a cheap Dell 4K monitor and do a rough calibration. I don't do this for a living.

The people who care the most are "color graders" who adjust color in motion pictures so that a screen that is edits from many "takes" when cut togetehr the skin color of the actors does not shift with every cut. These people have good eyes but need a good monitor.

Filmmakers and photographers also care a lot about exact color. Many of these professionals will use a "calorimeter" sensor that attaches to the monitor with suction cups to measure the color. Few consumers care enough to bother with this.

Yes if all you do is watch the final product you don't need high-end equipment.
There is a difference here, subtle as it may be.

The posts in this thread, in general, including mine, are not complaining about the price of this monitor. And it is simply because there is no monitor at all. It is just a rumor.

What I am saying (and many other members are saying as well) is that it does not make business sense for Apple to release a $2500 monitor aimed at the consumer market. The fact that I mention that I, being a consumer, will not buy a $2500 monitor, is only meant to illustrate how much nonsense it would be for Apple to release such a product for consumers.

We are discussing business strategy here, not released products.
 
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Wow, hundreds of comments that all say the same thing: "I am not a content creator. I am a content consumer and do not need or want to spend $$ on a monitor that is color accurate."

To all those people, Apple says, "We choose not to compete with Dell or Samsung."
Because (and next time PAY ATTENTION) this was put forth as a *consumer* product, not a pro product.
 
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the reality is you're supposed to just buy an iMac if you need an Apple external monitor.
 
So much whining about the price... if you haven't realized by now Apple doesn't do cheap commodity things, the only thing they do even close to that is HomePod mini but then you could by 3 echo dots for one of those.
 
I'm going to buy this monitor to flex in Starbucks. I hope it comes in Gold for extra flex.
 
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