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I tried for two years to use an iPad in the manner you are stating. It was so frustrating, I gave it to my mother-in-law and bought a MacBook Air. Write a paper? I can't even explain how much of a pain it is to try and highlight, copy, and insert with your finger. Bluetooth keyboard won't fix that. Even web browsing is harder because there is no true right-clicking, not to mention no ability for multiple windows with tabs.

Plus, I can't encode movies or videos the way I can with my Mac, nor store them on my family RAID drive for streaming through our Apple TV. Where is iPad support for joysticks to play flight simulators?

The iPad can't replace any of that.

Not to mention no 3D touch on a "PC replacement" device. Apple isn't even pretending to back up their claims anymore.
 
AMD's, Nvidia's, Intel's schedules are not to blame. If companies which make a fraction of the profit off their boxes can upgrade their products several times a year, one would think Apple would have the motivation to do it as well. (Unless they are *overly distracted* with cars, watchbands, pencils, headphones and streaming music).

Apple without "the Mac"... is not Apple. (Apple without Steve....)

Sadly, as every keynote, since Steve's passing, goes by, my positive emotions for the work this company puts out diminishes. (I'm not saying that to troll or to be mean, but it's just disheartening unfortunately).
If the schedules aren't to blame then nobody would be complaining about the new MBPs power because the Kaby Lake chips would be out. If the schedules aren't to blame, then why is the iMac waiting on desktop Kaby Lake processors and Polaris/Vega graphics?
Sure, Apple could improve the brightness or speakers, or even redesign it but what's the point in that when the internals would be the same.
 
I tried for two years to use an iPad in the manner you are stating. It was so frustrating, I gave it to my mother-in-law and bought a MacBook Air. Write a paper? I can't even explain how much of a pain it is to try and highlight, copy, and insert with your finger. Bluetooth keyboard won't fix that. Even web browsing is harder because there is no true right-clicking, not to mention no ability for multiple windows with tabs.

Plus, I can't encode movies or videos the way I can with my Mac, nor store them on my family RAID drive for streaming through our Apple TV. Where is iPad support for joysticks to play flight simulators?

The iPad can't replace any of that.
yeah, forgot about the air :p

I would probably buy an air if I was doing the things mentioned above.

Okay.... how about editing the list of activities: browsing internet and writing emails to family, watching Netflix, playing games. For an extra entertainment device, the ipad would be sufficient for many people.
 
Not to mention no 3D touch on a "PC replacement" device. Apple isn't even pretending to back up their claims anymore.
An iPad can replace somebody's PC. In fact it has been able to since 2010. Similarly, the iPhone has been able to replace some people's PCs. But clearly not the people on the Macrumors forum (myself included) or many reviewers.
 
I am not exactly sure where this argument is going as far as the tablets and the Macs running the same OS. Just about anything I can do on my Mac I can do on my iPad Pro 9.7 or iPad mini 4. They both run software that I use all the time, I can pick off on one where I left on the other etc. I think they have pretty much merged iOS and MacOS together pretty well. Is it because they don't have the same name? I'm not understanding what the issue is. I can work on an Excel file on my iMac. get on the bus and work on the same file using my iPad, and then open up my MacBook Pro and work on the same file. I can even work on it on my iPhone. So I don't see where the problem is. 5-10 years ago this was virtually impossible. I used Excel as an example, but the same could be said for Word, PowerPoint, Pages, Keynote, Numbers, Informant, Outlook, OneNote, Day One, Fantastical, BusyCal, OmniFocus, AnyList, Quicken, Mail, ToDo, etc. For me the integration of Mac and iOS is very well done.

As far as Hardware goes, I just upgraded to the 13" 2016 MacBook Pro with the touchbar to replace my early 2011 MacBook Pro. I am extremely happy with the computer. A lot has changed in the almost 6 years. Yes, they are both 13" MacBooks, but when you compare everything from the specs , screen, the thickness it all better. Battery Life, I don't see an issue, my new MacBook Pro gets anywhere from 9-11 hours per charge, yet I read horror stories of 2-3 hours on these forums. The new Mac is almost as thin as my iPad Pro with the case and Keyboard cover. I love it. Instead of upgrading hardware every year, maybe you should do so every 4-6 years and you'd appreciate the changes more.

