Down is down. I really love how xiaomi puts Apple to shame with better specs, almost identical design and an unheard of price
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Down is down. I really love how xiaomi puts Apple to shame with better specs, almost identical design and an unheard of price
Do you hope your fake data can look credible? And now trying to peddle Xiami in just to change argument? Just sad.
There's just no arguing with you if you only want to see what you want to see. So why bother for me.
I hope you're right about Q1 2017. I only doubt it. Seeing the iPhone 7 and seeing what the competition is bringing. You talk about pend up demand... In my workforce I see switchers. But time will tell and I really hope you're right.
https://www.engadget.com/2016/07/27/xiaomi-mi-notebook-air-laptop-china/
The 24% comes from the front page thread graphic.....
Up 30% QoQ but still down 24% YoY
https://www.macrumors.com/2016/08/10/mac-notebook-sales-2q16-trendforce/
If Xiaomi`s notebooks are built like their phone`s they won't be a bad product by any means. Xiaomi is now very close to the iPhone`s level of quality a generation or two behind at very most.
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Yep and by the speed they seem to innovate it won't take long. We all benefit because sooner or later the prices of our misformed fruit has to come down
They are, that's why Mac sales are down YoY, and the market is still flooded with drastically price-reduced 2015 Macbooks almost 6 months after production most likely ended.Wait I thought MacBooks were silly over priced netbooks with only one port that nobody would buy
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Yep and by the speed they seem to innovate it won't take long. We all benefit because sooner or later the prices of our misformed fruit has to come down
I spend a good deal of time in China, so get to see much of the tech that is internalised, some brands are really stepping up. On the other hand Apple only seems solely focused on extracting as much $$$$ from it`s customers with ever diminishing returns.
Personally I feel that Apple`s greed will be it`s downfall as Apple is unlikely to reduce it`s price point even in the face of strong competition, even better product. I also tend to agree that the innovation offered by theses companies is becoming ever more significant.
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Exactly what I'm thinking. Name one other tech company with products that takes that long to get an overhaul as Apple. 2015 my eyes opened about Apple. 2016 seems Apple fatigue hit me
It's a nice machine with a terrible keyboard, for me. Having typed for over a decade on PowerBooks and MacBooks, this keyboard is a real let-down every time I use this device.
Takes some getting used to. I like the butterfly mechanism ensuring the keys go straight down and aren't all wobbly and squishy, but a little more travel would be ideal (something like the Magic Keyboard would be a decent compromise). But, as an ultra-portable machine, I imagine the thinness and lightness that shallow keyboard allows is worth the trade off. It still beats using that ungainly Smart Keyboard on an iPad Pro in my eyes.
In the month or so I spent with one before taking it back for being generally underpowered and frustrated by the single USB/Charging port, the keyboard really didn't bother me as much as I thought it would. I really have no gripes at all in that department, although reports of keys sticking for no reason after a couple months worth of use has me concerned, especially if reports are accurate about this being the direction Apple went with the keyboard for the MBP refresh.
What number are you even looking at? Because it's definitely not the 1H2016 YoY number.
The Apple MacBook confuses me. Indeed, with it's specs it is best suited to business use or students, but business isn't buying Apple computers in general terms, and students are usually looking for a lower priced computer. I simply don't see who this product is designed for.
I have used the Retina MacBook in a business role for over a year. To date I have only seen one other employed in the professional environment. Fundamentally the rMB is overpriced for it`s capabilities, nor is it a solution for all, as it's not well balanced. It does however excel in one aspect above all, portability, equally there are now more capable Windows based systems at lower price points.
For 2016 Apple should have further improved the spec`s or reduced the price. The rMB is a capable notebook as long as you clearly understand your needs and it's limitations. If you don't it may well rapidly become an exercise in frustration. Right now I see it selling as it`s the only Mac portable that`s not "older than trees". It has an edge design wise and the Apple "kudos" that some buy into. Ultimately it would make much more sense with a starting price same as the current Air.
Apple also need to work on their quality with the rMB, with many observations across the forum of issues with the keyboard & battery. My own 2015 1.2 rMB is also now demonstrating a weaker battery capacity in comparison to my older rMBP`s, and although I have had no issue with the keyboards operation, it does however show far more wear than it`s much older counterparts, rather taking the premium edge off the notebook.
Would I buy another? Only if Apple up`s their game, as right now there are better comparable Windows based systems with far greater utility, as for my rMB it`s replacement is already on the desk, nor is it a Mac and that' on Apple...
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What's "1H2016"?
Q3 2016 mac shipments 4.25M
Q3 2015 mac shipments 4.8M
http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/apple/apple-q3-2016-financial-results-iphone-mac-sales-down-3581769/
I've been using my rev.1 rMB for business since April. I got it for traveling in Japan, loved it and have used it ever since for work. It's so light and thin I often have to check to see if I remembered to put it in my carry bag or not!
I agree that the price should be lowered. I guess, as with the MacBook Air, that as the R&D is paid off that will happen. I got mine as a refurb when the rev2 came out, but it was factory sealed. That was closer to the price I think it should be.
Performance wise it's been great. Handles everything I need for work without any noticeable lag. Office suite, email and web browsing, and it's surprisingly good at photoshop and indesign tasks.
The lack of ports hasn't been an issue. All my work data is on a server accessed via wifi. I prefer the keyboard on the MB more than my MBP.
The only thing I'd change on the machine is the lower the price by 20-25% and watch it fly out the door.
Thats the same link I've posted to you before, headline:
Apple Q3 2016 financial results | Apple earnings report: iPhone and Mac sales fall, overall revenue down, but Tim Cook talks up 'encouraging signs'
It's down compared to the year ago quarter as Q4 2016 will be also. Your prediction about pend up demand was/is right. But lot's of people won't wait to 2017 buying the 'superlative iPhone 8' those phones are already on the market in the form of Galaxy S7 edge and note 7. So my prediction will be that the to be introduced iPhone 7 won't be a home run and the to be introduced new Macs neither because they already bring little to their overall profits. I think whats happening in China today will spread out to other countries soon. China is the center of tech and Apple can't compete with the likes as Huawei, Xiaomi, Oppo and many more.
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I've marked it in red for you! Hope you can see red...
This sentence speaks volumes.
Looking at the reported numbers that Apple has filed there is indeed a drop YOY. But this drop is from 4.8 millions units to 4.25 millions, and it's nowhere near 23.5%.
That's hard data reported to the SEC, not some study from third party companies listing Samsung et al among their customers.
Of course your post has been filed for copious future reference, after Q1 earnings call. That's going to be a very long and entertaining post.
This all depends on where you work. At my office, there are many 15-inch MacBook Pros but travelers often request the 12-inch MacBook. As for price, I did say that I think the current MacBook is a little pricey, but if you look back 10 years when the original MacBook launched it was $1,099 so I don't think the price point is that far off for students since the original MacBook was a gigantic hit with that segment.
Don't get me wrong the rMB is one best innovations Apple has released in many a year, equally the competition has not only caught up, they have exceeded what Apple offers by a significant margin.
Apple needs to stop focusing on numbers. With the right product you have no concern for the former, Apple seems to have lost or is disregarding this concept. Current Mac lineup very much exemplifies, being at best lacklustre. In business we need product that delvers not entertains...
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