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Apple's October 19th Media Event
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new powerbooks
Thinking about this powerbook situation and typical Apple marketing and engineering procedures, here is what I predict:
Option 1) - Use the old 2002 dual Powermac dual CPU board
They will take the old G4 Powermac dual cpu board (QuickSilver?) and remove the L3 cache and PCI slots and put in two new 1.8 GHZ 7448 G4s. If this happens I do not think they will put the HD screen on, but will put the dual-layer Superdrive in.
The reason I think they will do this is basically Apple has so many G4 based boards out (ibook, powerbook, emac, mac mini, iMac (lamp) and many iterations of the PowerMac) that this would be easy to do and provide the performance that is good enough until the Intel switch.
If they can take the G4 technology and shrink it down to the mac mini size of 6"x6" then they can take the last powermac G4 model take it from 1.42 GHZ to 1.8GHZ by dropping in the new 7448 chips..
Option #2 - G5 Powerbook
IBM has announced last summer that there are power scaling G5 chips that would work in a laptop. I don't see why apple could not use on of these and come out with a G5 1.6 Powerbook and possibly G5 1.8 GHZ.
I doubt that we will see the Mobility 9800 GPU added because there is probably no performance gain. This is because on the old powermac AGP 4X video bus, there is not any gain by adding the high end cards.
DDR2 memory - Nah.. The G4 technology has been ripping us off . DDR is not any faster than old PC-133 SDRAM with the G4. See barefeats: http://www.barefeats.com/pmddr.html So, if they do add it, its just for marketing and not going to change anything.
Well enjoy the show in 10 mins. My friend wants to have lunch with me so i will miss the initial announcement but will watch the video sream later (hopefully).. You heard it here first.
-AppleJP
Thinking about this powerbook situation and typical Apple marketing and engineering procedures, here is what I predict:
Option 1) - Use the old 2002 dual Powermac dual CPU board
They will take the old G4 Powermac dual cpu board (QuickSilver?) and remove the L3 cache and PCI slots and put in two new 1.8 GHZ 7448 G4s. If this happens I do not think they will put the HD screen on, but will put the dual-layer Superdrive in.
The reason I think they will do this is basically Apple has so many G4 based boards out (ibook, powerbook, emac, mac mini, iMac (lamp) and many iterations of the PowerMac) that this would be easy to do and provide the performance that is good enough until the Intel switch.
If they can take the G4 technology and shrink it down to the mac mini size of 6"x6" then they can take the last powermac G4 model take it from 1.42 GHZ to 1.8GHZ by dropping in the new 7448 chips..
Option #2 - G5 Powerbook
IBM has announced last summer that there are power scaling G5 chips that would work in a laptop. I don't see why apple could not use on of these and come out with a G5 1.6 Powerbook and possibly G5 1.8 GHZ.
I doubt that we will see the Mobility 9800 GPU added because there is probably no performance gain. This is because on the old powermac AGP 4X video bus, there is not any gain by adding the high end cards.
DDR2 memory - Nah.. The G4 technology has been ripping us off . DDR is not any faster than old PC-133 SDRAM with the G4. See barefeats: http://www.barefeats.com/pmddr.html So, if they do add it, its just for marketing and not going to change anything.
Well enjoy the show in 10 mins. My friend wants to have lunch with me so i will miss the initial announcement but will watch the video sream later (hopefully).. You heard it here first.
-AppleJP
Kiscokid said:Big Question.....If they upgrade powerbooks then what happens to poor sods like me who have a powerbook on order awaiting shipping....I guess I can cancel the order??
If they haven't already dispatched then you will get the latest, at least thats what Apple told me yesterday.
I set my computer clock and all the clocks in my house to NYC time for today.
