iPad Apple's planned obsolescence is a joke

matttye

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I have a 16GB iPad 2. My iPad automatically downloads a 6+GB update and I have no say in this. I install the update to get my space back, and the software update runs like an arse.

If that's not an attempt to force someone to upgrade then I don't know what is.

When this thing ran iOS 5 it was really quick. Now with the latest software update, if I turn off all the bells and whistles you'd think it would still run quick, but it doesn't.

Sometimes I have to wait about 15 seconds after opening certain apps before I can use it.

There are graphical errors everywhere:-

1) turn a split keyboard from portrait into landscape and the background of the keyboard is drawn incorrectly;
2) opening the multitasking switcher results in a 2-3 delay then it jerks open;
3) when in iMessage, open the task switcher and the content of the message you were reading vanishes.

None of these things happen on the iPhone 5s.

I think this thing isn't fit for the iPad 2 and Apple automatically downloading the update and practically forcing users to install it is a sly move to get them to upgrade.
 

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I think this thing isn't fit for the iPad 2 and Apple automatically downloading the update and practically forcing users to install it is a sly move to get them to upgrade.
For what ever reason, newer iOS versions always run on older hardware poorly. This isn't just an iPad issue, people have long complained about this on the iPhone.

If you have an older iPad/iPhone then I'd be very hesitant to upgrade it. I have an old iPad 1 and it runs well, but I've not upgraded it at all. My kids now use it, and they love the larger screen size. Sure it doesn't run the latest apps but they don't need that, so its fine.
 
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matttye

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For what ever reason, newer iOS versions always run on older hardware poorly. This isn't just an iPad issue, people have long complained about this on the iPhone.

If you have an older iPad/iPhone then I'd be very hesitant to upgrade it. I have an old iPad 1 and it runs well, but I've not upgraded it at all. My kids now use it, and they love the larger screen size. Sure it doesn't run the latest apps but they don't need that, so its fine.
I agree wholeheartedly. I wouldn't have upgraded it if it weren't for the fact that it was using a fair bit of my total ~12GB just to store the update.

My 5s is okay for the most part on iOS 8 but not sure I'd want to upgrade it any further.
 
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laudern

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Couldn't you format and restore the iPad and it would remove the uninstalled update?
 
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liquorice

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How did your ipad automatically download update ?
I have ipad 2 and have no intention of doing update.
 
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sanke1

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Yes, only for it to redownload it.
I noticed that you can pause the downloading. My iPad and iPhone on 7.1.2 says downloading paused. If you connect to PC for syncing, it will unpause till it's connected by sync cable. Once you remove the cable, it will pause again.



 
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WilliamLondon

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Well, we could all demand that Apple never improve anything in future versions of their products, no faster CPUs, no more storage, no more memory, no better graphics or display technology, then in that world your iPad 2 would be perfect forever. Too bad Apple products last nearly forever I guess. :rolleyes:
 
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matttye

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Well, we could all demand that Apple never improve anything in future versions of their products, no faster CPUs, no more storage, no more memory, no better graphics or display technology, then in that world your iPad 2 would be perfect forever. Too bad Apple products last nearly forever I guess. :rolleyes:
Re read what I said.

I said Apple shouldn't practically force us to update to new software; ESPECIALLY when that software runs poorly on the device.

I'd have been fine with Apple not releasing iOS 8 for my iPad, but using up my measly 16GB storage to force download the update leaves me with little option but to install it.
 
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uiop.

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Not to sound like I'm wearing a tinfoil hat, but I've long believed Apple is aware of how poorly newer versions of software runs on older devices. Whether its intentional or simply due to a lack of interest in optimizing for all hardware, who knows.
 
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Gutwrench

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I have a 16g iPad2 also and it did not automatically download the update. I had to tap to download and then install. Is this a setting difference?
 
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Rodster

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I'd like to ask what the OP is doing where iOS 8 is automatically being downloaded? I have an iPad 2, 3, and Air and neither of them have received automatic downloads. :confused:

The only way you will get a forced update is if you are connected to the internet and the device is plugged in via the charger.
 
