I don't think the average Samsung phone selling price is too much higher than the average Android phone selling price. Maybe 10%? Still much lower than the average iPhone price. Samsung sells a lot of phones at the lower end (their "A" line).
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I don't think the average Samsung phone selling price is too much higher than the average Android phone selling price. Maybe 10%? Still much lower than the average iPhone price. Samsung sells a lot of phones at the lower end (their "A" line).
Seems to be about $300 per device versus about $250 for all Android phones. That suggests they're selling a lot more of the non-flagship ones.
And yo can drown an army in river whose average depth is 3 inches. Averages have a lot of flaws. In this case you are comparing two vastly different populations. As a result, the average is meaningless for drawing conclusions other than there are a lot of cheap Android sold.
Apple has never gone after the low end in any market; not enough profit and margin.
Let's compare its 5G perfromance, NFC payment capabilities, oh that's right, it doesn't have it. Add in a middling camera and sound output and you get what you pay for.
It's a matter of network effects - most people will use the app most people use, whether iMessage in the US or something else elsewhere.
I'm sorry to say that this includes me.
Although I have never had any 'social pressure' to buy an iPhone. I just wanted a phone that works like a tool. Of course, I don't live in the US so WhatsApp is king and it doesn't matter what phone you use.
Besides, when I was still in school most kids were more busy trying to finish homework or mess around than bullying someone for choosing the 'wrong' phone.
Although I have never had any 'social pressure' to buy an iPhone. I just wanted a phone that works like a tool. Of course, I don't live in the US so WhatsApp is king and it doesn't matter what phone you use.
Besides, when I was still in school most kids were more busy trying to finish homework or mess around than bullying someone for choosing the 'wrong' phone.
Yes. As I mentioned, Samsung seems to sell a lot of their lower end "A-line" phones.
Another thing worth noting is that Android phone makers like Samsung, Motorola, Google, Nokia, etc. tend to be much quicker to discount (helping to bring down average selling prices) while Apple doesn't usually discount until the phone has been on the market for a year or more.
For example, the Google Pixel 7 launched in October and has already been on sale several times since ($100 off Pixel 7 bringing it down to $499 and $150 off Pixel 7 Pro bringing it down to $749). Similar is true for the Pixel 6a which launched in July and has been on sale several times for as little as $299 ($150 off).
I'm glad to hear that your 10-year-old's making decisions about what would be a better option. She's acting like an adult there, far too many adults act like children! This is a sign that your daughtor will be a grown-up when she grows-up.
Nah I don't think it's Apple's fault. They saw how the carriers were squeezing consumers and came up with their own messaging system which is phenomenal. It's not their fault that the carriers were greedy and abandoned RCS. With that said Apple clearly has a chance to do the world a solid by opening up their platform. Sure Apple, on paper, has zero social responsibility and 100% responsibility only to its shareholders, and that responsibility is to make money. It's up to society to decide if companies like Apple should have some societal responsibility, and in this case personally I think they do. Why not Google? Why not the carriers? I get it, they should all be responsible as well, but the reality is that the only company that has been able to make this work has been Apple.
Anyway just my pie in the sky take on it, the reality is that Apple will never open up iMessage unless they see it making them more money than keeping it walled away would. That's fine as well, that's why a subscription might make more sense like Apple Music and Apple TV, but keeping it free for Apple hardware owners.
No when they break one or get a problem they get repair bill that's the same price as an Android phone so they go and buy an Android phone then spend the rest of their life an opponent of Apple.
Apple stuff is really expensive to buy, repair and insure as a rule. I mean my desktop PC didn't cost a lot more than twice the AppleCare for my M1 MBP
Everyone is really feeling the financial pressure here due the economic and political situation. That directly leads to people being risk averse and spending money is a risk at the moment.
U could but then again you're probably too busy on social media for any real personal interaction.
Some pricing comments in this thread:
Google Pixel 6A is functionally equivalent to an iPhone 13 at the moment.
iPhone 13 is £699 still. Risk profile for an iPhone 13 is mitigated for 2 years for £139. Total spend £838.
Pixel 6A is £277 here.
Can break three Androids in 2 years and break even 🤣
Google Pixel 6A is functionally equivalent to an iPhone 13 at the moment.
iPhone 13 is £699 still. Risk profile for an iPhone 13 is mitigated for 2 years for £139. Total spend £838.
Pixel 6A is £277 here.
Can break three Androids in 2 years and break even 🤣
Depends on why your 11-year-old says that iPhones are the best. Does he say it becuase of advantages iOS has over Android (such as securty)? Or does he just say it because it's popular to say it?