For me, my Macs, iPads and iPhone have made my life a lot easier. I can do whatever I want on any of the devices and it all stays synced thanks to iCloud or OneDrive. Hell I can even do somethings on my Apple Watch.
 
Okay.... how about editing the list of activities: browsing internet and writing emails to family, watching Netflix, playing games. For an extra entertainment device, the ipad would be sufficient for many people.

Nothing a laptop can't do... and the laptop does it better anyway. Tablets are useless.
 
  • Neglected the Mac lines
  • Tablet market will stall soon
  • iPhone market will likely reach a natural ceiling some day
  • Apple has no leg to stand on in virtual reality and/or games
  • terminated screen and Wifi business
  • terminated most pro software (Aperture et al)
Then what? Services like the iTunes store probably will not support a company as big as Apple is.
 
You can go for "balanced" I prefer "honest". #shrug
Here's my point. This is a forum about Apple products. It now feels like it's a forum that has an extremely skewed vision of the past (Jobs made no mistakes, Apple was glorious from day 1) to Apple is a doomed company lead by a dimwit. The fact is I would bet 90%+ of the people sh*tting on Apple here would NEVER part with their iPhone, Macbook Pro or anything else (ok, maybe their Apple Watches). I may be wrong, and I honestly wish these folks would move over to the world of Android and Chrome so they would hang in those forums. Man, that echo system would send them over the edge.

Now that said, we need to hold Apple accountable when it screws up or ignores it customers. Examples are waiting 1k+ days for a Mac Pro update. Apple seems to have forgotten it's roots and the people who were the original evangelists, the professionals. We just don't need to be confused about leadership being morons, they clearly are not.
 
An iPad can replace somebody's PC. In fact it has been able to since 2010. Similarly, the iPhone has been able to replace some people's PCs. But clearly not the people on the Macrumors forum (myself included) or many reviewers.

My grandma once tried to type an email on my ipad got a look of disgust and said "I can't use that thing". Granted she's not very tech savvy, you need a proper mouse/trackpad as well as a keyboard to even begin to have a PC replacement for the majority of tech-literate users.
 
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I am not exactly sure where this argument is going as far as the tablets and the Macs running the same OS. Just about anything I can do on my Mac I can do on my iPad Pro 9.7 or iPad mini 4. They both run software that I use all the time, I can pick off on one where I left on the other etc. I think they have pretty much merged iOS and MacOS together pretty well. Is it because they don't have the same name? I'm not understanding what the issue is. I can work on an Excel file on my iMac. get on the bus and work on the same file using my iPad, and then open up my MacBook Pro and work on the same file. I can even work on it on my iPhone. So I don't see where the problem is. 5-10 years ago this was virtually impossible. I used Excel as an example, but the same could be said for Word, PowerPoint, Pages, Keynote, Numbers, Informant, Outlook, OneNote, Day One, Fantastical, BusyCal, OmniFocus, AnyList, Quicken, Mail, ToDo, etc. For me the integration of Mac and iOS is very well done.

As far as Hardware goes, I just upgraded to the 13" 2016 MacBook Pro with the touchbar to replace my early 2011 MacBook Pro. I am extremely happy with the computer. A lot has changed in the almost 6 years. Yes, they are both 13" MacBooks, but when you compare everything from the specs , screen, the thickness it all better. Battery Life, I don't see an issue, my new MacBook Pro gets anywhere from 9-11 hours per charge, yet I read horror stories of 2-3 hours on these forums. The new Mac is almost as thin as my iPad Pro with the case and Keyboard cover. I love it. Instead of upgrading hardware every year, maybe you should do so every 4-6 years and you'd appreciate the changes more.

For me, my Macs, iPads and iPhone have made my life a lot easier. I can do whatever I want on any of the devices and it all stays synced thanks to iCloud or OneDrive. Hell I can even do somethings on my Apple Watch.


What the..What??!
 
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Apple is making more money than any other company in the world. They are building spaceship campuses in California and hoarding billions in cash reserves. How is it this company can't execute on more than 1 or 2 things at a time? Surely they should be able to update computers regularly along with the iPhone and iPad lineup at the same time.

