Free as in you pay $1500au and get them, or pay $1500au and don't. If you're upset about it, use the $1500au for a phone you can use with your headphones.
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Apple's Phil Schiller Recommends Lightning Dock for Charging an iPhone 7 While Listening to Music
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Just pointing out that when you drop $1500, nothing is free. The headphones are part of that price
LOL BMW makes this. Yes, BMW. It is $97...! And each of its cable parts are about 2.8 feet too short to be useful for anything. At least the 3.5mm jack is male though, it does have that going for it.
It's almost like they knew this day was coming... and are in prime position to male $$$ off of it... how could they possibly have known? Hmmm?
Profit grab, folks.
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Dear Phil, in engineering speak your suggestion is called a "dirty workaround", can apple come up with a real solution.
A 24 bit DAC in an embedded device with that amount of digital and RF noise floating around inside is an absolute JOKE. It's nothing but marketing bs.Welcome to dongle mess 2016... Either listen to music on BS Bluetooth 4.2 or pay to get what you could do before you bought a new expensive phone.
Love that there seem to be no DAC improvement in the iphone 7. So you still need to get a headphone with one to get any better audio quality over the jack that was there before
Did apple miss the last 3 years where companies have been doing 24bit DACS, stereo speakers, water proofing and a headphone jack.
Sure you can put one in there; but you will NEVER get truly meaningful 24 bit performance out if it, period.
While your adapter would be useful for scenarios where the phone is on your desk, think about the times where you just want to use your headphones while out and about. A wide, long and rigid adapter with huge additional leverage compared to a cable version, connected to largish phone and stuck in your pocket would be busting Lightning ports like crazy. I'd much prefer a "Y" splitter to this in most scenarios.
thats nice, just be prepared to buy another one after the battery dies on you...
I have been using BT stereo headsets ever since they came out and nowadays I only prefer them when working out.
For all those Futureoados who are cheering about this release:
If you think this is the best Apple and its Engineers could possibly come up with to move the industry into the future then you don't love Apple.
For me, I am worried about Apple. How could this clunky workaround even come up during planning or a brainstorm session. Never mind actually considered and then actually followed through.
My god!
If you think this is the best Apple and its Engineers could possibly come up with to move the industry into the future then you don't love Apple.
For me, I am worried about Apple. How could this clunky workaround even come up during planning or a brainstorm session. Never mind actually considered and then actually followed through.
My god!
"The future of audio?" I can tell you - the AES are not going to choose the lightning connector as a standard, so this is clearly not the future of audio anywhere but in Cupertino's exec's delusional minds - this is change that is convenient for Apple and not the consumer. Oh, you believe the marketing spiel and "Phil's" canned response? Sheesh.
Sure, buy more toys for your toys (hey, it's just another 50 bucks for the nightstand, and one for the office, just a few more resources...). Apple and the eternal growth consumer society need it... consume, consume!
BTW before anyone else points it out: yes the sales of the iPhone 7 will be great - but that is despite the new lightning connector-only audio, not because of it. And soon there will be no more choice in Apple-land...
FWIW I use an iPhone with 3.5mm jack and I never though to myself "gee I really wish this jack wasn't there"
As a postscript I'll add that I can put a Lightning dock in every room in my abode and office, but I refuse to give Apple the suggestion that they have made the right choice. Vote with your wallet and buy an SE or 6S if you must buy an iPhone.
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HFPA is high fidelity pure audio. The high end optical media for music. It offers stereo and surround sound playback for use in bluray players. However only a VERY limited amount of music is available and these (and similar formats such as SACD) are the source (in most cases) for 24 bit flac. In the vast majority of cases, music is provided in lossy mp3 type formats from online stores. Ergo, CD is still the best format for purchasing music. And one can then rip to their preferred media file type.
No, analog means it was never digital to begin with. Analog is something that was always a waveform not a quantified digital packet. This is just a digital signal that has been put through a process simulating an analog input - true analog has never been digitized at all, like a record or magnetic tape, or about a true analog signal that is being reduced to a digital signal. Inside the phone is only digital in or out this is about digital data, not analog, when you get down to it.
And there we have the real complaint finally articulated. I can understand that but the simple truth is that most people don’t need two redundant physical ports on their phones and Apple is making their phones to be best for most people but leaving the flexibility of usage so that those with specialized needs can still get what they want with a bit of ingenuity.
