This flood of reports that the keyboard is pretty much identical to the previous Macbook butterfly to type on are insane... surely Apple heard the howling? Was there a single review for the Macbook - even from the most Apple friendly sites - that didn't damn the keyboard for prolonged typing?
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Apple's Phil Schiller: 'We Don't Design for Price, We Design for the Experience'
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Sure "Not designing for price". So why is it that you do not even get the extension cord in the box anymore? having to be near a wall is somehow a better experience? That is just another 19 dollars (25 euros) for the user.
I am a student and had the money ready to buy one. But I did not. I just can't.
I can't figure out the target audience for this product. Who is this laptop for?
Students cannot justify a 2.0 dual core for 1499. And what professional is buying a laptop with 256gb ssd for 2399, with the added inconvenience of needing dongles to connect their stuff? (which would not have been that much of a problem if they did not also need to pay extra for those)
I am a student and had the money ready to buy one. But I did not. I just can't.
I can't figure out the target audience for this product. Who is this laptop for?
Students cannot justify a 2.0 dual core for 1499. And what professional is buying a laptop with 256gb ssd for 2399, with the added inconvenience of needing dongles to connect their stuff? (which would not have been that much of a problem if they did not also need to pay extra for those)
Honestly if I were in the market for a macOS laptop I would love this except for what I hear about the butterfly keyboard. Key travel is huge to me and this sounds barely better than Microsoft's horrible, aborted 'touch cover' they tried to peddle for the original Surface. I can't believe Ive is so maniacally devoted to thinness that he would sacrifice the typing experience like this. Imagine 2 mm thicker with better keyboard and more battery life!
The focus on thinness really needs to stop. At what point are they going to realize that just because you make something thinner, doesn't mean it has to be. Nobody is going decide to buy a Mac if it's 2mm thinner than the last iteration. Hell, I'd rather they keep it 2mm thicker and give us a slightly bigger battery, better keyboard (the butterfly keyboard sucks) or include usable ports. The thinness focus is all for marketing. It has done nothing to improve functionality and hasn't made the user experience any better.
Precisely. This is not a pro laptop any longer. It's more of a fashion accessory than anything.
It's pretty clear Apple has started being more of a fashion company with the introduction of the Apple Watch (17,000 dollars for a watch that will be obsolete in 2 years...lay off the weed, Apple)
The NYTimes has an article about the collapse of the middle class in America today. You think I just make this stuff up, but it is really happening.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/30/opinion/sunday/richer-but-not-better-off.html?_r=0
Hmm... lets see about this. Apple is too stubborn to add a touch screen to Macs and try to compensate with a touch bar and a gigantic trackpad?! I don't understand Apple's logic anymore, because apparently they don't have any logic at all. OS X has always been perfectly capable of supporting touch input, taking note from the iPad's hand gestures and OS X's trackpad gestures it really would make a perfect experience. Apple has plenty of experience with touch screens and I don't understand why they are so stupid to not add touch to Macs. Right now their product line is a joke, and they used to hold the standard of the market, but that has well been changed by Google, and Microsoft especially. They have gotten way way too greedy. These new MacBooks are a good example of this. Making the most expensive piece of crap with hardware that has already been succeeded. The touchbar to me is absolutely stupid and 4 USB-C ports is ridiculous. I'd rather have a thicker laptop that has all the standard I/O ports and has plenty of power over an overpriced, over-hyped garbage-can that has really just turned into a joke. Its ridiculous that I can buy a Razer Blade ultrabook, that has more power than the MacBook Pro and more I/O, with the same quality materials, and OS X compatibility, for the same price as a "Pro device" that you would put more money into from having to buy adapters just to use the peripherals you already have. I'm glad we bought a last gen MacBook Pro, because it really is more valuable than this new overpriced junkbook. I really am extremely salty about this, even if you have a MacBook older than the 13-15 models, I don't think you should buy this, but if this is what you want, then go for it. I just don't really agree with this at all.
35-BUCKS!?!?!?!?!
Yep. 2% of the price of the machine.
Surely you can spend $35 on an accessory for your $2000 computer.
There are also many cheaper ones...
