I doubt this would be the same in Europe as Android is very popular with younger people here. The iPhone is a lot more popular among Americans in general.
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Apple's Popularity With Gen Z Poses Challenges for Android
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just realize that no one young wants to talk to a green bubble. it's really not that hard.
don't cry to apple for not supporting RCS messaging when google had YEARS to come up with an imessage competitor and they all FLOPPED.
In Europe WhatsApp is the king of messaging and you’ll find most iPhone users use it for group messaging. The green bubble thing is an American trend I think as I’ve never heard of it being looked down upon. iMessage is of course used, but not to the extent WhatsApp is and especially by young people. It’s also a much better messaging app for groups which is why it’s popular, plus Android uses it too.
Sure, if I was professionally printing the pictures. But why bother if I'm just sending them to only be viewed on other people's phones? Although I will say you have a point with a zoom lens, that's why I can't wait for a periscope lens phone. But other than wishing I had more zoom I don't really see the point of lugging around another kit of electronics. Plus it doesn't resolve the issue of video, which is mainly what I use. I'm definitely not going to lug around a pro camera and a video cam.
What a clickbait article. Who the hell cares what Gen Z will use? Android and iOS are two established platforms, neither are going away.
Are you winding people up here for fun? I can’t work out if you’re being serious or you’re sarcastically mocking the iPhone snobs even iPhone users like us take the piss out of and dislike?
Honestly, for Android users, it actually is a benefit and acts as a filter. I am a social person, and I have many friends who have iPhones and Androids. We all communicate with each other just fine. Having an Android I was able to be engaged twice, marry once, date plenty of women, move up a corporate ladder and branch out to my own business, and nobody that I have cared to carry on a social relationship with has ever mentioned it. When I would message a girl on an app and we'd transition to text, if she made a comment about the bubble, that was the flag to me to let me know this girl didn't value actual human traits and it was useful. So, I guess in the same way that it "works" for you to let you know I am a social outcast, it lets me know that I probably don't care to form a meaningful relationship with you.
My carrier Canada, the deals use to be even better, 4-5 years ago I picked up iphone 8's for 10$ a month on a 24 month term and got a $400 giftcard, I had 2 lines and upgraded both twice. cost me 240$ x 4 plus tax but I got 1600$ in Walmart gift cards. Unfortunately that loophole closed, the last upgrade before the loophole closed was my S10E in 2019, after the S10E I went back to iOS in 2021.
As for my most recent deals, I pick those up 2 black Fridays ago, my carrier had a 1$ a month deal on used phones I picked up the iphone 12, within hours they were all sold out, then I upgraded the kids phones later on. This past black Friday the deals were cold so I bought nothing, plus there is a penalty if you upgrade early so the wallet was saved this past holiday season.
Trust me dandy, nobody cares to be in your group chats.
There's a carrier called "Canada", or you mean a carrier in Canada?
Unless you experienced all those romantic and professional developments in a very short timeframe within somewhat recent history, you are not of the generation I am referring to. This largely does not affect the means by which you and your peers have relied on to socialize. If I had to guess, you may have been part the AIM generation. And the equivalent of this is if there was that one kid in school who insisted on using IRC. Probably very nice, maybe even very fun to get along with in person. But nobody is going out of their way to interact with them.
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I was a bit confused with the blue bubble/green bubble talk so I opened the conversation I was having with the man who takes care of my lawn. I knew he wasn’t using an iPhone. A member of the family confirmed that the bubbles I thought were red are actually green. I am rather severely red/green color blind.
I was a bit confused with the blue bubble/green bubble talk so I opened the conversation I was having with the man who takes care of my lawn. I knew he wasn’t using an iPhone. A member of the family confirmed that the bubbles I thought were red are actually green. I am rather severely red/green color blind.
this article is about american young people
found the android user 🤣
I would say that it is Apple that is screwing over group chats by their refusal to integrate RCS into Messages.
Also, a Galaxy S23 is miles better than a 6S. LOL I cannot believe that someone is this brainwashed.
nah, google had years to come up with a viable competitor and now they need apple to bail them out with RCS
can you airdrop me that photo on a galaxy s23? "sorry can u give me ur email instead"
can you facetime me? "sorry here's a google meet link"
can you stop breaking the group chats? "sorry can we use whatsapp instead"
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nah, google had years to come up with a viable competitor and now they need apple to bail them out with RCS
can you airdrop me that photo on a galaxy s23? "sorry can u give me ur email instead"
can you facetime me? "sorry here's a google meet link"
can you stop breaking the group chats? "sorry can we use whatsapp instead"
Or just use WhatsApp like every does and text a picture that way
. Cross platform and handles group chats way better than iMessage.
this article is about american young people
found the android user
It is indeed about young people and children by the looks of some of the responses on this thread.