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mw360

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Well, we could all demand that Apple never improve anything in future versions of their products, no faster CPUs, no more storage, no more memory, no better graphics or display technology, then in that world your iPad 2 would be perfect forever. Too bad Apple products last nearly forever I guess. :rolleyes:
Just because faster and better devices are now available doesn't mean Apple is right to reach into our older devices and turn down the speed dial. At the very minimum Apple should provide a clear choice on whether to download the update and support those who choose not to. By support I mean ensure that advertise services, iCloud, Facetime etc continue to work as they did at the time of purchase, and that security vulnerabilities are fixed (eg goto fail).

The company has a 12 digit bank balance. They can easily than afford it.
 
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Michael Goff

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Sorry it requires 6GB of space for the install, doesn't actually use up that much space for the download.
Then my iPad lied to me and I'm in for a world of hurt when it installs. >_>

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Just because faster and better devices are now available doesn't mean Apple is right to reach into our older devices and turn down the speed dial. At the very minimum Apple should provide a clear choice on whether to download the update and support those who choose not to. By support I mean ensure that advertise services, iCloud, Facetime etc continue to work as they did at the time of purchase, and that security vulnerabilities are fixed (eg goto fail).

The company has a 12 digit bank balance. They can easily than afford it.
The iPad 2 came out 3 years ago. It getting updates at all is pretty big in the day of mobile tech.
 
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matttye

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Then my iPad lied to me and I'm in for a world of hurt when it installs. >_>

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The iPad 2 came out 3 years ago. It getting updates at all is pretty big in the day of mobile tech.
It doesn't use that amount of space once installed, just needs it for the installation process itself.
 
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Michael Goff

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It doesn't use that amount of space once installed, just needs it for the installation process itself.
So I should be good with the 4.7gb of space that it told me I needed before the install? It sounds like a weird question, but I'd rather nothing go wrong with this upgrade.
 
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CEmajr

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How is it automatically downloading the update to your device? For both my iPhone and iPad it told me the update was available and gave the option to download but never forced downloaded on its own.
 
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chupachup

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I have a 16GB iPad 2. My iPad automatically downloads a 6+GB update and I have no say in this. I install the update to get my space back, and the software update runs like an arse.

If that's not an attempt to force someone to upgrade then I don't know what is.

When this thing ran iOS 5 it was really quick. Now with the latest software update, if I turn off all the bells and whistles you'd think it would still run quick, but it doesn't.

Sometimes I have to wait about 15 seconds after opening certain apps before I can use it.

There are graphical errors everywhere:-

1) turn a split keyboard from portrait into landscape and the background of the keyboard is drawn incorrectly;
2) opening the multitasking switcher results in a 2-3 delay then it jerks open;
3) when in iMessage, open the task switcher and the content of the message you were reading vanishes.

None of these things happen on the iPhone 5s.

I think this thing isn't fit for the iPad 2 and Apple automatically downloading the update and practically forcing users to install it is a sly move to get them to upgrade.
I've never heard of an iPad downloading an update without you clicking download.

You have to click on iTunes, on the iPad you have to select Install, then click ok then accept the terms.

Same deal on your computer. Even if it Downloads it won't install unless you agree

You do know just because it says there's an update available doesn't mean you have to click install right?
 
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Gutwrench

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So I should be good with the 4.7gb of space that it told me I needed before the install? It sounds like a weird question, but I'd rather nothing go wrong with this upgrade.
That's what it told me too, that I needed 4.7g for the install only.
 
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jrcsh6

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I've never has an update download itself. 3 iPads and 5 iPhones in the family. Each time there is an update I go around updating manually. In fact I have an iPhone 4S that i regularly reject the update on. I keep iOS6 on there. I liked that rendition. I don't remember but maybe there is a toggle for auto updating. There is one for app's, maybe it applies to the iOS updates too.
 
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