Of course that ignores Apple's use of subliminal advertising, which can be found in many of their recent ads. For example:
So here we have a rudimentary outline of a person, with their head resting on what appears to be a woman's ass (complete with a**hole). Also present, but not outlined, the orange mist at the top of the apple part of the logo is also in the shape of a torso with a rudimentary phallus near where the "bite" part is, this is pointing directly to the woman's genital area. Messages: Kiss our ass and Apple products are sexy.
Here is another example:
Here an erect nipple is clearly visible indicating arousal, and the fabric of the woman's dress is in the shape of a hand reaching for her crotch. The text "Just what you need. Right when you need it," then links the watch to sex. Another dead giveaway here is the deliberate misuse of grammar, with these being two sentences, when they should be one. Messages: Sex, just what you need. Sex, right when you need it. Buy the Apple Watch and you will get more sex.
These are just two of many examples. I might add that this kind of technique in advertising is both highly manipulative and immoral. But, it is also frequently used. Personally, I find Apple's use of such a scumbag type of method to sell their products as absolutely disgusting.
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You are kidding right? USB-A is everywhere, every single device i have that connects to a computer uses it. Everything from my GPS for my car, my USB thumbdrives, Mouse and keyboard, External Drives and the list goes on.
The reason it took two years is that they had a really hard time making it anything but a shiney gimmick for Kardashian type magpies, so they tried a few times and then decided to try and pass it off as cool and let marketing take it from there
When floppy drives were removed from the original iMac, floppy was pretty much the only way 99% of users had to save or back up their personal data. Writeable cd's didn't exist or were in their infancy where any drive cost several hundred dollars, let alone an external one compatible with a Mac. USB sticks didn't exist yet. Few had any way to back up data over a network or move it where they needed it. Floppy was it.
CD was somewhat less the case as there were usb sticks by the time the writeable cd died, but when Apple first removed the DVD drive from their computers, the vast majority of software was still distributed by optical disk, and in no other format.
I would say both of those situations were a far bigger hassle for most people than needing an inexpensive adapter to go from one plug type to another.
Even so, USB isnt used just for storage, its used to connect almost everything to a PC. On the new Pro you will need a dongle to connect ANYTHING to it.
And why put 4 of the SAME connector on it and NOTHING else, on a pro machine!!!!!!!!!!
their a joke. I'm annoyed i bought into their ecosystem at home, and getting scared that i rely on them for work.
So the joke is on me I guess
How old is your home Macbook Pro? Dude, what can I say if you're totally into Apple ecosystem, you have no choice but to swallow whatever they do.
Personally I'd get an Android and Windows.
The difference is that most people don't attach that many things to their laptops anymore - I go weeks if not months without needing to connect anything to my rMB. I can't remember the last time my wife connected anything to her Air. And if they do, it's usually at a desk where they'll now be able to build a single cable docking solution.
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Because those 4 ports can be converted into literally anything you or anyone else will ever want to connect. With fixed-function ports most of those ports will remain unused most of the time. Most people will never connect to a mini display port, or need to convert it to HDMI first - or vice versa. Most people never use the SD slot, ever, etc.
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Despite what you want to think, usb has not exactly been a consistent experience for the past decade plus. I have a bag full of different cables that live in my computer bag because there are so many variations of it. I keep an entire box of usb cables and adapters at my desk for people who need them.
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ROFL uh no, in LATE 1998 a large majority of new pcs had at least a cd-rom drive at 4x or above. The only thing that they adopted that was pretty rare at the time was usb..
ROFL. What was someone who needs to take their files from home to school supposed to do with that cd-rom drive?
home is different ones and work is 2014, and yeah I have to eat it
I used to love programming and now it's a chore just to sit down and touch the mac I used to love. It's naive and idealistic i know, but I still can't help it, any excuse to work on something not apple related lately. Anyone tried a top razer and run macos on emulator or hackingtosh instead ?
But it costs Apple, what? $1.256 to make it? In quantity?
I love beer, but that doesn't mean that I want to pay $10.00 for it at an airport.
Yeah because airplay is reliable and lag free, bluetooth is fast and lag free and so on and so forth, it's magical, in presentations.
It's no surprise they like better to talk about pokemon go and watchbands lately.