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Apple's Renewed Focus on iPad Left the Mac Behind This Year
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It's been moving towards this situation a long time now - this isn't anything new.. I all ready smelled it coming half a year ago, suspecting apple pretty much has abandoned the Mac line. I had the iMac 5K Maxed out BTO, but it was throttling and struggling to do all I wanted - despite being the top of the line one. So I started thinking: There's actually not a single product in Apples arsenal I can buy that gives me a more powerful machine and I have NO clue if they will ever release one. So the choice was, sit on the fence and try to accept the limitations from Apple or just sell my iMac and get a PC with the exact internals I want and complete freedom to make my own choices...The decision became pretty clear.
If you are a professional and need more than a limited machine, then leave apple while your wallet is still intact. THe price<->value ratio has gone down the drain on Apple products imho - they are upping the prices and lowering the performance, as if to test how far they can push their customers before they start cathing their hoax (emperors new clothes).
I haven't regret going to windows for a second. You don't need to be all in or not. I will still enjoy my iphone and iPads, my Mac mini and all my other consumer entertaining devices apple make, and Ill still buy new ones as long as Apple manage to innovate (though it seems they are a bit lost on that department as well these days). But Apple as a hardware company for demanding "pro" users are simply gone, in my eyes!
If you are a professional and need more than a limited machine, then leave apple while your wallet is still intact. THe price<->value ratio has gone down the drain on Apple products imho - they are upping the prices and lowering the performance, as if to test how far they can push their customers before they start cathing their hoax (emperors new clothes).
I haven't regret going to windows for a second. You don't need to be all in or not. I will still enjoy my iphone and iPads, my Mac mini and all my other consumer entertaining devices apple make, and Ill still buy new ones as long as Apple manage to innovate (though it seems they are a bit lost on that department as well these days). But Apple as a hardware company for demanding "pro" users are simply gone, in my eyes!
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The Mac Pro still sells at a disgusting $2,999 base price and hasn't been updated at all. Even when it was new, the D300 GPU was already dated crap as its basically a FirePro W5000 card, which is essentially an AMD 7950 (or something close to it)... a card from 2012.
Apple DOES NOT a) care and b) respect it's consumers which is obviously seen with the garbage they've released with the MacBook Pro and that pathetic attempt to sell more licensed 3rd party devices by removing the headphone jack.
Apple DOES NOT a) care and b) respect it's consumers which is obviously seen with the garbage they've released with the MacBook Pro and that pathetic attempt to sell more licensed 3rd party devices by removing the headphone jack.
If they update the iMac in spring next year that's like 90% of their mac users covered, right?
The Air won't get an update, it only exists to fill a price point. Eventually the MacBook and the 13" non-touch-bar MBP will replace it.
Hopefully the Mac Pro's future will become certain: Either updates or discontinued.
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You don't need to buy a licence from Apple to sell third-party wireless headphones. One of my friends got a pair for £20. Sold me on the idea of wireless headphones.
The Air won't get an update, it only exists to fill a price point. Eventually the MacBook and the 13" non-touch-bar MBP will replace it.
Hopefully the Mac Pro's future will become certain: Either updates or discontinued.
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You don't need to buy a licence from Apple to sell third-party wireless headphones. One of my friends got a pair for £20. Sold me on the idea of wireless headphones.
even the updated macbook pro is for some people a downgrade from the 2015 pro. Many issues attributed to either the thiness or just poor QC.
Shame on you Apple. You are destroying your own Mac computers from the to bottom. Mac Pro 2013 is the worst computer and they still didn't even think about updating it at all. Apple will fall apart because of what they had done to themselves.
They have gotten too Corporate and they only focus on the Bottom line To Beat Investor Expections.
Its the reason why they only focus on the iPhone because its there cash cow, Mac does not generate money as most people that buy labtops or desktop, If they do purchase it, They won't upgrade for other 5-7 Years.
