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Apple's Renewed Focus on iPad Left the Mac Behind This Year
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I love my iPad pro. I really do. Most of my media consumption and much off my media creation is done on one now. HOWEVER...there are still many creative things I still need a Mac for. My current 2009 IMac is showing its age. I'd like to update it....but am shocked Apple hasn't updated their computers in so long. Used to be a time when Apple's main customer was the artist and creative pro users. PCs were for the mainstream masses. Not anymore. Ever since the iphone, Apple is catering to their consumers rather than their creative prosumers now. Fine. But don't forsake those that made Apple. You remember us? The "crazy ones".
I'll still use my MBA for writing when I'm out and about.
But I never thought I'd say that it looks like my new desktop next year will be a Hackintosh...
But I never thought I'd say that it looks like my new desktop next year will be a Hackintosh...
Don't they realize Xcode doesn't run on iOS? Let Mac die and iPad/iPhone app magic stops.
Hey macrumors, you made a mistake on the buyers guide for the MacBook Pro, it states "buy now", where it should read "don't buy"
Here is what appears to be an honest review from an Apple fan -he is returning his.
This video speaks about the truth. While i was recommending Apple products from 2003 - 2011 i can't say this with their current line-up. Dumb design decisions they made which removes comfort and convenience for the users.
What are you talking about? Do you even read MacRumors? 90% of comments here DO NOT defend Tim Cook.
Apple has never been about computers, really. It's been about the love for the product and the design and that Apple makes great stuff for us.
Apple loves what it makes, and it used to show in the level of care and detail they took when making product. That's starting to get a bit frayed.
Microsoft has been working really really hard at Windows 10 and the Surface line, they are not perfect by any means, but the intention, momentum, excitement and all the innovation is with Microsoft right now.
New Microsoft > New Apple
MacOS and it's product lines are essentially end of life. iOS (and/or the next iteration of it) is Apple's future, which is nowhere in sight.
New Microsoft > New Apple
MacOS and it's product lines are essentially end of life. iOS (and/or the next iteration of it) is Apple's future, which is nowhere in sight.
I've been a Mac user/enthusiast for over 15 years and have owned numerous laptops and desktops and the only thing keeping me is OS X and FCP. It's hard to really have respect for Apple or be excited about their products any longer when my MacPro with D700 GPU is easily outperformed by any consumer PC at less than a third of the cost. Apple products have always carried a premium price, but their price to performance ratio really seems to be slipping. Technology advancements move much too quickly for Apple's current upgrade cycles. When I bought my MacPro about a year and a half ago (a configuration that was already a year and a half old), it was already getting trounced by consumer CPUs and single gaming graphics cards (vs. the dual D700's), but at a much higher price. If not for wanting to avoid Windows and to keep the ability to use FCP and Prores encoding, the choice would've been clear. It's almost laughable that another year and half later they are still selling the MacPro for the same price and even middle of the road CPUs and consumer graphics cards are approaching its compute performance.
I'm still holding on to my 2012 15" rMBP as well since according to GeekBench it still benchmarks slightly ahead of the Touch Bar MBPs. Seems stupid to pay $3000 for a very minor body upgrade and no performance increase.
I'm still holding on to my 2012 15" rMBP as well since according to GeekBench it still benchmarks slightly ahead of the Touch Bar MBPs. Seems stupid to pay $3000 for a very minor body upgrade and no performance increase.
This would be great if the iPad could actually replace a Mac...
Was a long time Windows user as well as Mac user and just couldn't go back to Win10 however nice some of their new hardware is. But if you look at the last few released of OSX it definitely seems to be on the back burner.
I don't think my Macbook Pro 2011 was overpriced at $1800. For this price, I got the best laptop available in my eyes. Gaming capable, every port I need, flawless craftsmanship, blazing fast, and user upgrade-able.
TBH, specifically regarding the Mac Pro, it is a beast of a computer.
I have one since mid 2014, 8 core dual D700s version, and being honest, I find zero reason to upgrade it. Performance wise it is still top notch.
For that sole reason, I understand why apple will not update it any time soon. Maybe when skylake-EP and DDR4 ECC memory becomes a bit more affordable, they will decide to upgrade it, but until then, for most requirements like 3D, video editing, I think I wouldn't hurry to upgrade it.
The iMac could use an update to skylake and polaris or pascal.
But of course, with the sales going down, and current systems are right now pretty well within great performance and upgrades give barely a few % of extra performance, reasons to upgrade are very low.
So my guess is apple are waiting for a small jump in tech in order to bring out update mac pro and iMac models next year.
I have one since mid 2014, 8 core dual D700s version, and being honest, I find zero reason to upgrade it. Performance wise it is still top notch.
For that sole reason, I understand why apple will not update it any time soon. Maybe when skylake-EP and DDR4 ECC memory becomes a bit more affordable, they will decide to upgrade it, but until then, for most requirements like 3D, video editing, I think I wouldn't hurry to upgrade it.
The iMac could use an update to skylake and polaris or pascal.
But of course, with the sales going down, and current systems are right now pretty well within great performance and upgrades give barely a few % of extra performance, reasons to upgrade are very low.
So my guess is apple are waiting for a small jump in tech in order to bring out update mac pro and iMac models next year.
