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So Apple is attemtping to avoid $14-15 billion taxes it owes to the EU because it claims that it plans to use the money to creater more jobs and invest in research and development. And here is what we got for it:
 

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Apple's new iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus ship without a headphone jack, requiring customers to use either Bluetooth or Lightning-equipped headphones. Many customers who routinely charge their iPhones while also listening to music have been questioning whether that usage scenario will possible sans headphone jack, and as it turns out, Apple has a solution.

In an email to a customer, Apple SVP of marketing Phil Schiller says that while he prefers to use the wireless AirPods to listen to music, customers who want to listen to wired headphones while charging an iPhone 7 can use the Apple Lightning Dock, which has a built-in headphone jack.

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Priced at $49 and available in colors to match each of the iPhones, the Lightning dock has both a USB input and a 3.5mm headphone jack built in, making it perfect for customers who want to charge and listen to music at the same time. Unfortunately, it's an expensive solution compared to former method of using 3.5mm EarPods and a Lightning cable, which came free with the iPhone. Belkin also just announced a $40 Lightning Audio + Charge RockStar adapter designed to let users listen to Lightning headphones while charging, but it's both bulky and pricy.

To ease the transition away from the 3.5mm headphone jack, Apple is providing customers with both a Lightning to 3.5mm adapter and a set of EarPods with a Lightning connector. Of course, when using these accessories, charging is not possible at the same time.

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Apple's ultimate goal seems to be to transition customers to wireless headphones like its recently announced AirPods. While on stage at yesterday's event, Schiller explained that one of the reasons why Apple moved away from the headphone jack was to push wireless technology forward. The AirPods, which have been in development since the Apple Watch was conceived, feature a proprietary wireless W1 chip and up to 24 hours of battery life implemented through a charging case.

AirPods, priced at $159 and similar in design to EarPods, are entirely wireless with no cord connecting the two earpieces and feature technology like gesture recognition, voice isolation, and more. AirPods have been receiving largely favorable reviews, but $159 is a lot to pay for the ideal iPhone 7 music experience.

airpods-2-800x436.jpg

Apple executives have explained that the removal of the headphone jack took a lot of "courage," but was necessary to free up valuable space and improve technology in the iPhone 7 and future iPhones.

(Thanks, Zaheen!)

Article Link: Apple's Phil Schiller Recommends Lightning Dock for Charging an iPhone 7 While Listening to Music



Apple's new iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus ship without a headphone jack, requiring customers to use either Bluetooth or Lightning-equipped headphones. Many customers who routinely charge their iPhones while also listening to music have been questioning whether that usage scenario will possible sans headphone jack, and as it turns out, Apple has a solution.

In an email to a customer, Apple SVP of marketing Phil Schiller says that while he prefers to use the wireless AirPods to listen to music, customers who want to listen to wired headphones while charging an iPhone 7 can use the Apple Lightning Dock, which has a built-in headphone jack.

philschilleremail.jpg

Priced at $49 and available in colors to match each of the iPhones, the Lightning dock has both a USB input and a 3.5mm headphone jack built in, making it perfect for customers who want to charge and listen to music at the same time. Unfortunately, it's an expensive solution compared to former method of using 3.5mm EarPods and a Lightning cable, which came free with the iPhone. Belkin also just announced a $40 Lightning Audio + Charge RockStar adapter designed to let users listen to Lightning headphones while charging, but it's both bulky and pricy.

To ease the transition away from the 3.5mm headphone jack, Apple is providing customers with both a Lightning to 3.5mm adapter and a set of EarPods with a Lightning connector. Of course, when using these accessories, charging is not possible at the same time.

iphonelightningdock-800x363.jpg

Apple's ultimate goal seems to be to transition customers to wireless headphones like its recently announced AirPods. While on stage at yesterday's event, Schiller explained that one of the reasons why Apple moved away from the headphone jack was to push wireless technology forward. The AirPods, which have been in development since the Apple Watch was conceived, feature a proprietary wireless W1 chip and up to 24 hours of battery life implemented through a charging case.