Phones people upgrade all the time
Its the reason why they only focus on the iPhone because its there cash cow, Mac does not generate money as most people that buy labtops or desktop, If they do purchase it, They won't upgrade for other 5-7 Years.
Phones people upgrade all the time
Why is everyone upset about this? You guys have to see this from the bright side. Now you can join one of these "Waiting for next gen Mac threads" and have fun waiting with your fellow MacRumors members while Apple releases new watch bands and emojis and get on your nerves by asking "What is a computer?".
Don't forget when he spent an entire year "developing" new watch bands for the now 5% market share Apple Watch.
Macbook Pro - Overpriced, limited ports, underpowered, terrible keyboard, terrible battery life, 16gb ram cap
Mac Pro - lol....weak internals (weaker than my 2012 mac pro)
iMac - Needs update
The average consumer doesn't need the fastest computer to do what the average user does. Even five-year old tech does that quite well. My early-2011 MBP is great with an SSD and 16GB ram. Fast than new.
I am disappointed that Apple's premium price no longer yields a premium experience. The Mac Pro is now an embarrassment after 3 years with no update.
I am disappointed that Apple's premium price no longer yields a premium experience. The Mac Pro is now an embarrassment after 3 years with no update.
This year only eh? iPad sales have slipped for 4+ years and Mac sales has been limp in that time period too. Most models have not seen a significant update in 5 years, and even this years Mac Pro update is questionable as whether its a major update or just another minor revision with an novelty screen glued into it.
Apple bragged about being the post PC era for years now, but really the tablet bubble has burst quickly and more people are moving back to a laptop, and these days they are not Mac Books. We are clearly in the PC Renaissance era and Apple has lost focus years ago about what customers need and want and are failing to deliver a compelling product today. Apple is selling to existing customers that have been desperate for a new update on any Mac product, but Apple is no not able to "convert" PC users over anymore the way they were succeeding at 5 years ago.
Also Apple seems to believe that the tablet is an adequate replacement of a laptop or desktop for pro users, but clearly Apple can't deliver a professional product, instead just offering far too expensive iPad variants that most professionals are passing over, along with Mac's that are clearly not offering what professionals need today. And Apple hasn't released a Mac adequate for gamers at all and even the years revamps are not able to offer the VR/AR requirements that Tim Cook says are so important and exciting for the future.
This is just another reason why Tim Cook has been a lousy CEO for Apple and he clearly is out of his depth, again and again many times over, as he has created a company stuck in the past and stagnant on innovation and unable to meet the demands of customers that are starting to move elsewhere.
Until Apple's board of directors wake up and pull their heads out of their asses, I don't now how many more years of "less then" Apple can endure before they realize that Apple needs a new an exciting CEO that can once again lead the company down paths towards innovation and creating products customers don't even know yet they need and want as opposed to offering products that no longer even meets their expectations.
Apple no longer needs a caretaker, they need a leader with vision and the balls to deliver something NEW. A few months of stellar sales every now and again followed by general consumer apathy cannot support Apple in the long run. Tim Cook has been hiding behind what Steve Jobs has left behind and it is hurting the company significantly. Until this changes, Apple will be a shadow of its former self for years coming.
Apple bragged about being the post PC era for years now, but really the tablet bubble has burst quickly and more people are moving back to a laptop, and these days they are not Mac Books. We are clearly in the PC Renaissance era and Apple has lost focus years ago about what customers need and want and are failing to deliver a compelling product today. Apple is selling to existing customers that have been desperate for a new update on any Mac product, but Apple is no not able to "convert" PC users over anymore the way they were succeeding at 5 years ago.
Also Apple seems to believe that the tablet is an adequate replacement of a laptop or desktop for pro users, but clearly Apple can't deliver a professional product, instead just offering far too expensive iPad variants that most professionals are passing over, along with Mac's that are clearly not offering what professionals need today. And Apple hasn't released a Mac adequate for gamers at all and even the years revamps are not able to offer the VR/AR requirements that Tim Cook says are so important and exciting for the future.
