Notice I said Gaming Capable. At time of release, Macbook Pro 15 2011 was able to play current titles. How do I know? I played them.
Now, Apple doesn't care.
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Apple's Renewed Focus on iPad Left the Mac Behind This Year
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Notice I said Gaming Capable. At time of release, Macbook Pro 15 2011 was able to play current titles. How do I know? I played them.
Now, Apple doesn't care.
This is starting to feel intentional, and that's the sad thing.
its sad when apple phone tech tells you that your Macbook pro isn't capable of being used for serious work. its sad when a store sales person says you need a 3K Mac to do any type of photo and video editing without issues. what makes it worse... the same cpu in a windows machine can chug along without issues. sad again when apple can't even get established hardware to play nice with Mac OS. so sad... so very sad!!
I think the only thing about sales being affected is that if they are relying on sales for that signal, it'll be too late.
People only upgrade their hardware every few years, and people (from my observations) really don't like switching platforms. Even if they do make great hardware for the Mac and iOS lines in, say 2017 and 2018, it may already be too late for those who moved to windows or wherever in 2015 and 2016. At least until it's time to upgrade again (years).
I agree - except I was so sure they would update the Thunderbolt display I held off buying a replacement for my nMP.
I have been hearing/reading about the post PC (meaning traditional computers, not just MS OS ones) era since after the end of PC gaming. PC gaming died apparently, in the late 1980s with the explosion of the consoles. PC gaming continued to die well in the 90s. At some point, with Bill Gates at the front, the end of the PC was starting too. To be replaced by several other devices, even the TV. PC continued to die into the 2000s and now in late 2016, the PC is still dying. It's amazing how many times and for how many years the PC is dying/dead. *sarcasm*
The only people who truly believe the PC (again, not just MS based ones, but Macs, Linux etc) is dead or about to die are the same morons preaching it for decades now, or the marketing people trying to push their own new devices to the flock, the sheep, the customers as they see them.
The only people who truly believe the PC (again, not just MS based ones, but Macs, Linux etc) is dead or about to die are the same morons preaching it for decades now, or the marketing people trying to push their own new devices to the flock, the sheep, the customers as they see them.
The iMac shouldn't be on this list. It was updated to skylake last year and there's literally nothing newer from Intel that could be put in it. That "amazinnnggggg" surface studio is using the same skylake chips and is just now shipping....
Maybe the poster was talking about the other 10% that will defend him no matter what.
Then that case there is no sense in staying with Apple.
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It looks like the price we pay for Apple having such a tight, huge ecosystem. They are looking at a plan based on future compatibility.
Even in 2011 you could find much better gaming capable laptops for the same price.
I can also play current games on my MacBook pro 15 with the measly 750M in low and sometimes even med settings. I still don't think there is a reason to. If I bought a laptop with the intention to game on it, I would not go for a MacBook pro.
Sorry dudes, the R&D budget was blown on emoji development.
Who needs a computer anyway, you can do pro stuff on your phone.
Who needs a computer anyway, you can do pro stuff on your phone.
No, not starting. This is a PLANNED business strategy, very planned.
Who wrote this article? because it's hilarious "Partially attributed to chipmakers," other companies haven't had any issues putting out updated machines at all.
Somehow the up to 1084 days without the Mac Pro or Mac Mini being updated is blamed on AMD, Intel or Nvidia
. I honestly think that's ridiculous. Chipmakers generally provide updates every 6 months, Skylake was released in 2015 along with GTX 900 Series, Titan, and AMD Fury X etc.. Razer also just updated their products with Kabylake and 1080 series graphics on September 2nd, 2016.
There's really no excuse, what's more salt on the wound is Apple's outdated products still sell for the same price :O. Meanwhile most manufacturers provide discounts as their products age. Even Microsoft has a deal running once in a while for Surface Pro, or the Surface Book line..
Somehow the up to 1084 days without the Mac Pro or Mac Mini being updated is blamed on AMD, Intel or Nvidia
. I honestly think that's ridiculous. Chipmakers generally provide updates every 6 months, Skylake was released in 2015 along with GTX 900 Series, Titan, and AMD Fury X etc.. Razer also just updated their products with Kabylake and 1080 series graphics on September 2nd, 2016.There's really no excuse, what's more salt on the wound is Apple's outdated products still sell for the same price :O. Meanwhile most manufacturers provide discounts as their products age. Even Microsoft has a deal running once in a while for Surface Pro, or the Surface Book line..
If Steve Jobs' ninja sleeper cells are still active within Apple...now is the time.. You know what needs to be done. Activate failsafe protocol. The fiery spoon conversed with the whimsical curtain, I repeat: The fiery spoon conversed with the whimsical curtain, go to go!
Yeah I agree.
Updating to thunderbolt 3 / dp 1.3 would be great to connect it to up to date monitors which apple are even offering now.
But I think one of the culprits here is intel. Their broadwell-EP native support isn't what apple has on the skylake on the iMac for example, so when skylake-EP E5s are available, they might finally update.
How confident are you of Apple's continued support for FCP, given what happened to Aperture?
Macs are great, I won't buy anything else when it comes to computers, but it's nothing short of embarrassing to sell products with a hefty premium for outdated hardware. Apple seems to be its own worse enemy these days, all they had to do is bump the specs and make use of current CPU/GPU/RAM/storage components.