For niche market needs a cordless hub case could be created that fit securely in the single hub and multiplies it to more lightning ports, faux analog ports, or whatever else is needed, extends the overall iPhone length by a bit more than the minimal length of these ports.
Obviously having to do this when it it didn’t have to be before is going to upset some people that need to have specialized equipment like you do. Again, keep using the dual port system until the hub case is marketed, you design it, or you find something else.
If you just can’t use the 1 physical port phone I sincerely suggest getting your complaint escalated to higher levels and get some sort of adjustment from Apple and its upgrade program, keep using the best dual port device they have and take the time to explore your options and advocate for your needs. What is the shortest 3.5mm pin female input possible? A case that adds that size ‘chin’ of a hub to the bottom of the phone when its in it that gives you multiple outputs would seem to be the solution that allows you to still use the phone as you want while not requiring Apple to have redundant ports that aren’t necessary for the majority of their customers and will only be less necessary as time goes on.
I'm pretty sure people are aware there are other options. They don't need people like you to keep re-hashing the same crap over and over. People have opinions that differ from yours - deal with it.
Hey when airlines removed free baggage no one complained and airline made a tonne of money !!!
Apple worked closely with Belkin on this. The very existence of this adapter the day after the iPhone 7 was released demonstrates conclusively that Apple was aware that this was going to be a problem, and it was going to be necessary to resolve prior to the phones starting to ship.
So there's no point in debating whether it's something people need to do, Apple already KNEW customers did this, in significant enough numbers that they sought out Belkin and worked with them to make sure an adapter would be ready in time to solve the problem before it came up. And they used Belkin so as to avoid the appearance they made a mistake in removing the headphone jack by releasing a whole bevy of Apple adapters to replace the functionality they removed with the 3.5mm Jack, not to mention the cynical view that they removed the jack to charge customers for numerous adapters to provide the same functionality they lost.
Even better will be when they have a case that has this and maybe even a 3.5mm pin in it for those that need multiple data ports/simultaneous charging needs. This is just the first rendition of the kind of custom port multiplication solutions that will appear for those that need multiple ports. The majority of us won’t own one of these at all but everyone can have what they want.Apple worked closely with Belkin on this. The very existence of this adapter the day after the iPhone 7 was released demonstrates conclusively that Apple was aware that this was going to be a problem, and it was going to be necessary to resolve prior to the phones starting to ship.
So there's no point in debating whether it's something people need to do, Apple already KNEW customers did this, in significant enough numbers that they sought out Belkin and worked with them to make sure an adapter would be ready in time to solve the problem before it came up. And they used Belkin so as to avoid the appearance they made a mistake in removing the headphone jack by releasing a whole bevy of Apple adapters to replace the functionality they removed with the 3.5mm Jack, not to mention the cynical view that they removed the jack to charge customers for numerous adapters to provide the same functionality they lost.
Source for this claim?
Apple went out of their way to make sure this option was available from day one. I'd argue this is proof that your statement is at best marginally correct, and at worst comepletely unfounded.
Come on, you don’t think Apple didn’t realize they were cutting the number of ports on the phone by half? That some people want two ports? That they worked with Belkin for this solution shows how considerate they are to everyone’s needs while still being able to remove the redundant port that most don’t need. I won’t be getting one of these, I have no need for two data ports and can charge my phone while wearing my BT earbuds and headphones, the only kind I’ve used for almost 2 years, just fine when I need to (playing games, photo editing, on a long plane ride.)
When they got rid of the serial port there were serial dongles available day one. When they got rid of the floppy drive they had externals available day one. When they got rid of the optical drive... etc. Where you see conspiracy and admission of error, I see the standard Apple ‘we realize this is a change and we will make it as easy as we can for you but regardless - we are still changing’ just as they have done since the first black and white 64k memory Macintosh came home with me in January of 1984.
Again, anyone who needs dual ports or a port and a simultaneous charging solution - there it is. There will be more if the past is any indication. Shoot, might as well be complaining that they change the size of their cases and I have to buy a new one with every upgrade - about the same cost, OR LESS. I’m glad I don’t have to buy a new nightstand charger stand.
EDIT: Just went down to the Room of Requirement and dug up my old Keyspan™ serial to USB 3rd party dongle. Takes me back and makes me realize that all this bellyaching I have done myself, but in the end we all buy the dongles we need.
Mountain. Molehill. I’m moving on.
