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iPad Apple's planned obsolescence is a joke
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Nope. Because regardless of the few people that will piss and moan on forums, most people will just take it as a sign that it's time to upgrade... More money.
You might not like it, but I do... Its brilliant. Plus i know too many people that are so anti tech on the outside, yet secretly love every little feature they've been shown/introduced to, they would stubbornly sit on their out of date device forever, rather than admit they would actually enjoy some of the features of newer devices. Planned obsolescence does a great job of getting them to upgrade.
They'll just do the same thing they did with iOS 7 on the iPhone 4. Ran terribly until 7.1 made some improvement. In the meantime enough people jump ship to a newer device.
I totally agree with OP, but it's just good business practices on Apple's part. The iOS devices are too long lasting when compared to PCs and Macs. They're too reliable, so wise business practices is to make them appear slower over time.
Bottom line is NO ONE would have room to complain if Apple allowed for people to revert to previous iOS versions; but they don't. Forced auto downloading of install files is the nail in the coffin for many users.
I have an iPad 3 on iOS 5. iOS's prior to 7 will auto download while plugged in over WiFi & hold several GB hostage unless you upgrade - with no way for the user to get rid of the download.
I manage to prevent the auto download by artificially filling up my iPad's storage all the way, leaving less than 100MB available. It's a pain, but that's the price for Apple's stupid policy of supporting older devices poorly - they should either do it right, or leave us alone.
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Why would there be no way for the user to get rid of the download? You can delete it in settings>general>usage>storage. I deleted it from my wife's iPad mini when I read about the performance. No one forced me to update.
You can do that in iOS 7 onwards... the unzipped auto-download does not show up in "Usage" in iOS 5. It just sits dark and unseen, reducing available storage for the user by the size of the auto download (~4GB). No way to see/ identify / delete that auto-downloaded package once it gets on your machine.
But it won't auto download if you turn off that feature in the iOS 7 settings. It's in the App Store setting on your iPad. I turned off all "automatic downloads for both apps and iOS".
The only other way the iPad will accept auto download is if the iPad is plugged in and there is an internet connection. Apart from that my iPad 2/3/Air have not received an iOS 8 request.
OMG!!!... I think I have mentioned three times in as many posts that I am trying to keep iOS 5
I would expect most people upgrading to iOS 8 to come from iOS 7.
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OMG!!!... I think I have mentioned three times in as many posts that I am trying to keep iOS 5
Ah, my bad. You see? You should have upgraded to iOS 7...
I would expect most people upgrading to iOS 8 to come from iOS 7.
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Ah, my bad. You see? You should have upgraded to iOS 7...
I usually keep iDevices with the iOS that they originally shipped with, sometimes upgrade it by one subsequent iOS. Newer iOS's slow down older devices and Apple does not allow many of the latest and greatest features on older devices anyways. So, I do not see much upside to upgrading.
As you said, things have indeed gotten easier since iOS 7, but I will still have to fight to keep auto-downloads off my older devices until I eventually run them into the ground and upgrade the hardware.
Alright, for those that still refuse to see it, here's a few examples regarding the update from iOS6 to iOS7. (ignoring the forced download which hasn't happened to me this time).
Facetime: FaceTime broke for iPhone4's around the time of iOS7's release. Apple's advice, just upgrade to 7. A couple of months later FaceTime broke again, this time for a wider range of devices, including those running 7. Apple developed a fix for iOS6 and 7, but didn't openly release the iO6 fix. Anyone using FaceTime had little choice but to update.
Goto Fail: If it weren't for the Heartbleed thing, this could have been the biggest security screw-up of the year. Failing to validate SSL certificates is a major, major bug. Again Apple fixed it in iO6 and 7 but withheld the fix from those unwilling to upgrade. Anyone needing security on the internet had little choice but to update.
iWork: Watch the exact same thing happen again this year. iWork apps got an update at the time of iOS7's release. iOS6 no longer supported. iWork on Mac got an update with Mavericks. Mountain Lion no longer supported. Finally iWork on iCloud got an update that shut out all older versions of the phone and desktop apps. Anyone who updated to Mavericks and previously used iCloud to sync documents had little choice but to update to iOS7.
Face it guys, iOS7 as of now, is dead to Apple. They will hobble your services, disable features you paid for and leave you exposed to critical security problems unless you update. How anybody refuses to accept that as being 'forced' to update I really can't understand.
You must be an Apple shareholder as nobody else would give a damn whether users with old devices upgrade or not.
The way Apple forces the update to download is bad for consumers.
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There is no setting to turn off software updates.* There's an option to turn off app updates.
* unless the option to turn off automatic app updates also turns off automatic firmware updates but there's nothing in the settings app to indicate that to be the case.
Agree. There are some functions that do add to the CPU load, such as the new predictive. Turn that and others off. Ive noticed settings change after an update, BT on, etc, might pay for iPad 2 users to check all this in case some CPU intensive one can be turned off.
Still the same process. Maybe folks are accepting the update by hitting "install" unconsciously (?)
It wouldn't matter if you posted that 10 times. There are those who go with the flow of the way of the Apple and that's it... no critical thinking required.OMG!!!... I think I have mentioned three times in as many posts that I am trying to keep iOS 5
We've had this same discussion at nauseating length last year with the release of iOS 7. Back then, most didn't "get it". Even so, Apple DID respond by giving iOS 7 (and up) the ability to delete the downloaded installer. That does no good for people sticking with an earlier version of iOS.
Apple does all it can to convince/force users to upgrade. It's a one way street. Can't kick-the-tires and decide to go back. That is why Apple needs to be conservative in what devices they allow to upgrade.
Apple apologists will reply with the old straw man that people would complain if they couldn't upgrade their older devices... which of course is not true (or no where to the level of those who have reluctantly upgraded)... how many people with iPhone 4's are complaining that they can't get iOS 8?
It has been a long battle to get a small common sense concession from Apple (delete downloaded installer)... but I suspect that there will be a growing number of iPad owners who will switch platforms rather than fight again.
I turn on Airplane Mode when my iPad is charging overnight. That's the only time it is ever plugged in. Nothing gets downloaded.
It's an iPad2 and I've no plans to update it right now. Will wait and see what iOS 8.1 brings.
It's an iPad2 and I've no plans to update it right now. Will wait and see what iOS 8.1 brings.
the iPad 2 and Apple automatically downloading the update and practically forcing users to install it is a sly move to get them to upgrade.
How hard is it to get that since 7.1 you can delete the downloaded update under usage.
I'm not so sure to be honest maybe if you delete once it won't redownload. I have never tried since I'm the type of guy the loves to update ASAP.
Double check your settings because there are 3 that can be turned off.
Settings -> iTunes & App Store -> 1) Music 2) Apps 3) *Updates* .
Are you plugged in/charging and internet connection enabled? Those 2 conditions will cause an automatic download of a Safari update for malware sites and an OS update if it's available.