I think there is an automatic setting to download iOS updates in the background which I checked and turned that off. It's in the App Store settings in iOS 7 where you can elect to recieve automatic OS updates. At least I think that's what it's for.
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iPad Apple's planned obsolescence is a joke
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I think there is an automatic setting to download iOS updates in the background which I checked and turned that off. It's in the App Store settings in iOS 7 where you can elect to recieve automatic OS updates. At least I think that's what it's for.
I have iOS 8 running on my iPad 2 with nary an issue. It was running pretty slow in iOS 7. Recently I restored as new and it was much better, even more improvement after upgrading to iOS 8. You couldn't pay me to go back, Maybe a restore will help?
I think you're right, and for phones, I don't think this is a particularly terrible thing. The problem is, I don't replace my iPad on a 2 year cycle like I do with my phone.
You could have just deleted the update from the Usage settings. And the update itself isn't 6GB, it's around 1GB but requires 6GB to install. So having it sit stagnant on the device just takes up 1GB in other words. And you could just disable WiFi when you plug in and lock the device, that way, the update won't redownload and take up space.
And just to clarify, things for some other people, the update downloads on its own, but does not install on its own. He isn't saying he went to sleep and woke up with the iPad running iOS 8, he just suddenly had a badge by the settings icon and approx. 1GB being taken up by the downloaded update. It requires an action to install it and make any changes.
And just to clarify, things for some other people, the update downloads on its own, but does not install on its own. He isn't saying he went to sleep and woke up with the iPad running iOS 8, he just suddenly had a badge by the settings icon and approx. 1GB being taken up by the downloaded update. It requires an action to install it and make any changes.
This isn't planned obsolescence. Technology improves constantly and every year Apple makes better faster hardware to take advantage of these improvements. With these improvements they can then develop better software to run on the higher spec hardware. This creates an ever evolving user experience, which in turn allows apple to sell more hardware, which then funds the research that goes into making better hardware and products.
Would you expect OX Yosemite to run on an Apple II? No. The iPad 2 is over 3 year old now. There have been significant hardware advancements in that time. The very fact that iOS 8 runs at all on the iPad 2 shows that Apple wants their older hardware to be as current as possible.
Would you expect OX Yosemite to run on an Apple II? No. The iPad 2 is over 3 year old now. There have been significant hardware advancements in that time. The very fact that iOS 8 runs at all on the iPad 2 shows that Apple wants their older hardware to be as current as possible.
I, like you, believe there's nothing accidental about this phenomenon. We need more public outrage to get Apple to cave and allow us to restore to older iOS versions; or at the very least disable auto download of new versions (seems like the obvious easy solution).
The U2 album removal tool is a result of what happens what public outrage gets loud enough. Obviously hasn't happened with iOS device users.
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Your arguments comparing iOS devices to Macs or PCs is void. Those devices permit installation of older OS versions. iOS devices explicitly prohibit it.
I strongly believe that Apple should not be updating iPad 2s to iOS 8 when they run it this badly. The glitches are completely unacceptable.
My keyboard keeps disappearing, or it covers the text and I have to reposition the keyboard to get the text to scroll into the right place. Sending a multi line message in iMessage when you have a split keyboard open causes the content to scroll in the background and the keyboard then blocks the bottom of the text window.
How could these things have passed testing if it's not planned obsolescence? You telling me a professional team of software developers didn't try using iMessage with a split keyboard? If so then I'm seriously worried about their ability to test more important issues such as security.
I wouldn't expect Yosemite to work on an Apple II but I bet it won't! Not only did iOS 8 install to my iPad 2, it was downloaded automatically and sat there dormant using up what little space I've got on this thing.
Its obviously both. Newly written software should not be optimized to run on completely obsolete hardware...it should be optimized to run on the absolute latest hardware. If were managing that division I wouldn't have it any other way.
It also does not hurt to have people motivated to update their older hardware, because they want a device designed to power the new feature they're after.
Yes, it is planned obsolescence, but its also BETTER for all than the alternative. AKA no innovation, no cutting edge features, no improvements year after year.
I don't give much consideration to people who kick and scream that their obsolete hardware doesn't run the latest software as well as the latest hardware. You'd be kicking and screaming just as much if Apple cut off the iPad 2 from iOS 8. I don't care if your iPad is only 3 years old....thats obsolete in the tech world.
(side note: the only reason iPad 2 is allowed to run iOS 8 is because it remained available for sale as new device up until only a few short months ago. Apple wants to make sure buyers in the last 12 months all receive at least 1 OS upgrade. That said, if you were OK with how iOS 7 ran on iPad 2 (IMO, unusably bad) then you should be fine with it on iOS 8, at there should not be much difference. If it seems like there is, restore it)
So... Upgrade? Buy something else? Apple supports its products longer than most manufacturers. If they didn't, they'd get crap for that too.