This is just another reason why Tim Cook has been a lousy CEO for Apple and he clearly is out of his depth, again and again many times over, as he has created a company stuck in the past and stagnant on innovation and unable to meet the demands of customers that are starting to move elsewhere.
Until Apple's board of directors wake up and pull their heads out of their asses, I don't now how many more years of "less then" Apple can endure before they realize that Apple needs a new an exciting CEO that can once again lead the company down paths towards innovation and creating products customers don't even know yet they need and want as opposed to offering products that no longer even meets their expectations.
Apple no longer needs a caretaker, they need a leader with vision and the balls to deliver something NEW. A few months of stellar sales every now and again followed by general consumer apathy cannot support Apple in the long run. Tim Cook has been hiding behind what Steve Jobs has left behind and it is hurting the company significantly. Until this changes, Apple will be a shadow of its former self for years coming.
thank god i bought a hp z420 right after the mac pro 2013 got announced. Upgradeable in almost every way.. Upgraded the ram chucked in a 780 (now got 48gb of ram up from the 8gb it originally came with) about to get a ssd as well soon.
Mac Pro -- 1,084 days agoThe lack of updates can be at least partially attributed to Apple having to wait on chipmakers and suppliers such as Intel, AMD, and Nvidia, each of which follow their own product roadmaps, although that cannot be the only reason given Skylake processors are now readily available for update-deprived Macs.
Intel, AMD, Nvidia, and most other component manufacturers release new products every year or so.
Intel, AMD, Nvidia, and most other component manufacturers release new products every year or so.
6. Discontinued Airport
The problem isn't that the market is changing based on Microsoft changing the market, it's that the Surface isn't great at being a 2 in 1, a lot of people have said that it's rubbish at being a tablet (compared to the iPad) but it's good at being a full desktop. I think this is the reason why Apple won't do a hybrid of a full OS X in a tablet. They have said previously that it's not a good user experience, they have tested it themselves, so it's an area they have looked into, but the experience isn't as good as they want for us as the user.
Can't we just change the name here from MacRumors Forums to IHateTimCook Forums? It would be more aptly titled.
So little real input other than whining.
I'm not an *Apple Sheep*, I just liked when there were more balanced discussions.
So little real input other than whining.
I'm not an *Apple Sheep*, I just liked when there were more balanced discussions.
- Failing GPUs
- shorter battery life
- lack of USB-A
- buggy/gimmicky touchbar
- need for dongles
- soldered everything which means it's a disposable laptop
- cherry on top: it's also ludicrously expensive.
I'm surprised it's selling at all. The thing is straight garbage.
LMAO! You should apply "OVERPRICED" to just about everything Apple sells. A standard $1000 macbook has the same internals as a $400 PC.
I do give credit to apple for their build quality though. Surface Book is the the only contender build quality
wise.
We need another story on the state of the Mac and the last time certain Macs were updated? Is MR hard up for page views or something?
Let's face it: Apple wants to abandon the Mac Desktop line or the Mac in general on the long run because they see iOS and iPad Pro as the future. That is my impression - but it is strange why they don't discontinue products that are more than two years old (Mac Pro 2013)? The iMac Desktop line is dead. The Mac Mini is dead. This pushed me more and more away from Apple and into the arms of Windows 10 which is flexible enough to run on Desktop and Tablet devices at the same time.
Yeah I read that and thought 'what kind of BS spin is this?' It's dishonest reporting and if it's Apple's excuse, they're lying.
I've an ipad pro 12.9 and really like it but it doesn't come close to being a replacement for a laptop for me and think that's mainly down to how closed iOS is (you can argue understandably so). You have people who manage to run their online lives from phones so I'm sure it would for some but doubt it's many.
The Cook hate is a bit over the top.