AirPods, priced at $159 and similar in design to EarPods, are entirely wireless with no cord connecting the two earpieces and feature technology like gesture recognition, voice isolation, and more. AirPods have been receiving largely favorable reviews, but $159 is a lot to pay for the ideal iPhone 7 music experience.

airpods-2-800x436.jpg

Apple executives have explained that the removal of the headphone jack took a lot of "courage," but was necessary to free up valuable space and improve technology in the iPhone 7 and future iPhones.

(Thanks, Zaheen!)

Article Link: Apple's Phil Schiller Recommends Lightning Dock for Charging an iPhone 7 While Listening to Music
 
the real tragic thing is i'm locked into the ecosystem so i'm stuck with the 6 for a while.
Also, i'm frowning to much :D
 
Was this sarcasm? At an airport/on a long flight? On a long drive if your vehicle lacks bluetooth or you want better sound quality? In my case, there are many scenarios.

I also can't imagine a situation where I need to do both.

I see so many people mentioning using headphones in the car. I've never in my whole life seen a single person using headphones in a car. In fact, in many states - ITS ILLEGAL
http://drivinglaws.aaa.com/tag/headsets/

On a long flight?? I've flown 4 times in August and non of my flights had chargers for my phone. I could have used my computer to charge, but then I could listen to music on my computer instead.
 
will this silence the whining? no. of course not. there must always be whining.

there was also a BT clip posted to MR not long ago that had a 3.5mm jack in it, i believe. simple solution for older cars (or a replacement head unit, of course).



Apple's new iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus ship without a headphone jack, requiring customers to use either Bluetooth or Lightning-equipped headphones. Many customers who routinely charge their iPhones while also listening to music have been questioning whether that usage scenario will possible sans headphone jack, and as it turns out, Apple has a solution.

In an email to a customer, Apple SVP of marketing Phil Schiller says that while he prefers to use the wireless AirPods to listen to music, customers who want to listen to wired headphones while charging an iPhone 7 can use the Apple Lightning Dock, which has a built-in headphone jack.

philschilleremail.jpg

Priced at $49 and available in colors to match each of the iPhones, the Lightning dock has both a USB input and a 3.5mm headphone jack built in, making it perfect for customers who want to charge and listen to music at the same time. Unfortunately, it's an expensive solution compared to former method of using 3.5mm EarPods and a Lightning cable, which came free with the iPhone. Belkin also just announced a $40 Lightning Audio + Charge RockStar adapter designed to let users listen to Lightning headphones while charging, but it's both bulky and pricy.

To ease the transition away from the 3.5mm headphone jack, Apple is providing customers with both a Lightning to 3.5mm adapter and a set of EarPods with a Lightning connector. Of course, when using these accessories, charging is not possible at the same time.

iphonelightningdock-800x363.jpg

Apple's ultimate goal seems to be to transition customers to wireless headphones like its recently announced AirPods. While on stage at yesterday's event, Schiller explained that one of the reasons why Apple moved away from the headphone jack was to push wireless technology forward. The AirPods, which have been in development since the Apple Watch was conceived, feature a proprietary wireless W1 chip and up to 24 hours of battery life implemented through a charging case.

AirPods, priced at $159 and similar in design to EarPods, are entirely wireless with no cord connecting the two earpieces and feature technology like gesture recognition, voice isolation, and more. AirPods have been receiving largely favorable reviews, but $159 is a lot to pay for the ideal iPhone 7 music experience.

airpods-2-800x436.jpg

Apple executives have explained that the removal of the headphone jack took a lot of "courage," but was necessary to free up valuable space and improve technology in the iPhone 7 and future iPhones.

(Thanks, Zaheen!)

Article Link: Apple's Phil Schiller Recommends Lightning Dock for Charging an iPhone 7 While Listening to Music
 
A lot of pissed off people that don't even own the device ITT.