Stuff gets old. iPad2 feels like it's from 1999. I know they just stopped selling it, but that's a testament to how good it WAS.
At most, after selling the iPad2 you'd need a couple hundred bucks to upgrade. If that's out of your comfort zone, save until it's not. If you can't, consider selling the iPad2 and prioritizing.
As someone who always gets the latest anyway I've never had to worry about legacy updates. If I did though I'm sure I'd be able to take the hint:
APPLE WANTS YOUR MONEY
It's entirely up to you if I you spend it on them, but they made no promises on the usable lifespan of a device. Frankly, it's amazing it stayed supported this long.
If ios8 is too slow, it's time to make a decision. Apple thinks you'll stay anyway. Me too.
Stuff gets old. iPad2 feels like it's from 1999. I know they just stopped selling it, but that's a testament to how good it WAS.
At most, after selling the iPad2 you'd need a couple hundred bucks to upgrade. If that's out of your comfort zone, save until it's not. If you can't, consider selling the iPad2 and prioritizing.
As someone who always gets the latest anyway I've never had to worry about legacy updates. If I did though I'm sure I'd be able to take the hint:
APPLE WANTS YOUR MONEY
It's entirely up to you if I you spend it on them, but they made no promises on the usable lifespan of a device. Frankly, it's amazing it stayed supported this long.
If ios8 is too slow, it's time to make a decision. Apple thinks you'll stay anyway. Me too.
Why are so many people failing to get it? It's Apple's "support" that is crippling the devices. These are not free gifts from on high. The upgrades are far from optional. Our arms are being twisted, and when we give in we suddenly have people like you shrugging and saying, buy a knew one. How much more sheep-like can you people get?
Why can't we just use our devices, with the fluidity and stability they had on day one, for 3 years, 4 years, or right up until the hardware finally fails? Why do why have to tolerate Cupertino HQ dialling in and remote bricking it when they decide our time is up? And why do we get people who are being equally exploited, speaking up in some kind of weird defence? We get that there are newer faster machines, but again, that doesn't mean old ones suddenly have to go slower.
As you mentioned, the iPad 2 was on sale a few short months ago. Completely obsolete, it is not. Its just going to cause frustration with people who are not as inclined to upgrade hardware frequently (like my mother). Its not right cause people's devices to lose functionality with a software update. There are millions still in use.
Please explain, because that statement makes no sense? My iPad 3 is still running iOS 5 quite happily btw, my iPad 2 was not forced any upgrades and I chose iOS 7 but decided against iOS 8 and my Air is still running iOS 7. Nothing has been forced on any of my iPad's. I upgrade when I want to.
They are not optional? So the upgrades are forced on you? Explain how my rmini iPad hasn't been forced to 8.0 yet. Why hasn't it been forced on me? (No, it's not jailbroken either)
You upgraded your device. Probably because you wanted to be the first to have the new thing. You should have waited to see what other people thought after they made the upgraded before you took the plunge yourself.
If someone told you to jump off a cliff, would you do it?
This is the kind of delusional self entitlement that makes these threads funny every year.
Absolutely, that mix of having no clue about how to do basic functions then blaming Apple, too funny. If storage is a problem why not just plug it in to your computer and update that way? Those complaining about Apple is the only one not allowing old software LOL. I too have never had an update install on IOS without me clicking a box.
Well, we could all demand that Apple never improve anything in future versions of their products, no faster CPUs, no more storage, no more memory, no better graphics or display technology, then in that world your iPad 2 would be perfect forever. Too bad Apple products last nearly forever I guess.
U missed the point entirely idiot. Readin comprehension; go back to school (or more likely try to pay more attention in class, at 8th grade English).
Nothin was said about improving things in the future. Obviously. The point of what was stated is try not to get close to brickin a useful tool someone already bought a couple years ago. what was a very popular product.
u wrote an entire NOVEL, while ignoring the fact that users arent given a choice or allowed to downgrade on iOS. OP compared it to 5 so its likely that was his prior OS, and even if it wasnt he wont be able to downgrade back to 7 much longer followin Apples track record. Why cant they just continue allowing people to use any OS back to the version it shipped on like 99% of other OS?
If Apples philosophy is the user often doesnt know whats best for them, but Apple does (a philosophy i tend to agree on) - why force ios 7 and 8 on them when, according to u, it is unusably bad? At this point one could reason no one can efficiently decide for everyone whats best here due to compatibility. this doesnt just matter for legacy hardware, but also if you simply want to jailbreak. Forget that a product officially sold a few months ago is hardly "legacy".
Talk about how i mentioned jailbreakin now and that its not supported.
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is this sarcasm? I hope.