The big challenge for Apple is, now that they have take their iPad product, evolved that into the iPad Pro and have positioned it as a PC replacement, how do they go back and tell people, "Oh you don't think iOS is sufficient as a PC OS? Ok, well then by all means buy these great Macs over here that run our real OS."
Microsoft, on the other hand, has managed to do the opposite - take an actual PC and put it into a tablet-like form factor, without requiring the user to give up the workhorse Windows OS for a mobile-first OS (there was the ill-fated, cut-down, Windows RT on the ARM-based Surface, but that's gone now). This means that they don't need to worry about trying to speak out of both sides of their mouth while marketing the Surface, Surface Pro, and Surface Book along side one another.
Google is heading toward a similar position as Microsoft with their Andromeda OS. It's a merger or Android and ChromeOS and will theoretically pave the way for an ecosystem of mouse driven, Android "PC apps" along with devices suitable to compete with the Surface Pro (16 GB Ram, beefy GPU and graphics hardware, etc.).
One wonders how long iOS devices and macOS devices can go on living next to one another without some type of convergence. Right now, you can have the tablet form factor, but you can't get a mouse pointer on the screen and therefore you couldn't use your macOS applications even if they were available. Or, you can have your notebook form factor, but no touch screen for you. In many ways, the new MacBook Pros are the pinnacle of this artificial separation, with their touch bar sort of saying to you "See, you can touch my pixels, here by the keyboard, but - ah, ah, ah - don't touch my screen!".
Microsoft, on the other hand, has managed to do the opposite - take an actual PC and put it into a tablet-like form factor, without requiring the user to give up the workhorse Windows OS for a mobile-first OS (there was the ill-fated, cut-down, Windows RT on the ARM-based Surface, but that's gone now). This means that they don't need to worry about trying to speak out of both sides of their mouth while marketing the Surface, Surface Pro, and Surface Book along side one another.
Google is heading toward a similar position as Microsoft with their Andromeda OS. It's a merger or Android and ChromeOS and will theoretically pave the way for an ecosystem of mouse driven, Android "PC apps" along with devices suitable to compete with the Surface Pro (16 GB Ram, beefy GPU and graphics hardware, etc.).
One wonders how long iOS devices and macOS devices can go on living next to one another without some type of convergence. Right now, you can have the tablet form factor, but you can't get a mouse pointer on the screen and therefore you couldn't use your macOS applications even if they were available. Or, you can have your notebook form factor, but no touch screen for you. In many ways, the new MacBook Pros are the pinnacle of this artificial separation, with their touch bar sort of saying to you "See, you can touch my pixels, here by the keyboard, but - ah, ah, ah - don't touch my screen!".
" Apple "pretty much forgot about Mac" in order to attack the 2-in-1 tablet segment with the release of iPad Pro models over the past year."
Why does Apple need such a huge new HQ if they can only concentrate on one segment at a time?
Why does Apple need such a huge new HQ if they can only concentrate on one segment at a time?
Hey macrumors, you made a mistake on the buyers guide for the MacBook Pro, it states "buy now", where it should read "don't buy"
Here is what appears to be an honest review from an Apple fan -he is returning his.
Amazing, well balanced review. Thanks for sharing.
Gotta make year end numbers, I suppose.
I'm disappointed at some of Apple's decisions and have voiced it here.
But it is so blatantly obvious that MR is milking this to the extreme.
You can go for "balanced" I prefer "honest". #shrug
It's a pity, the Mac Mini was designed to be the affordable ATTRACTIVE introduction to the Mac lineup. You could get in with a modest entry price, using your existing monitor, keyboard and mouse; and you could UPGRADE the Mac Mini as time and money came around. You could easily upgrade the RAM, and adding or making a FUSION drive was some serious surgery - but the novice could do it.
Then, Tim Cook killed that idea - shot it in the head. RAM is soldered down. Now, the Mac Mini is a permanently ham-stringed PC that is over-priced and will never be a contender. I dearly love my 2012 Mac Mini, and now the only really attractive desktop Mac is the Mac Pro, at 6x the entry price of my Mac Mini. It makes for a very difficult sale.
Then, Tim Cook killed that idea - shot it in the head. RAM is soldered down. Now, the Mac Mini is a permanently ham-stringed PC that is over-priced and will never be a contender. I dearly love my 2012 Mac Mini, and now the only really attractive desktop Mac is the Mac Pro, at 6x the entry price of my Mac Mini. It makes for a very difficult sale.
Gaming wise, I would not buy a MacBook pro for gaming if that is what I needed. I would buy one to have a light weight good screen and easy to use zero hassle system for my work.
If I needed a laptop for gaming, I would not even consider a mac, even if it was half the price. Its a work/study/travel laptop, not a gaming laptop.
Apple is making more money than any other company in the world. They are building spaceship campuses in California and hoarding billions in cash reserves. How is it this company can't execute on more than 1 or 2 things at a time? Surely they should be able to update computers regularly along with the iPhone and iPad lineup at the same time.
No excuse.
No excuse.
It is strange. Considering how many they employ you'd think they could easily cope with phones, ipads and macs. I'd imagine it's more to do with lack of leadership than resources.
Think it will go more towards portable devices, with only phones, tablets, or laptops, and for those that want bigger screens they say buy an external one from LG