I'm already planning to abandon the Apple ecosystem starting with my network and Macs.
What used to be the magic sauce that made everything Apple 'just work' has been draining away over the last few years.
The stuff that makes things work together is the cloud and services. Apple is definitely a laggard there and I will happily use a combination of Microsoft, Google, and Amazon for those things.
I've tried to use (and given up on)
- Eero network wi-fi hubs (to replace Airport Extreme & Time Capsule)
- HP Slice for HTPC (when Mac mini is no longer serviceable)
- Possibly something like the Microsoft Surface Studio (when iMac retina 27" croaks)
What used to be the magic sauce that made everything Apple 'just work' has been draining away over the last few years.
The stuff that makes things work together is the cloud and services. Apple is definitely a laggard there and I will happily use a combination of Microsoft, Google, and Amazon for those things.
I've tried to use (and given up on)
- SIRI
- Homekit
- CarPlay
- Apple Music
- iCloud
In 2011, I was able to play COD, GTA, and many other demanding games at med-high settings with my Macbook Pro. Remember, native resolution was 1440x900.
And once again, I was buying an ALL AROUND MACHINE. This is what the Macbook Pro 2011 was. This is why it was so damn good.
My 2012 Mac Tower has a GTX 980 Ti in it. It runs every game flawlessly. So, I'm not too heartbroken. But, it would be nice to have a portable mac that could run current titles.
Someone fire this guy (read idiot), who doesn't know what a 2-in-1 is and why the iPad Pro isn't one.
I've always thought that was such a BS response. The iPad and MacBook Air aren't that different in size, and they're both computers trying to get work done. A better analogy would be a family sedan vs. an SUV. The sedan is more portable with tight handling and good gas mileage but can't get around well in snow and you can't load something big like an oven in the back. The SUV is more useful being AWD with more room to store or tow things, but can't take corners well, uses more gas and takes up more space. Combine them together and you get something like a Subaru Outback, which is a fantastic hybrid of the two (I just bought one a few months ago so that's why the analogy popped into my head).
Apple always does this though. They'll spend a lot of effort explaining why a product category is bad that they're not in. Such as the iPad Mini, or the video iPod, or the MacBook Air (netbook) market. I mean, the last one isn't exactly a 1:1 comparison, but Apple does it in their own style and quality fit and finish. Anyway, I think the two will eventually merge, or perhaps the iPad OS will branch off and become like a third type of system. I think that's the best approach. You can't just chuck macOS onto an iPad. But you can't just continue with iOS on the iPad in it's current form. It needs to become a crossover that doesn't feel quite like either system but embraces the best things of both and melds them together in a way that makes the sum of the parts greater than the whole. It's no small task but I think it will prove vital to the future of computing in the Apple ecosystem to figure it out. My main concern is that I don't know if Apple is talented enough anymore to figure it out. They used to pump out products that felt like the obvious way that something should be done. That feeling of wholeness you get from an Apple product—the well thought out incredible design has been lacking.
Except for the update to the MacBook Pro last month, Apple has been woeful with updates to the Mac lineup. Most of their lineup is featuring 2-3 year old technologies. While this isn't really going to kill performance all that much, Apple is still selling these devices as premium priced products. Comparing to the competition, who regularly update internals to keep up to date, and then discount previous technologies.
This makes it appear that Apple is just milking things. putting no money or effort into ensuring the Mac lineup is kept up to date.
This also conflicts with the lsat updates to many of their products which followed the Apple "thinner = better" mentality which saw many of the updates back in 2014/2015 actually take away, rather than add.
For Example: The 2012 Mac Mini was a beloved Mini computer by just about anyone who really wanted a nice, slick SFF. It also came with the 45w quad core CPU's (similar to the MacBook Pro's). Was also fairly easy to upgrade the hard drive and RAM.
in 2014, the "refresh" saw Apple downgrade the CPU to a dual core ULV (same in the MacBook Air), solder in the RAM, and make the hard drive nearly impossible to upgrade without pulling everything apart. Without a change to the devices shape / size. There was literally no reason for this "downgrade" other than planned obsolescence and profit margins.
Similar could jbe said for previous iMac. Thinned the chassis and started using lower thermal tolerance parts. Who was asking for a desktop computer that was 4mm thinner on the side? this has dramatic thermal issues. Look at the i7 model, which came with Intel's highest end CPU, that downclocked and thermal throttled itself.
the new Mac Pro saw it's last design Also go this route. it became smaller, lower thermal tolerances, and heavily restricted adaptability and upgrade path. A pro machine that you cannot upgrade the GPU's. Hard drive and other components without external boxes, with less actual choice in internal options than ever before.
The MacBook air that saw nothing but an internal update, while leaving all that was wrong, such as terrible quality screen (same screen since 2010 essentially) and horrible front facing camera.
And UNfortunately the new MacBook Pro seems to be following the same route. Soldered in components. 3mm thinner, but with significant tradeoffs in performance (some users report throttling), the "dongle life", bad GPUs in some, drivers that physically broke the device included in bootcamp(Sound).
None of these are BAD devices. they're all quality built. clear that there current direction is Form over function for sure. But when you ask for a high premium price, these things come under much higher scrutiny. If you're going to charge a good chunk more than the competition, there has to be something you're offering in value that is above and beyond the competition. Instead in the last few years, we've seen less offered in return for those higher prices.
And thats what I see wrong with the current Mac lineup