[I am in the UK]
[London]
Jesus
[I am in the UK]
[London]
Jesus
I can't be disappointed by ANYTHING Pro they announce today. I still have a 350 MHz Blue and White G3 tower, and a 500 MHz G4 TiBook. Would take the announcement of a 5300ce and a Quadra to disppoint me.Southernboy said:Prepare to be disappointed
Always happens doesn't it
I can't be disappointed by ANYTHING Pro they announce today. I still have a 350 MHz Blue and White G3 tower, and a 500 MHz G4 TiBook. Would take the announcement of a 5300ce and a Quadra to disppoint me.Southernboy said:Prepare to be disappointed
Always happens doesn't it
Test of DualCore 2.3 GHz
A test of the new Dual Core 2.0 and 2,3 GHz G5 (not Quad) can be found here: http://www.99mac.se/forum/showthread.php?t=87243 (In Swedish). The conclusion is that the single 2.3 GHz Dual Core beats a Dual 2.5 GHz Single Core
2.3 Dualcore: 108,7
2.0 Dualcore: 103,1
2.5 Dual: 105,9
A test of the new Dual Core 2.0 and 2,3 GHz G5 (not Quad) can be found here: http://www.99mac.se/forum/showthread.php?t=87243 (In Swedish). The conclusion is that the single 2.3 GHz Dual Core beats a Dual 2.5 GHz Single Core
2.3 Dualcore: 108,7
2.0 Dualcore: 103,1
2.5 Dual: 105,9
From Apple's Powermac product page:
How much reality can you handle? Try adding up to eight all-digital Apple Cinema Displays to your Power Mac G5 and enjoy a veritable dreamscape of stunning visuals
droooooooooooool...
EDIT: Here's the fine print:
Eight 20-inch or 23-inch Apple Cinema Displays can be connected to the Power Mac G5 using four NVIDIA GeForce 6600 graphics cards.
Still AWESOME!
How much reality can you handle? Try adding up to eight all-digital Apple Cinema Displays to your Power Mac G5 and enjoy a veritable dreamscape of stunning visuals
droooooooooooool...EDIT: Here's the fine print:
Eight 20-inch or 23-inch Apple Cinema Displays can be connected to the Power Mac G5 using four NVIDIA GeForce 6600 graphics cards.
Still AWESOME!
Anybody else think the Powerbook updates were pretty lame? Are these the Powerbooks supposed to last us till Intel chips in Q3 '06?
Personally am very disappointed the 20" display price didn't come down. I'm going to have to go and buy a Dell display now...
Personally am very disappointed the 20" display price didn't come down. I'm going to have to go and buy a Dell display now...
johan_tanying said:
That is interesting. I would have thought the old models would be faster because the two cores are sharing a bus in the new ones. I guess they work faster together or something, which makes up for any bus contention issue? Or do I just not get how it is set up? Or is the overall chipset improved that much more?
Photorun said:
I guess that makes my coworker also "luckiest man on the planet". As well as the consultants who give their XP-laptops hell. Most of them never shut down their laptops, they just hibernate them.
My home PC with W2K is sometimes up & running for weeks at end with no problems. I still hate Windows (both XP and W2K), but that doesn't mean that I have to make some ******** claims about them. Yes, they are crap, but they are pretty stable crap.
Notes is pretty humungous piece of application. And what are you saying? That I don't qualify since I run "normal" apps, instead of compiling and rendering 24/7? Then I guess most Mac users disaualify as well, since most of them run just iApps, Mail and Safari.
As it happens, I hate Microsoft and just about everything they represent. I do occasionally use their products, but not by choice. If Microsoft went bankrupt tomorrow, I would propably do a little dance of joy.
But apparently you think that since the XP I use every day is more or less rock-solid, I MUST be Microsoft's bitch? Windows CAN'T be stable, and anyone who claims that it is, is obviously on Microsoft payroll or some other crap like that? Hello McFly?!?!?!
Ummm, I'm here because I'm interested in Apple and their products? Because I like to find out what cool things I could do with my Mac Mini (which, BTW, is my primary computer at home, running OS X)? Because I want to know what my future Mac-purchases might look like? Because my mp3-player of choice is iPod, and I want to know what future holds for it?
Or are you saying that since I think that W2K and XP are pretty stable, I should not be in MacRumors? That this place is reserved for people who think that modern-day MS-OS'es are about as stable as Windows ME was? Anyone who disagrees with that ASSumption should be cast out as a heretic?
Hey, maybe MacRumors should put a huge banner in their front-page saying "This website is only meant for participants of the Apple circle-jerk! All comments disputing the instability of Windows are strictly forbidden! Here, have some Kool-Aid"?