You are right, as usual.No doubt.
I was just indicating to the poster that some of the same types challenges exist for Apple.
You are right, as usual.No doubt.
I was just indicating to the poster that some of the same types challenges exist for Apple.
5G to 4G is a much a much more important upgrade than 4G to 3G ever was. Back then, there was barely any smartphone or data use (social media was still small beer and virtually no streaming) and so for the vast majority it was barely noticeable. Today, we have a totally connected, always online world and 5G will be key. You might not “need” 5G on a phone, but I for one would “like” a 5G tethering hotspot on my phone as 99% of my data consumption is by this means and when you live out in the sticks and don’t have access to high-speed fibre, 5G is going to be very important.
Ever been in a football stadium at half time and had basically no service because 10’s of thousands are trying to look at the same sport website at the same time, well that will no longer be an issue (...unless of course your stuck on LTE)
Come back with at least one fact and we can have an intelligent discussion. Until then, hate on.Keep drinking the Kool Aid, brah
Is that a fact? No it's not.The number of people jumping ship over 5G would be negligible.
5G is offered on different frequencies. Yes, MMwave 5G doesn’t travel far, doesn’t penetrate well, but Sub 6 GHz travels much further, penetrates much more effectively and will be the backbone of a lot of 5G networks.
Is that a fact? No it's not.
What we know is that carriers will promote 5G like crazy and most of the interested Apple users will be told for at least a year that there's no phone from Apple that supports 5G. Without a doubt this will affect Apple negatively.
Is that a fact? No it's not.
What we know is that carriers will promote 5G like crazy and most of the interested Apple users will be told for at least a year that there's no phone from Apple that supports 5G. Without a doubt this will affect Apple negatively.
I disagree with you. If you had said that wireless companies are rapidly building out major metropolitan centers, I would concur. Reality is LTE is still spotty in its coverage across the nation. Forget the wireless companies self serving coverage maps, the coverage is just not there. I speak from personal experience where 3G is the base and 4G available if you are are near the one tower that was finally upgraded. By the time 5G is available to all, the state of the art will be 9G. It is not evil intent but economics, still knowing does not help the disappointment.The wireless carriers are rapidly building out their 5G networks but it seems the phone technology isn't keeping up.
5G on phones is not a big improvement. LTE is fast enough. Can you afford more data on your cellular plan? In Canada, it's $25 per GB for data, the base price for calling and texting for Canada nation-wide is around $50
By the time 5G is available to all, the state of the art will be 9G
5G roll out will also ONLY be in dense population areas. Everywhere else it will stay 4G.
5G might be SLIGHTLY faster at the same frequencies as 4G - but nothing ground breaking.
One mobile generation has lived long, see the 1G (1981) was the original one without data at all, and 2G data was only 9600 baud connection (1991). It took until 1998 to first test the 3G network and 2008 to test the 4G network -- so if it takes a decade to go one generation up what you are saying 5G is mainstream in 2050's.
I'm not talking about users that would not switch anyway. Not every single iphone user is dedicated and loyal Apple fan.I don't think people will switch to Android for that reason alone, but many may stick with their old iPhones for another year waiting for 5G, not as bad as losing a customer over Android but still less phones sold.
No it doesn't.History tells us that it’ll barely affect iPhone sales.
Sure, and the flip side is the masses may elect not to move to another phone manufacturer because they believe apple is the best for them. It's not an all or nothing and churn is inevitable.I'm not talking about users that would not switch anyway. Not every single iphone user is dedicated and loyal Apple fan.
Not every single person believes Apple deserves their patience and trust.
Yes it does. There will be those who will switch due to a cell phone plan, but then again given the random nature of people, nobody knows how this will shake out. My guess, apple won't lose a beat.No it doesn't.
Might not be that important for stuff done on the phone directly but still you can tether the phone to a MacBook when WiFi isn’t available.
I’m fine with LTE for now. It’s not like i can do anything useful in the phone form factor with near-gigabit internet anyway.
That’s an awful lot of “might”Actually there might be a much higher data cap or even no data cap at all with 5g if you have unlimited plan.. so there is that which would be the most beneficial for us all.. It basically means they won’t throttle down your connection to snail speeds when or if you go over a your limit of data for the month..
Yes, but almost 3 years behind? Besides, the demand for smartphones wasn't nearly as high as it is now, not exactly the most fair comparison. People expect the latest tech as soon as possible in today's market.
Steve never said it 2G was better than 3G on the original iPhone. What he said was that the 3G chips available at the time were consuming too much power and 3G was not full roll out yet. This was true by the way. People were disconnecting 3G on their Android device as the battery was gone in 4 hours.Don't worry, Apple will tell us 4G is better than 5G, and you'll eat it up.
It's not like they haven't done that before. Remember the original iPhone? Yeah, I already had a 3G phone when it came out. Steve told us how much better it was that it only did 2G. Steve lied.
But they didn't just pull that stunt once. Remember when the new iPhone 4S came out? Sure, Samsung had a 4G LTE phone out a year earlier, but Steve told us it was better to not have LTE. It took two years after the first LTE phones were out before Apple had a LTE iPhone with the 5.
So now 5G will slip at least another year, Apple will tell us it's better to not have it, and you'll eat it up.
And Apple will be lying yet again.
Well yeah it’s hard to know how long it will take for 5G to even be a thing. Apple might well be behind android in other areas but 5G is not one where it will matter just yet.They aren't 3 years behind.
2019 will only have some early adopter 5G special versions of flagships that use an additional dedicated 10nm modem just for 5G which greatly reduces battery life. Going for 5G in 2019 is stupid, all manufacturers are aware of it, that's why they are just testing the waters.
2020 is going to be the start of major Android flagships rolling out with 5G directly integrated into 7nm+ SoCs.
With first Android flagships usually coming out in march, even 2021's iPhone would only be 1.5 years late.
What makes you think a company with zero modem building experience will come-up with a top class product?
They aren't 3 years behind.
2019 will only have some early adopter 5G special versions of flagships that use an additional dedicated 10nm modem just for 5G which greatly reduces battery life. Going for 5G in 2019 is stupid, all manufacturers are aware of it, that's why they are just testing the waters.
2020 is going to be the start of major Android flagships rolling out with 5G directly integrated into 7nm+ SoCs.
With first Android flagships usually coming out in march, even 2021's iPhone would only be 1.5 years late.