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Apple's Renewed Focus on iPad Left the Mac Behind This Year
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Tim is out of touch. He should go to a best buy and see what his competition is.
I did..I will never buy a windoz pc..but A mac costs 4-5 times a much as a pc that in many cases will
destroy a mac. No doubt the mac is better made and has a better OS.
Why can't Apple use the mac as a loss leader?
How is it that with those prices Apple isn't making computers that destroy everything else?
Apple is out of touch.
I will buy old macs until they wise up.
I did..I will never buy a windoz pc..but A mac costs 4-5 times a much as a pc that in many cases will
destroy a mac. No doubt the mac is better made and has a better OS.
Why can't Apple use the mac as a loss leader?
How is it that with those prices Apple isn't making computers that destroy everything else?
Apple is out of touch.
I will buy old macs until they wise up.
Yes. A thousand times, yes.
As someone who supports HUNDREDS of iOS devices in EDU/Enterprise, the many limitations of Springboard (and iOS in general) are maddening. Apple has been slowly -- very slowly -- improving management, but their own tools (Profile Manager, Apple Configurator) are lackluster, and alternatives are not cheap.
As a power user, I'd love to use an iPad Pro as my only portable device. But it's not there yet, from a usability standpoint.
Focusing on i devices is the reason they are able to hoard all that money.
Steve made a lot of mistakes, but they were the kind of mistakes we eventually liked because more often than not, he was right. Tim is making more mistakes and none of the mistakes are good for us. I had never complained about Apple on MR before the few years and I have an original Mac that I was the first owner of. Under Jobs, things happened that i did not like but at the end of the day Apple made products I wanted and that worked for me both personally and professionally.
I never had the feeling that Jobs segregated customer where some would get inferior products. The Apple lineup now does that. To get a small screen iPhone I have to be satisfied with inferior camera, and lack of other options, etc. That is Marketing 101 from the Ivy League schools. Jobs was never that way. He let you choose. More or less memory, more or less storage, higher or lower speed, but never did you get reduced functionality because you paid less.
Outside of the iPhone, Tim absolutely does not produce a product that makes me want to buy Apple. The restrictions from the walled garden, shout at me to stay very very far away from Apple products outside of the iPhone. My computers should be my computers, not Apple's to control what I can install and what permission I give the software. Now maybe Apple is not going to make macOS into the same walled garden as iOS. They have certainly made the laptops nothing but throwaway computers. Apple's attitude, draconian restrictions on what apps get accepted into the iPhone app store, and lack of setting/publishing any future expectations only tells me that they have no concern for my freedom and desire. Now I do understand that we are protecting the children. But that is not the computer makers responsibility.
If Jobs were here, I would blame him, but he's not. Maybe he even started this before he left, i don't know and don't care. I can only deal with today and scream as loud as I can. Will anybody listen, probably not. So I'll leave Apple behind. At the end of the day it is just a computer. And like Nokia, Polaroid, etc., management fails when they start thinking they are so smart they don't need to listen. This attitude worked for the old Apple because Jobs was close enough to being smart enough that it worked. The new Apple is not even close, but they certainly act and think like they are.
Well, it just so happens we liked it when Apple had a more balanced product line. If they did, you would see a more balanced discussion.
Unfortunately laptops and desktops are just dying out. Not a lot Apple can do to fight that. (I still expect the Mac Mini and Mac Pro to be discontinued).
If they're having such a hard time keeping hardware up to date maybe they should condense the line a little bit.. We could easily just have an iMac, Macbook/Macbook Pro, iPad/iPad Pro, iPhone/iPhone Plus product line. Would be way less confusing for consumers without the iPod, Macbook Air, iPad Air, Mac Pro, and Mac Mini names cluttering things.
No Mac Pro or Mac Mini because, no offense, but Apple clearly either doesn't sell enough or just isn't interested in those markets anymore. Which is unfortunate because I would love an upgraded Mac Mini now that Intel graphics are "good enough" for most popular games like WoW or The Sims.
No Mac Pro or Mac Mini because, no offense, but Apple clearly either doesn't sell enough or just isn't interested in those markets anymore. Which is unfortunate because I would love an upgraded Mac Mini now that Intel graphics are "good enough" for most popular games like WoW or The Sims.
If they're released the new MBP as the Air replacement, and the new MBP was the 2015 chassis with Kabylake and an Nvidia 1050ti (and therefore released in January, like everyone else is), 80% of the complaints here would be gone (and just desktop users screwed).
It's not that people here are unreasonable, they just see 3 or 4 other companies now fighting for Apple's mantle... and Apple is making watchbands.
I agree with everything else you've stated, but this feature keeps software from launching and installing in the background. Many users just click through dialog boxes without looking at what is actually going on, which leads to lots of malicious software being installed inadvertently.
I think there should be a "don't re-enable GateKeeper EVER" option, because I'd use it, but I'm not your average user.
What do you expect from Apple nowadays? Apple doesn't give a damn about Macs anymore.
I will say this:
I've been a poster for a few years now, and lurker for a lot longer. There are people who I would have 2-3 years ago call "fanboys" and "iSheep". Today? These very same people are the critical ones calling out Apple's mistakes.