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another person wasting space in the thread ignoring the inability to downgrade; a crucial point basic to ur entire thesis, whose absence heavily undermines it. OP doesnt ****in want iOS 8 because of its currently iffy nature on his device that doesnt have the excess hardware to compensate. OP would not be complainin about it if he could just revert back, cause then he would look like u (a fool) or be wastin his time on Earth being a troll. Hence "planned obsolescence". what do u not get?
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On a Mac, it is possible to roll back your operating system to an earlier version, although it's not particularly easy.
On an iOS device, it seems it is rather difficult to roll back to iOS 7.1. And rolling back further to iOS 6 seems to be so difficult to the point of being practically impossible. So I would expect that rolling back to iOS 7.1 may become impossible too very soon, if it isn't already.
I must state my amusement of the complete lack of reading comprehension in this thread. It's not that people are complaining that iOS 8 doesn't run well on their old device, it's that they can't roll back to an earlier system that did. And also that iOS 8 may (if it doesn't already, some posters find that it does) download automatically with no user input, LIKE iOS 7 DID LAST YEAR. And if it does, it may be difficult to delete it, and get back at least a gigabyte of space.
Then again, I'm not sure why I'm bothering to write this, as anyone who didn't make the effort to read the original post is hardly going to bother to read mine.
On an iOS device, it seems it is rather difficult to roll back to iOS 7.1. And rolling back further to iOS 6 seems to be so difficult to the point of being practically impossible. So I would expect that rolling back to iOS 7.1 may become impossible too very soon, if it isn't already.
I must state my amusement of the complete lack of reading comprehension in this thread. It's not that people are complaining that iOS 8 doesn't run well on their old device, it's that they can't roll back to an earlier system that did. And also that iOS 8 may (if it doesn't already, some posters find that it does) download automatically with no user input, LIKE iOS 7 DID LAST YEAR. And if it does, it may be difficult to delete it, and get back at least a gigabyte of space.
Then again, I'm not sure why I'm bothering to write this, as anyone who didn't make the effort to read the original post is hardly going to bother to read mine.
It doesn't install automatically but it does get downloaded to the device. When you only have a 16GB tablet, space is in short supply so having a 1GB+ update sitting there is not ideal.
People on this forum have gone as far as to suggest blocking the Apple software update servers in the router to prevent these updates being downloaded automatically.
All I'm saying is, let me download the software update when and if I want it. That way I can read reviews from others who have installed it and decide whether or not I want it.
I would rather Apple didn't release iOS 8 for the iPad 2 than release it in the state it's in.
Works fine on my iPad mini 1st generation
I believe (am pretty sure) that the iPad Mini first generation is the same as the iPad 2 only smaller and the update works fine (even well) on it. I found my Mini slower with more crashes before I upgraded. Maybe in a few days I'll feel differently - but right now I'm glad I updated to IOS 8 and yes, my iPad asked me if I wanted to and then downloaded it.
I believe (am pretty sure) that the iPad Mini first generation is the same as the iPad 2 only smaller and the update works fine (even well) on it. I found my Mini slower with more crashes before I upgraded. Maybe in a few days I'll feel differently - but right now I'm glad I updated to IOS 8 and yes, my iPad asked me if I wanted to and then downloaded it.
You can restore to iOS 7.1.2 right now. It's still being signed. No one knows how long you have to do it. But if you want to do it, I would suggest doing it NOW. The signing window has been open way longer than apple has ever left it open after a major release and will probably be closed soon.
So stop crying and downgrade your devices to 7.1.2 while you still can and your problem is solved.
You can't restore to iOS 6 because it's not signed anymore - keep dreaming.
Also note: Your device is never automatically updated - YOU have to click ok to start the upgrade process.
So stop crying and downgrade your devices to 7.1.2 while you still can and your problem is solved.
You can't restore to iOS 6 because it's not signed anymore - keep dreaming.
Also note: Your device is never automatically updated - YOU have to click ok to start the upgrade process.
I could comfortably buy an iPad with a month's wages but that has nothing to do with what's being discussed here.
The point is that my iPad ran great when I first got it, when it ran iOS 5, and it has got steadily slower with each update. 'don't upgrade' you might say, which is all well and good, but the iPad downloads the software update automatically and there's no built in method to stop it from doing so.
Essentially I have to install the update to get the space back otherwise it will just redownload ad infinitum.
Yosemite runs perfectly fine on my 2009 MacBook. 5 year old machine tha I have no reason to upgrade as it's still going strong.
More than I can say for the 3year old iPhone 4s users on iOS 8
The update downloads automatically...it doesn't install automatically but the download sits there using up space.
Why is this so hard to get?
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To anyone who is STILL confused:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4623
"Updates might download automatically while your device is connected to Wi-Fi and a power source."
Also - LOL, LOL @ comparin iOS 8 on an iPad 2 vs OSX Yosemite on an Apple 2. Not to mention the iPad 2 was only sold a few months ago, not a few DECADES ago.