If you can't live without charging and using connected headphones at the same time, then don't buy it. Move on. Quit wasting your time crying about it.
Exactly! Let the market tell Apple they made a mistake. Also, stop acting like giving Apple more money is your only alternative. Plenty of other companies are selling Bluetooth headphones.

...and adapters.
...and battery packs with built-in DAC and mini-headphone jack
...and...
...and...

Apple just created a niche market, which will be filled in short order.
 
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I bought my first Bluetooth headphones two months ago. Haven't looked back. Cables feel all wrong now.

I like good audio, and I can't hear any difference in quality.
You may not be able to, but many, many can.
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Lucky me I can't imagine an scenario where I would need to charge the phone and listen to music with headphones at the same time.
You obviously never take long haul flights.
 
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Damn. I didn't think people would be this annoyed considering this was pretty much certain months ago with the leaks.

I understand that people are p'd off and I do not know how I feel about it at the moment as I want to see how it is first and how I find my experience with just using the lighting port only.

Will this be another one of those things that everyone gets over after a while? We will have to wait and see.
 
Threads like this will seem so naive in a few years time - remember the floppy drive and serial ports going for good when they launched the first iMac? Anyone want those back on a computer today? Everyone hates change - humans are hard wired that way. All the whiners should go back to a Walkman and just don't buy an iPhone - end of problem. I'm bored with all this.....
 
It seems Apple thinks only headlphones are used to plug into the headphone jack. I, like many other Periscopers use that plug for their Lav mic and the Lightning plug to attach their external battery.

I was going to get a 7+ but guess I'll get a 6s+ instead.

This change would perhaps be easier to accept if we were given a reason for it's removal. Some other gain? Or ddid I miss that explanation?
 
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A great example is what Microsoft did with Windows and the start button. They were stubborn about it for years. Now it's back, and guess what? Windows 10 is fantastic with it.

I've actually sort of moved over to Windows (I use a few apps that require it)
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Threads like this will seem so naive in a few years time - .

I don't think so. But i'm not future man either.
 
A more accurate headline would have been:
"Apple's answer to charging iPhone while listening to wired headphones really isn't an answer".
 
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Apple Fan, for decades, here. Apple is currently in profit mode. They don't care about us. They care about total global sales.

This statement confuses me, particularly attached to this article/post. If Apple only really cares about sales wouldn't they just keep the headphone jack? It seems like a big gamble to make otherwise. Potentially turning away new less tech savvy customers or even causing some to not upgrade to the newest iPhone just yet. For what? To enter the wireless headphone and adapter market? A market that is saturated already with hundreds of different brands. I can assure you the vast majority of wireless headphone purchases won't be for the new Airpods. They'll be for cheap bluetooth headphones off the rack at Target. The vast majority of adapter purchases won't be Apple adapters, they'll be 3rd party cheap adapters from Amazon or Monoprice. Most people do not buy Apple accessories, they consider them too expensive. I really do think Apple wants to move to a wireless future, they already showed this with the new Macbook. They want to make it happen.
 
Damn. I didn't think people would be this annoyed considering this was pretty much certain months ago with the leaks.

I understand that people are p'd off and I do not know how I feel about it at the moment as I want to see how it is first and how I find my experience with just using the lighting port only.

Will this be another one of those things that everyone gets over after a while? We will have to wait and see.
Not even the leaks regarding protruding cameras, obvious antenna lines, and the removal of the jack, could prime customers. The leaking failed this time spectacularly, it didn't give a soft impact, it's just caused more outrage and confirmation customers won't upgrade this cycle. Shareholders buckle up, this could get ultra bumpy.
 
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Apple is NOT pushing the industry forward here.

Digital media is superior to CDs. CDs were superior to tape cassettes. USB was/is superior to everything being a proprietary port.

The lightning cable is NOT superior to audio jacks!

I thought CD's were digital media.
 
