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As if Apple is the only manufacturer updating their line.

Now, for the real question...

Where is the champion Microsoft on the table?

Is this the Microsoft’s heat from the Surface? Are people asking for touchscreens or not? Is a $6 dollar USB-C to USB-A adapter (set of 2 obvs.) from Amazon a problem for people buying $2000 computers?

Don’t tell me Microsoft is having problems making people part with the cash, because Apple, the expensive one, clearly isn’t!
When you count everything in Apple is not that expensive.
 
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I am soooooo excited about the incoming MacBook Pro 15 with 32 GB ram. It has been my dream to have MacBook Pro 15" with 32 GB ram. Finally, my dream is going to come true. Kudos to Apple and thanks so much to Apple for listening the loyal customers. Love Apple!! Apple is the best company with the best and most secured products in the world.


Cue the complaints about weight, heat, and price.....
 
I can see that we're going to be split into 2 camps here:

Apple gained marketshare so the whiners were wrong and the new Macs are the best ever...

or

Everyone else gained marketshare so Apple still failed.

Apple gaining 1% marketshare from last quarter is great, no question, as it is a niche product.

But make no mistake, still 90% of the market chose something else last quarter, and the one before, and the one before...
 
I can see that we're going to be split into 2 camps here:

Apple gained marketshare so the whiners were wrong and the new Macs are the best ever...

or

Everyone else gained marketshare so Apple still failed.

Apple gaining 1% marketshare from last quarter is great, no question, as it is a niche product.

But make no mistake, still 90% of the market chose something else last quarter, and the one before, and the one before...
Make no mistake 90% of those 90% percent weren't made consciously.
 
Still doesn't make me want to buy one of Apples new insanely-overpriced models. When my 2015 (I think) MBP finally stops working I guess I'll have a decision to make. Hopefully that decision doesn't involve a silly emoji bar.

If you don't like the Touch Bar, I understand, but don't deliberately mislabel it. It works with every default app in macOS - including the Terminal! It's hardly completely consumer focused.
 
My biggest problem with the MacBook Pro is price. Then again, the solution my brain pops up with is "Buy a retina MacBook and a powerful iMac!" ... probably cheaper to just buy the MacBook Pro!
 
But make no mistake, still 90% of the market chose something else last quarter, and the one before, and the one before...

They choose something else... in which market segment? In the segments Apple chooses to compete in? Hardly.

Apple is winning hands down in PCs, as it basically owns the only profitable market segment. A 1% market share increase, when the only segment Apple competes in is the high end, is huge in terms of revenue and profits.
 
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They choose something else... in which market segment? In the segments Apple chooses to compete in? Hardly.

Apple is winning hands down in PCs, at it basically owns the only profitable market segment. A 1% market share increase, when the only segment Apple competes in is the high end, is huge in terms of revenue and profits.

Sorry, Apple is losing in the segment they compete in, which is the segment (bundled in by the report) that includes all other PC manufacturers.

But as I indicated in a previous post, this doesn't mean that they're not profitable. It all depends on how you look at these things. From Apple's perspective, the quarter was a success. I said this and don't contest it.

But from an overall perspective, Apple has ALL the way to go. Most people are still choosing something else. Dell, Lenovo, and HP all gained more marketshare on the same quarter than Apple did. Dell gained almost DOUBLE. You can't cherry pick what's reported.

So, as I said before, Apple did good, but others did better.
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No, we are talking about computers that cost 1000+ Eur and no one just buys those randomly. There has to be intent and a reason, whereas pc market is different story.

Hmm, I missed the part in the report that broke the numbers down like that.

How are you getting your numbers?
 
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As someone who owns a 2016 15" rMBP with the TouchBar, the answer to that is still "not much". After the better part of a year, most developers still do have no good ideas how to put that thing to proper use. Even for emojis, you probably are better off to use the old symbol palette.

Seconded it is of very limited use.

Or if you want to use OS X you have no choice but what Apple offers...so you just suck it up and buy the hardware required.

Yep.

I do wonder how these figures would look if developers were allowed to develop for iOS end to end on Windows/Linux. Selling products to a captive audience shouldn't be cause for celebration.
 
They're probably in for another small explosion in sales if/when the Macbook takes over the Air's 999 slot, and the Air goes away in turn.

That's assuming they do that though. I'm not sure if that was the plan, or if they're just trying to push up average selling prices.
 
Sorry, Apple is losing in the segment they compete in, which is the segment (bundled in by the report) that includes all other PC manufacturers.

But as I indicated in a previous post, this doesn't mean that they're not profitable. It all depends on how you look at these things. From Apple's perspective, the quarter was a success. I said this and don't contest it.

But from an overall perspective, Apple has ALL the way to go. Most people are still choosing something else. Dell, Lenovo, and HP all gained more marketshare on the same quarter than Apple did. Dell gained almost DOUBLE. You can't cherry pick what's reported.

So, as I said before, Apple did good, but others did better.
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Hmm, I missed the part in the report that broke the numbers down like that.

How are you getting your numbers?
Use some common sense, dude, and stop that pretend act.
 
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Microsoft killed themselves with the pricing.. their software is nowhere near macOS, even though they've improved it and tried to compensate with aesthetics & hardware paper specs, their products come out flawed and don't last.

Although if you consider that this MB model has just been upgraded and it's relatively new, numbers are still quite poor.
 
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i thought no one was buying high priced new macbooks ?
I bought one - my first MacBook ever, in fact. I came from owning Surfaces for the past few years and smiled every time I saw people complaining they only had 4 Thunderbolt 3 ports when I only had 1 USB-A and a mini display port. :) I'm absolutely loving my MacBook and wish I'd switched a lot sooner.

(First post!)
 
Congrats to Apple I guess. The machines look nice, but they are still 30-40% above the competition on the Windows side. As a user, I'd prefer a different focus than the touch bar, slimness and lack of ports. But I am just one user, and the only thing I can to is to get a Windows machine that has those things I want on my laptop.

I also severely dislikes that the machine with physical buttons, only has 128 gb storage and no upgradeability (?). That is not catering to your userbase imo.
 
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Use some common sense, dude, and stop that pretend act.

Sounds like you should take your own advice, dude, and put the Apple pom-poms down.

The report shows what it shows: 10% Apple, 90% everyone else. Or more specifically, 69.9% for those that are beating Apple in marketshare.

Don't shoot the messenger because you didn't like the message.
 
Dam apple is to proud of a company. I secretly wanted the mac sales to go down that way apple knows we consumers ain't taking their **** with under spec, overpriced laptops. Oh well, I'll try again next year.
Really wanted to replace my 2011 Mbps but I think I'll just change the battery and make it last another year
 
Dam apple is to proud of a company. I secretly wanted the mac sales to go down that way apple knows we consumers ain't taking their **** with under spec, overpriced laptops. Oh well, I'll try again next year.
Really wanted to replace my 2011 Mbps but I think I'll just change the battery and make it last another year
Current laptops are great, i don't know what's the big deal.
 
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Still doesn't make me want to buy one of Apples new insanely-overpriced models. When my 2015 (I think) MBP finally stops working I guess I'll have a decision to make. Hopefully that decision doesn't involve a silly emoji bar.
It does .. it did. It was silly emoji bar or one USB-what port instead of 4, and even worse performance. I got the emoji bar and the feel-less keyboard with arrow keys the size of rice grains. The current macbook pros are awful, they compromise on every facet of usability and I wish they'd never made them and I wish my old MBP hadn't failed to the point it had to be replaced. I have never bought a worse Apple product than the touchbar MBP.
 
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