If your kid has actueal reasions for prefering iOS: That's a good sign. But if he dosen't, if he seems to like iPhones just because they're populer and the cool kids have them: That's a childish mindset. He's just a kid, so a childish mindset can be forgiven. But he'll need to grow out of that eventually, if he's going to become an adult and not an adult child.
Yeah because carrying around a professional camera at my kids sporting events is feasible, or even makes sense for personal pictures mainly shared through messaging. I think there is a HUGE gap in comparing an iPhone to a professional camera versus comparing an iPhones pictures to a compressed 600kb MMS picture. An iPhone is MORE than enough for my kids sporting events, even if I wanted to print some nice pictures, that's not the issue, it's how terrible those same pictures look after being massively compressed.
And my friends and family enjoy the pictures, but thanks for thinking that they don't.
Actually the only social media I really use are these forums and sometimes Reddit, all the other stuff I don't touch and don't let my kids near it. They will have their own preference and freedoms soon enough, but the longer I keep them off it the better. Our biggest social hour is dinnertime every night with no electronic devices.
Add in resale and numbers differ. Using the Pixel 6, which has lost 4/5 of its value (based on Google’s offer) the6a will be worth 40 in years than 2 years vs the 13’s 1/2 or around 300. Changes the economics a bit.
Don't feel the trolls! If someone who can't even spell the word "you" insults you, he's not worth your time. Just ignore him.
I have been an android user since I replaced my iPhone 4S, only recently have I returned to IOS. The only reason I went back and why I buy my kids iPhones is because they are the best bang for the buck when you get them on black friday. I'm paying $15 Can (11USD ) for an iPhone 13 mini, $10 Can for a 12 Mini, and 1$ for a reconditioned iPhone 12. 3 phones for $26 Canadian ($19USD) a month. I did not put money down and those prices reflex how much I have to pay over the regular plan price, as long as I can keep getting deal like this, I will stay with Apple.
Hmmm...I think this might be a PR buy. The metrics are pretty clear every time they are harvested worldwide. Apple is viewed more and more as an elderly brand due to being debuted in 2006. The Android offers so many options with the yearly slowing down of the device as Apple is notorious for. I use both and love them for different reasons.
Ok so you can afford to break 2 android handsets then
I usually run on a TCO costing for devices anyway over 24 months
(initial_cost - resale_value) / 24 = monthly_tco
iPhone 13 Pro 256Gb (mine): (1338 - 550) / 24 = £32.83/month with resale and AC
iPhone 13 Pro 256Gb (mine): (1338 - 0) / 24 = £55.75/month with write off and no AC
iPhone 13: (838 - 300) / 24 = £22.42/month with resale and AC
iPhone 13: (699 - 0) / 24 = £29.13/month assuming write off and no AC
Pixel 6A: (277 - 85) / 24 = £8/month
Pixel 6A: (277 - 0) / 24 = £11.54/month with write off
Honestly I've got to ask myself: Am I getting 4.1x the value from my iPhone 13 Pro vs a Pixel 6A every month. The answer is probably no.
If the Apple device was HALF the current price it'd be a no brainer.
If I sell my entire Apple portfolio of stuff at the moment and get AppleCare refunds, looking at Excel, I will get a return of £4960 in cash. Spend £277 on a Pixel 6A, I'm up 4463. I already have a PC, discussed in another thread which is a nice Lenovo Neo 50s desktop i5-12400 (which I can upgrade to a 13500) which I upgraded to 16Gb of RAM (it'll take up to 64Gb) and a 1TB SSD (which outperforms my MBP) for total £536, and use my old 4K 27" monitor I used with my M1 Mac Mini.
What do I lose? Apple Photos. I use Lightroom anyway. Apple Music. Works on windows and Android anyway. Blue Bubbles? Everyone I know uses WhatsApp.
Come on Apple you're taking the piss with these prices.
Was it that in those countries there was a charge for sending an text message, and services such as What'sApp were free? The only people I ever get a text message from What'sApp are customers outside of the US and people outside the US trying to sell me something. I mostly ignore anything coming in to What'sApp.
I've recently started carrying my Nikon Z50 around as well as the phone. With the 28mm or 16-50mm lens on it, it fits in my coat pocket. Why? Because the iPhone 13 Pro does an absolutely dire job of some of the photos if you don't use one of the fixed non digital zooms. With the 28mm I can crop down to something usable. With the 16-50 I can usually zoom to it if I need to. That includes taking photos of my somewhat numerous children...
A lot of new camera will send the photo you just took to your phone. You could then text it to the eager friends to see your kids play.
I would think for most sporting events the iPhone with it's wide angle lenses wouldn't get you very close to the action. Wouldn't a telephoto lens work a lot better?