That to me is one of the most telling things. Loyal fans who have stuck with Apple through thick and thin are calling these things out.
thats a bad sign if you manage to alienate your most loyal fanbase
Wow, Apple is really sucking right now and it's all because of Tim Cook. He seems more interested in attending charity banquets and hosting political fundraisers than he is in leading Apple. No Mac updates in almost a year (Mac Pro is over three years, how embarrassing), and the iPad Pro is such a joke. Everyone is asking for a touch screen Mac yet Apple refuses to deliver the one product that would fly off the shelves. Ditch iOS for iPad and put the full OS X experience in there. Microsoft can do it with Windows, is Apple saying it's not innovative enough to do what Microsoft has done?
Apple has hundreds of thousands of employees, yet it can only focus on updating one product per year? Is Phil Schiller the only person working on hardware or something? And what's up with using last year's processors? I remember that under Steve Jobs, Apple got Intel's technology before it was even officially launched. Mac Pros got CPUs that didn't exist yet and hadn't been publicly unveiled by Intel. It was such a coup for Apple back then, when it actually led in the personal computer space. Seems like Apple bought its own drivel about "post PC era". It got a little too full of itself when iPad sales were high. Now they are in the toilet because people realize they can't actually do any real work with those things.
Tim Cook needs to resign. I wish Scott Forestall was still at Apple, he was the only person there with the balls to stand up to the corporate suits and do things the right way. No wonder he got canned as soon as Cook took over. Apple is the new Titanic and it's purposely steering towards an iceberg. That's the saddest part, as Apple is doing this to itself.
Al Gore, are you listening? You are on Apple's Board. Fire Tim Cook immediately and replace him with someone who actually has vision and has tons of new ideas. Tim Cook is a stiff board with a pencil and a spreadsheet, nothing more. Sadly, Apple won't realize this until it is far too late.
Apple has hundreds of thousands of employees, yet it can only focus on updating one product per year? Is Phil Schiller the only person working on hardware or something? And what's up with using last year's processors? I remember that under Steve Jobs, Apple got Intel's technology before it was even officially launched. Mac Pros got CPUs that didn't exist yet and hadn't been publicly unveiled by Intel. It was such a coup for Apple back then, when it actually led in the personal computer space. Seems like Apple bought its own drivel about "post PC era". It got a little too full of itself when iPad sales were high. Now they are in the toilet because people realize they can't actually do any real work with those things.
Tim Cook needs to resign. I wish Scott Forestall was still at Apple, he was the only person there with the balls to stand up to the corporate suits and do things the right way. No wonder he got canned as soon as Cook took over. Apple is the new Titanic and it's purposely steering towards an iceberg. That's the saddest part, as Apple is doing this to itself.
Al Gore, are you listening? You are on Apple's Board. Fire Tim Cook immediately and replace him with someone who actually has vision and has tons of new ideas. Tim Cook is a stiff board with a pencil and a spreadsheet, nothing more. Sadly, Apple won't realize this until it is far too late.
For home users, maybe. The largest market for desktops and high-end laptops is business/education/enterprise, where iPads just can't do everything.
If the Mac mini and Mac Pro aren't selling, it's on Apple, not consumers. I know of many institutions that used Xserves and Mac Pros that were very frustrated with Apple in 2011 and 2013. Though each had their foibles, they were well-liked. I don't of many professionals that like the new Mac Pro. Maybe audio engineers?
Christ we're not asking for a 'home run', we're just asking that Apple actually update their computer line (like they used to) without making 'thiness' the only objective.
"What's a computer" you ask...?
Certainly not a iPad Pro for most "Pro" users. What a complete farce.
Certainly not a iPad Pro for most "Pro" users. What a complete farce.
On the Pro end, we've been stuck on 12 core Mac's for 7 years. That's right... We haven't had a compelling upgrade for our MacPro's for seven bleeping years and counting.... Meanwhile Apple's competitors, as well as our competitors that use PC's, are using 44 core machines (just newer generations of the same chip).
Our company has been All Apple for 30+ years. Desktops, laptops, iPads, iPhones, monitors, routers. That's all about to change. Its one thing to allow evolution of tablets taking over desktops, its completely different to force it when the iPad doesn't even come close to replacing a computer. Apples plans no longer line up with our plans, so they will be losing sales on all of their products from us.
Keep it up Tim. Hope Apple Phone Corp works out for you just like (Motorola, Nokia, Rim, Palm)
Our company has been All Apple for 30+ years. Desktops, laptops, iPads, iPhones, monitors, routers. That's all about to change. Its one thing to allow evolution of tablets taking over desktops, its completely different to force it when the iPad doesn't even come close to replacing a computer. Apples plans no longer line up with our plans, so they will be losing sales on all of their products from us.
Keep it up Tim. Hope Apple Phone Corp works out for you just like (Motorola, Nokia, Rim, Palm)
Good option for the desktop. I did the same, and if you choose your components wisely, it's straight forward. Not so great on the laptop side though.
"Likewise, Cook said the iPad Pro is a notebook or desktop computer replacement for many people. "They will start using it and conclude they no longer need to use anything else, other than their phones," he added. "I think if you're looking at a PC, why would you buy a PC anymore? No really, why would you buy one?""
For many people this is true, for the rest, a full PC is still required. The iPad cannot do everything, it is not a PC replacement.
Also, this is marketing speak, he's trying to sell the iPad.
For many people this is true, for the rest, a full PC is still required. The iPad cannot do everything, it is not a PC replacement.
Also, this is marketing speak, he's trying to sell the iPad.