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When an optical drive fails, the consumer (or Apple) can choose to fix it.

When there is no optical drive at all, the consumer is simply S.O.L. for the entire life of the product.

How the heck is the latter scenario - in which the consumer receives more features and choices - worse for the consumer?

When I see changes like this, I think back to my first iMac and the lack of a floppy drive. I was upset and thought it silly not to include one, but I've never used a floppy disk since. I imagine this change will be much the same.
 
Bob Mansfield doesn't have his name on an Apple patent. Are you going to tell me he has nothing to offer Apple? Most of the patents Steve is listed on are design patents. If his name was listed first it was probably more due to ego than anything else. Look at their design patents today and the inventors are listed alphabetically.

I'm not talking about Bob Manfield man. I was talking about CEO Tim Cook and Steve Jobs.
 
Have you actually seen one in person? Until you do how can you really comment? Pictures are deceiving. And this whole ' Steve would never...' line is getting soooooo old. :rolleyes:

The pictures do not lie (the ones Apple dont have on their own website that is), if the centre thickness is similar to that of the outgoing 'fat' model what is the point? It's still that thick at the thickest point (which is what counts surely if you're playing the thin game) and you lose functionality (CDROM / user upgradable memory modules) as well - I just don't get the point.

The SJ reference is entirely relevant here. In the book he reiterates that the reason the iPad didn't come sooner was because the technology wasn't there to make it in the form he wanted - unlike some of the very early tablets that came out that were thick, heavy and slow. I cannot believe for one second that anyone with an eye for perfect design wanted the new iMac to look as it does instead of being that thin over it's entirety.

..hell, I dont even want an iMac, just for me it made me think there's a shift in priorities / design ethos / attention to detail or whatever going on.

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Very big mistake. Grouping all the products together will keep the specialization that each leader had on it. Instead now it's becoming a service company. Completely backward.

Every major player in this industry is transitioning to a devices + services company. Make no mistake, services that keep your data / content in sync across all your devices wherever you are is the foundation of it all.
 
And Magic Mouse, which is about as un-ergonomic as any device, ever. I gave it 30 minutes but my hand cramped so bad I returned it. And I wasn't even holding it wrong.

It's just amazing how Apple's mice in the past decade have all been terrible in terms of ergonomics. :(
 
It's just amazing how Apple's mice in the past decade have all been terrible in terms of ergonomics. :(

Perhaps that is because most mice are pretty good, ergonomically speaking, already and they should just concentrate making a nicer one based on traditional design rather than trying to convince the world that one shaped differently is better :)
 
Pretty simple. These are no longer stand-alone products that can be boxed into convenient niches. The products interact through the services. Balkanization of the product design and development means it's nearly impossible to make things work together. This new approach is evolutionary and something I think Steve would have been pushing even before now.
 
Things might start to get exciting again. Things have been becoming so disappointing of late.

The only other problem is apple's persistent silence when trying to inform them of bugs and problems. It's like you're shouting into space. Apparently even developers have this problem.

Wish that would change.

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I knew it was a matter of time before Apple started having problems without Steve. Siri was not as bad as imap so I wonder what's next. I'm not impressed by the new iphone either.. with all that power/ram they really could have created something new and innovative instead of just giving it an unattractive black metal cover.
 
I think this change is welcome and long needed. However it also is further indication of a convergence between OSX and iOS, which "Mac" fans seem to have a real problem with.

Since Forstall was a Jobs/NeXT guy and had that way of doing things, this action "purifies things". In a sense it is a little less Steve and his style, and more of the new school implementing the best aspects of Steve/Apple U. Don't forget they have on-campus training and management style analysis 24/7.

Cook is employing something he gathered from all that investment.

Rocketman
 
When an optical drive fails, the consumer (or Apple) can choose to fix it.

When there is no optical drive at all, the consumer is simply S.O.L. for the entire life of the product.

How the heck is the latter scenario - in which the consumer receives more features and choices - worse for the consumer?

When I bought my Apple computers, none of which had an optical drive, I don't remember being forced to sign a blood oath I would never buy one on my own.

I assume your question applies to the former scenario, not the latter, and the answer is simple - instead of paying for a device I don't need at all 4 times (one per computer), and everyone else who doesn't want or need one also being forced to buy one, those few who need one can buy one.
 
Apple needs to decouple software versions with their hardware versions. I know they like to release gated features with their devices but this would allow them to release features that aren't half baked like Siri and Maps.

No. Get an Android if open products is your thing.

The seamless integration of software and hardware is what makes Apple, Apple. They're the only company that successfully creates goods and services that intertwines the two. It worked when Steve Jobs was at the helm and it remains the greatest question mark now that he's gone.

I gotta hand it to Cook. Like him or not, Forstall was instrumental to Apple's success and him leaving is a sad sight. Browett should never have been hired in the first place. But with those two gone, Cook is now increasing responsibility and oversight to a few top executives and trying again to create more integration and cohesiveness within the recent divisiveness in the company.
 
At first glance, I'm torn about this.

It reminds me a bit of what's happened to Microsoft:

  • Releasing products after years of wandering development, instead of sticking to a schedule.

  • Using one design chief across all products, resulting in throwing out great ideas like the Courier tablet in favor of Metro.

At least Apple is doing something about it. It can sometimes take a DECADE for Microsoft to change their culture.
 
This just reinforces what many have been saying for awhile, that they need to get out of the 12-month release cycle they've been locked into and release new software & hardware when they're ready to be released.
 
What about Bob Mansfield?

I do think the writer kind of forgot Bob Mansfield 'owning' manufacturing, along with Eddie Cue, Jony Ive, et. al. 'owning' their respective functions...
 
No. Get an Android if open products is your thing.

Yes. Totally open. Featuring GMail. Google Calendar. Google Search. Google Maps. Google Play. Google Chrome. Google Wallet. Google Drive. Google+. Google Voice. Google Goggles. Google Reader. YouTube.

Open. :rolleyes:

(Are people still believing that tripe from Google PR?)
 
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