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Clamshell? Now I'm listening!

I have a Razr+ and absolutely love it. Just dont use it as my main driver due to the camera and not being on iOS.
 
I'm more interested in the Z-Flip form factor

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Agreed - the rumors sound like this could be coming in 2028 (which of course, who knows if that is a credible rumor and if it is, if timelines will slip as they tend to with Apple). I'm very interested in a Motorola razr type device but I'm too heavy in the Apple ecosystem and not willing to make a switch to Android at this time. I just upgraded to the 17 so hopefully it will tide me over until then.
 
What's interesting is not what Apple could offer in 2028, but what the others will come up with in the next 5-6 months.
 
"In 2027, Apple will reportedly debut a special 20th anniversary ‌iPhone‌ model with "zero" bezel around the display. It will allegedly feature a "flat, candybar"-like shape with the OLED display bending around all four edges of the device, wrapping the entire front frame."

*eyeroll—what good is a 'zero bezel' with a case? Will it not 'need' a case?
 
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Just as I thought I'd seen the end of curved screens. FFS. I don't want curved screens to come back nor do I want a wrap-around-all-edges screen. Because when Apple does this every single Android copycat will do it, and we'll be right back to 2015 when Samsung started all of this curved screen nonsense. This really aggravates me. Curved screens are the absolute worst gimmick ever created for cell phones. Scratch that...wrap around screens will be the worst gimmick ever created for cell phones.

Just give me a damn phone with flat screen, under display Face ID, under display (or power button) fingerprint scanner, great camera, and great battery.
 
This is doing the Vision Pro Monday morning QB thing here..

Nobody has any idea what "Apple intended" for the iPhone Air, but I really doubt it was to "dramatically cut down on orders in the supply chain" 2 months in.

Think about it ... if they "intended" this low demand, they wouldn't be cutting down on orders and would have planned for it in the supply chain to begin with.
Barely a month ago Ming Chi Kuo reported a production *increase* of the Air in anticipation of better sales in comparison to the Plus models. Maybe Apple got out ahead of its skis on this. Maybe other factors are reining it in, such as the China eSIM delay. Or the lack of advertising or even messaging is hurting the Air. Whatever the case, Apple has a pretty good case study in the Air's rollout that could apply to future models. (You might want to do more than put them on display to look pretty.) In the end it doesn't matter to me as a buyer. If the Air dies prematurely I'll have a nice collector's item that still has 6+ years of OS support, well past the time I'll get another one.
 
Maybe Apple got out ahead of its skis on this. Maybe other factors are reining it in, such as the China eSIM delay. Or the lack of advertising or even messaging is hurting the Air.
The problem is that China is producing better and better phones, to the point where Apple can't even compete in China, where the iPhone is actually manufactured.
 
The problem is that China is producing better and better phones, to the point where Apple can't even compete in China, where the iPhone is actually manufactured.
That's great, but the vast majority of those phones aren't sold in the US where I live. If Apple is forced to innovate and diversify in order to compete in China, so be it. They still have a massive lead in software and integration, unless you live in WeChat.
 
This is doing the Vision Pro Monday morning QB thing here..

Nobody has any idea what "Apple intended" for the iPhone Air, but I really doubt it was to "dramatically cut down on orders in the supply chain" 2 months in.

Think about it ... if they "intended" this low demand, they wouldn't be cutting down on orders and would have planned for it in the supply chain to begin with.
*Reportedly* cutting down on orders. We don't know that as a fact, just as much as we don't know what Apple intended.
 
Lol fair enough, but prepare yourself for disappointment. There just aren't enough of you guys, and the mini size doesn't sell enough to justify reviving.... If anything phones are going to keep getting bigger
Agreed. Last time I checked, iPhone 12/13 Mini flopped so bad that all the smaller phones (including Android ones) were killed by the majority of us. Because most of us are used to bigger or average size phones. I bet these iPhone mini minority are trying so hard to bait Apple just to waste R&D resources to justify their opinions/needs. Apple ain’t gonna make that same mistake twice because they’re smart and know their game. If these minority wants a mini phone so badly then they should just shut the **** up and make it on their own rather than screaming in every article.
 
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I can't understand the appeal regarding a wrap-around iPhone screen. I'm assuming capacitive button on the side? I don't know. Other than looking cool, I don't get the appeal honestly.

I wish that clamshell iPhone existed today. Would have been perfect for my parents when I got them new iPhones this year. (Went with the 16e, mini would have been better, if it was still available.)

I want the folding iPhone badly. Going to be a long 11 more months.
 
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In my opinion yes 😂 . I love Xiaomi phones. Owned the 14 and 15 Ultra and think the 17 Pro Max is great.
My wife had a Poco phone, which I might use, instead of a new iPhone (the up coming HyperOS 3 is amazing). Her newest Oppo phone has four 50MP cameras, one of which is the front camera. And, AI stabilisation and autofocus. Lovely stuff. I haven't explored it fully yet.
 
Just give me a damn phone with flat screen, under display Face ID, under display (or power button) fingerprint scanner, great camera, and great battery.
The bottom bezel home button with TouchID is the first thing I locate by touch when I reach into my pocket to get my phone. I then move it in a single arc to the PayWave reader, transaction done, confirmed by a haptic buzz, and back to my Pocket. Don't have to look at the screen, don't have to interact with the phone.

No amount of extra screen real estate is worth the convenience of that bottom bezel. Nothing FaceID can do is worth the "not needing to show my face to my phone to unlock / authenticate" convenience of TouchID.

There's literally nothing about any iPhone post-SE3 that I would give up my SE3 to obtain.
 
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