Ok, but what if you kept the phone for 4 years? I've got a 12 pro and I'm thinking of skipping the 15pro even. We will however upgrade my wife's 11 pro this year. I've found these pro phones really hold up. Also, I spend a lot more money per month on my cell plan vs the phone itself. Phone hardware even at iphone pro levels isn't really that much $$. It's like when people try to price shop on printer paper when their ink/toner costs a lot more per page no matter what. You're saving money in the wrong place.Ok so you can afford to break 2 android handsets then
I usually run on a TCO costing for devices anyway over 24 months
(initial_cost - resale_value) / 24 = monthly_tco
iPhone 13 Pro 256Gb (mine): (1338 - 550) / 24 = £32.83/month with resale and AC
iPhone 13 Pro 256Gb (mine): (1338 - 0) / 24 = £55.75/month with write off and no AC
iPhone 13: (838 - 300) / 24 = £22.42/month with resale and AC
iPhone 13: (699 - 0) / 24 = £29.13/month assuming write off and no AC
Pixel 6A: (277 - 85) / 24 = £8/month
Pixel 6A: (277 - 0) / 24 = £11.54/month with write off
Honestly I've got to ask myself: Am I getting 4.1x the value from my iPhone 13 Pro vs a Pixel 6A every month. The answer is probably no.
If the Apple device was HALF the current price it'd be a no brainer.
If I sell my entire Apple portfolio of stuff at the moment and get AppleCare refunds, looking at Excel, I will get a return of £4960 in cash. Spend £277 on a Pixel 6A, I'm up 4463. I already have a PC, discussed in another thread which is a nice Lenovo Neo 50s desktop i5-12400 (which I can upgrade to a 13500) which I upgraded to 16Gb of RAM (it'll take up to 64Gb) and a 1TB SSD (which outperforms my MBP) for total £536, and use my old 4K 27" monitor I used with my M1 Mac Mini.
What do I lose? Apple Photos. I use Lightroom anyway. Apple Music. Works on windows and Android anyway. Blue Bubbles? Everyone I know uses WhatsApp.
Come on Apple you're taking the piss with these prices.
Also, keep in mind that your android phone is subsidized by an obfuscated business model. Android itself is "free"; however Google makes a lot of money on it. I find Google operates like a tick. They try to sneak and and suck your blood in a way that you won't notice. Who cares how much Android costs as long as you can't feel it, eh? I've noticed that google now tricks people into using up all their storage via their very easy to use drive app--but then it's actually quite difficult to reverse this. Many people I know just buy the storage rather than go through the headache.
Lastly, I wouldn't care if it did cost more. It's worth more. Would you cut your living standard in half just because it reduced your costs by 4x? I think at some point, you have to realize that living better costs disproportionately more. You can't play the numbers game with everything.
With 4 years and AppleCare you increase your risk exposure. So the moment the AppleCare is up you can at any point incur the entire device's cost again.
My call plan is £10 a month (21GB data, 5G, Unlimited calls and SMS). That's fairly insignificant.
Regarding your business model, this is exactly what all cloud storage providers do. It's the same with Apple, Microsoft, AWS, Azure, everything. If you want cloud storage it costs money.
As for living standards, it takes a lot to do an actual critical evaluation of living standards. What really improves your living standards? Does a singular device or technology really improve it? I can't find any evidence that it does. At best it increases convenience and status, but as for anything really meaningful, nope. What it does is take capital away from things that do improve your living standards such as security and experiences.
They do mention in the last paragraph that a similar trend is occurring among young people in Europe.
I'm not putting google on trial for charging for cloud storage. I'm putting them on trial fort he way they do it. The people in my example who now pay for storage only do so because it locked their e-mail. They didn't even know that their e-mail used the same storage as drive/photos. If it was separate, they'd never have paid. They didn't even care about putting their photos/files on google drive. It's a way Google has tricked people. I don't think there's a scenario where Apple does this.
Your phone plan is a better deal than you'd be able to get in the states, so perhaps this is a different animal. I pay $170/mo for 2 phones.
I've saved the best for last. Applecare is a total waste of money and no one should buy it. It is very expensive relative to the products it covers. Also the common failures are not covered 100%. They have an oppressive deductable that lowers the average ROI.
Example of the 2 most common scenarios when a user buys Applecare plus:
1. User breaks screen during the applecare 2 years. Applecare cost $269, the screen replacement cost $29, so your total cost for applecare+repairs is $299. If you hadn't gotten apple care, you'd have paid $329 for the same repair. So you've only saved $29 total. Remember this
2. User has no incidents. User lost $269 by getting applecareplus.
Now you might say that you save more if you have multiple incidents, other failures, theft, etc; however these happen much less frequently than the first two. If your phone randomly fails for no reason right after the warranty and Apple won't do anything for you, just pay for it. **** happens, but over a lifetime, you're still paying less than all that AppleCare+.
Ok, what if you're really clumsy/irresponsible and break your phone a lot? Get a better case.
A wise move. I do the same as part of the value proposition.
If you do a 13 with no AC and resale value, which is comparable to your 6A estimate since it does not include Applecare:
699-300=399 divided by 24 is 16.65 per month, about double the same 6A cost in your calculations.
With AppleCare and breakage replacing a 13 would be $699+149 plus repair costs of $29/99/299 depending on the damage. Or 877/947/1147 so over 24 months 36/39/48; with your pixel numbers 2 phones would be $23; again anywhere from 1.5 to about ~2x.
Is it worth double? Depends on what the buyer values and risk tolerance.
AppleCare is renewable after the initial period or in the case of month to month continues until canceled.