No excuse.

A relatively small company like Razer makes a laptop that is essentially what every Apple consumer would want with the bonus of it being cheaper and way better features as well as having a matte finish display (way better than having an effing mirror for a display):

http://www.razerzone.com/ca-en/store/razer-blade

How Apple can't make a decent laptop is beyond me. But I suppose they're in the business of ripping off consumers?
 
I am not exactly sure where this argument is going as far as the tablets and the Macs running the same OS. Just about anything I can do on my Mac I can do on my iPad Pro 9.7 or iPad mini 4.

You're definitely not using either for anything other than sending gramma and grandpa pictures of your cat. Call me when you try running Photoshop, encoding and editing video, managing 30,000 fonts, etc.
 
I'm mad, but resolved to move on...
Apple has left me no choice but to come to terms with the fact that Apple is no longer the company I at first grudgingly learned to love for saving me from Microsoft computer hell. That company is gone and I'm the fool for continuing to live in the past. Now I must move on.

If anyone knows of a law firm working a class-action law suite against Apple for obsoleting my iPad mini and iPhone through compulsory software updates please post that information.
 
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Been saying this about apple now for almost 2 years. And been seeing and saying the opposite about Microsoft. Microsoft is innovating left and right, while Apple focuses on useless products like iPad Pro. Wtf makes it a pro? The size? How about you actually compete with the Surface Pro.... I want an iPad that is mac OS. I'm SO close to leaving apple behind. Ill continue using it for my work computer because mac os just works... but personal use.. I am beginning to lean towards a Surface Pro.
 
this is a shame because I really wanted either a mac pro or an imac since my 2012 is finally starting to show its age, I really want a new mac but have no need for a notebook anymore when I have an ipad and I only use that for travel and basically only use my laptop at home.
 
I think people need to get comfortable with the fact that computers are no longer going to change much from year to year. Sales are contracting, chip makers are focused on portability over speed, and most people no longer need to more powerful computer to run current software.

Basically, the computer you buy today isn't going to be much different than the computer you can buy in two or three years.
 
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An iPad can replace somebody's PC. In fact it has been able to since 2010. Similarly, the iPhone has been able to replace some people's PCs. But clearly not the people on the Macrumors forum (myself included) or many reviewers.

It can't replace my MacBook Pro. It can't replace my wife's MacBook Air. It can't replace my kid's PC's for homework. It can't replace my mom's iMac, and even my father went back to his PC for playing solitaire. So in my surroundings not a soul would be happy with just an iPad, and these people are all over the digital/non-digital spectrum.
 
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The question is, will their quarterly financials show a turn around in the MBP sales, or just an uptick. A lot of people here at MR and a various YT reviewers are not liking the laptop, but does that turn into an appreciable dent in sales or a drop in the ocean?
I think Apple's focus on a product line that isn't doing great and hurting other product lines is not the best move.
 
If anyone knows of a law firm working a class-action law suite against Apple for obsoleting my iPad mini and iPhone through compulsory software updates please post that information.

There needs to be a lawsuit for false advertising on the iMac; it's rated at 4ghz or whatever but because of the piss poor airflow and cooling inside, it never reaches it's maximum speed as it downthrottles it's CPU in order to prevent it from overheating and frying. I believe some macbooks do this too.

How the HELL is Apple getting away with this???
 
This is why I went the hackintosh route. I built a high end computer using current technology and it runs macOS flawlessly with all the newest features. Also cost less than half of a Mac Pro.
 
Better Headline - Tim Cook Left Apple Behind This Year.

1. Removed 3.5mm headphone jack from iPhone
2. Made the Macbook Pro less pro
3. Neglected iMac
4. Ditched Display Business
5. Has made a loyal Apple customer not find any interest in any product in the Apple store

Get that man out of there. Please. Seriously.

-Signed Mac Pro Tower 2012 / 15 inch Macbook Pro 2011 / iPhone 6 user
Apple did reintroduce phone sized devices again into the iPhone line up with the iPhone SE. So that's something good.
 
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