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I'm sure it's already been mentioned in this thread, but hopefully there will be a battery case for the 7 that has a 3,5 headphone jack. Would Apple be allowed to block case makers from selling such a case though?
I'm frankly stunned that Apple didn't offer one. The only apparent difference between the 7 battery case and 6s battery case, is that the 7 doesn't have a headphone jack hole. If Apple offered two different packs with that subtle difference, certainly adding a model with the adapter built in wouldn't have been a problem. Or how about a pack with an adapter and two Lightning ports for charging and listening with Lightning headphones?
Apple could certainly block a third party from building one by denying them a license, but it would be hard to deter an unlicensed manufacturer from doing it, it's just not that complicated. But I don't see any reason for Apple to block such a thing, especially since they only make money off of it.
The irony of you saying that can’t be lost on you.
Again, I see a future where audio data is being transmitted with lost packet recovery to the wireless speaker device, converted with an improved DAC designed specifically for the task required allowing a fantastic audio experience without wires or physical connection and it makes me excited about the possibilities.
You see a world where you might have to spend some money on a dongle if you need something others don’t and its seems to have upset you very disproportionately IMO.
Again, mountain. molehill. I really suggest you just buy the dongles you need, I did.
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People are already figuring out how to do just that - https://fstoppers.com/originals/only-hope-iphone-7-battery-case-headphone-jack-145239
Again, opinion and personal anectdote.
Yes I agree, the future is a bright, wireless one.
Doesn't change the fact that Apple botched a very important transition in audio.
This isn't removing the floppy drive for a verificable minority of Mac users (especially at the end of 1998). This is removing the primary means of using headphones for up to 73% of new current headphone purchasers, which means is also a universal standard, present in most consumer audio devices manufactured today, for an installed user base of over half-a-billion customers.
Apple took away the common functionality of the headphone jack and failed to replace that functionality in its entirety with either Lightning or wireless, despite being well aware of the deficiencies, as evidenced by the Belkin adapter. And I've yet to see a solution to share the iPhone 7 audio with another person without using the 3.5mm adapter.
For you, it's much ado about nothing. It actually doesn't affect me much at all either. But unlike you, I do care about how it affects others. And rather than stick my head in the sand, and make up "facts" based on specious conjecture, anecdote, and spin, I'll call it like I see it. And rather than just 'moving on' as you seem to advocate, I'd suggest you're letting others opinion on the matter affect you disproportionately. Maybe you should just move on, and not concern yourself further? I know I'm moving on from this conversation.
"But if, like me, you use your iPhone as a musical instrument, and often connect it to multiple external devices including sound systems and portable amplifiers, for live performance with the many amazing iOS musical apps including Garage Band, then you would likely already know wireless audio has significant latency and compression, and is therefore useless for this use case—a use case that heretofore Apple has been the exclusive provider of solutions for. (I mean, neither Android and Windows phones come close in terms of apps or accessories.)
So to see Apple dump its musicians like this is disgusting. It really makes me physically sick."
I can see a valid point here if your iPad or iPhone is your source for making music. I'm a film composer so I don't use my iPad or iPhone except to jot down some quick melodies on the Music Memo app. But if eliminating the headphone jack suffers your music creation, then that would be detrimental. I suppose there are solutions already available, like Apogee products (Duet 2, One, Quartet) and others. But most of the time when doing serious music production you have a dedicated audio interface that handles all your audio needs. This is certainly a unique situation though in your case.
So to see Apple dump its musicians like this is disgusting. It really makes me physically sick."
I can see a valid point here if your iPad or iPhone is your source for making music. I'm a film composer so I don't use my iPad or iPhone except to jot down some quick melodies on the Music Memo app. But if eliminating the headphone jack suffers your music creation, then that would be detrimental. I suppose there are solutions already available, like Apogee products (Duet 2, One, Quartet) and others. But most of the time when doing serious music production you have a dedicated audio interface that handles all your audio needs. This is certainly a unique situation though in your case.
There ya go. Acting like the dongle for the legacy 3.5mm port is any different than the serial USB, or the wireless optical, or all the other transition accommodations is just persecution fantasy.
Need to use a 3.5mm device, use the incredibly cheap dongle available. Need to charge and have a data port, use the Belkin or some other one that comes down the line.
Shed a tear for those that can’t make either decision without gnashing of teeth or rending of clothes? Sorry, Luddites have never been the Apple market anyway.
Take care and I hope you get something that makes you happy real soon.