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I don't feel anything towards Apple or their devices anymore. And it's a sad feeling to be honest.

Me too. Even sadder because those accusing us of whining should realise it's because we believed in the company, spent $$$'s over time and acted as unpaid salesman, probably before some of them were even born.
 
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Dark days ahead for Apple. You might say black black or jet black days ahead.
 
Unless you need to keep the old headphones for your computer at work. Or want good headphones for in-flight entertainment on planes, or if you have an iPad that you don't replace as frequently as your phone or computer.

In the meantime, you suddenly need to pack multiple sets of earphones and/or dongles when you travel. Oh, and don't forget an extra AC plug for your Airbud charger so you can charge it at the same time as your phone.


I know it can be frustrating but that's how tech works. I used to have a lot of old serial devices, a lot of external SCSI devices, yadda, yadda, yadda. Tech moves on. You upgrade.

Hey, if you want to listen to your wired headphones on a plane, bring them and if you want to use them on your iPhone use the adaptor that literally is nothing more than a wire a few inches long. Don't make it sound like you have to bring a toolbox full of stuff. Are you posting on airline forums about having to bring that stupid two prong adaptor so you can use your own headphones on a plane?

And you don't have to bring an "extra" AC plug. Use the same one you charge your phone with. Do you really need to charge all of your devices at once?

I travel. I travel a lot. Like Asia and Europe and the Middle East kind of travel. Believe me, between all of the plug converters and everything else, brining a six inch piece of wire is not going to dramatically change my packing list.

When I travel I typically bring 1 or 2 AC plugs (two if I'm traveling with my wife), a USB-USB mini adaptor (for my mini-USB devices like DSLR chargers, GoPros, etc), two or three USB to lightening cables, my laptop, my phone, a power brick, sometimes an iPad or iPad mini (for reading books or watching my own movies), and my laptop charger cable. If I bring headphones (I don't always bring them) I also throw that stupid two prong adaptor thingy.

Oh, and more recently, my Apple Watch and the Apple Watch charger. But even then, if I know I'm going to be in transit for extended periods, I won't bring the Apple Watch at all and will bring the trusty old Casio G-Shock.

I've never had a problem keeping all my stuff charged up. Sometimes my transit time will be over 30 hours.

I never use my iPhone on planes. That is a critical communications tool that I will need as soon as I hit the ground. As soon as I board the plane, I switch the phone off to save the battery. Once I'm settled somewhere where I know I have easy access to charging, I'll use it for music and books and games and such but not when I could find myself stranded in the Hong Kong airport with no juice in my phone.

That's why I bring an iPad. I can listen to podcasts, watch movies, play games, or whatever. And if I drain the battery I charge it using my power brick or the onboard power (if the plane has it). And if I've drained the battery, chances are I should probably be giving it a rest and catching a snooze anyway.

Same if I need to get work done that can't be done on the iPad, I use the laptop.

For travel, I do not bring wireless headphones regardless of what phone I'm bringing simply because they don't interface with the onboard entertainment systems on planes. Maybe that will change with the iPhone7 (due to me getting used to Airbuds) and I'll have to bring the Airbuds case as my "on the ground" headphones. But that's on me. That's a choice. I'm not forced to. They're totally optional if I bring my wired headphones.

When I arrive, between the two USB ports on my laptop and the AC plugs I've brought with me I can charge everything that I've brought with me.

Every night when I get back to the hotel, everything gets hooked up to chargers so it's ready to go for the next day.

I don't know why people make this out like it's a huge burden. It's not. Especially if you're already used to traveling efficiently.
 
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Me too. Even sadder because those accusing us of whining should realise it's because we believed in the company, spent $$$'s over time and acted as unpaid salesman, probably before some of them were even born.

So you fell in love with a corporate entity and you want people to feel sorry for you? Once you learn that technology is a tool and not part of who you are, I'm sure you'll be able to smile again. Good luck.
 
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