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Apple's Rivalry With Google Gets Personal
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Bing is absolute junk. It would be poking out their eye to spite their face if Apple replaced Google with Bing as the default search engine.
That said, I think Apple should allow the user to fully configure the default search engine on the iPhone. Your two choices being Google and Yahoo is ridiculous.
That said, this story is bunk. If all they wanted was to tick off Google, they'd just leave things as are, and switch the default to Yahoo.
Eric's an cheater
Why should this guy be trusted in the first place? He Openly has a girlfriend outside of his marriage. Apple should create their own search engine, they can do it!
Why should this guy be trusted in the first place? He Openly has a girlfriend outside of his marriage. Apple should create their own search engine, they can do it!
Palm Vx...
Seriously.
This is going to piss off some of the most die-hard Apple fanboys, but I'd have to say that the Palm was a much greater impact on my life, in terms of changing the way I did things in business and personal life than the iPhone.
The Palm let me lose my extremely large Day Runner planner and combine my calendar, contacts, note-taking, and many other functions into one easy to use, POCKET-SIZED device that synced up with my computer. Prior to that everything was on paper lugged around and manually put into the computer.
What the iPhone did was let me shrink my PDA, Phone, and iPod into one slick device. The Treo managed to combine two of those, but it was a lousy iPod. Apple's iPhone combined the three well, but it hardly had the same game-changing impact on work & life-style that the first pocket-sized PDAs did.
It's a shame Palm lost their way, and didn't quite find their way back with the Pre.
Seriously.
This is going to piss off some of the most die-hard Apple fanboys, but I'd have to say that the Palm was a much greater impact on my life, in terms of changing the way I did things in business and personal life than the iPhone.
The Palm let me lose my extremely large Day Runner planner and combine my calendar, contacts, note-taking, and many other functions into one easy to use, POCKET-SIZED device that synced up with my computer. Prior to that everything was on paper lugged around and manually put into the computer.
What the iPhone did was let me shrink my PDA, Phone, and iPod into one slick device. The Treo managed to combine two of those, but it was a lousy iPod. Apple's iPhone combined the three well, but it hardly had the same game-changing impact on work & life-style that the first pocket-sized PDAs did.
It's a shame Palm lost their way, and didn't quite find their way back with the Pre.
First I've heard of that, and personally, who really gives a flying frak? That's an issue between him and his wife. If she's got no problem with it, what's it to you?
The iphone becomes a big game changer if you take advantage of the right apps for you.
I would think it was only an evolution as far as having all the apps in one place. Palms had been able to install 3rd party apps for a long time. Even from the device itself. Apple just made it easier to do with all the apps residing in one location.
Does it help that it was well-known he was playing around with early iPhone prototypes with his mistress (he's had many) before it was shown at Macworld? Keep in mind at that same time early Android prototypes looked like WM phones. Also keep in mind that Android was the first phone to come out on the market that heavily mimicked the iPhone.
Truman once said that if your own wife can't trust you, how can anyone else.
Is this TMZ styled reporting? What is it exactly in this article that sounded untrue? It has been known that both Jobs and Schmidt have both said disparaging things about the others' company/product. Apple is suing Google's largest Android handset maker. I fail to see how any of this is surprising to anyone.
As soon as Google stepped onto Apple's turf it was war. This is just like the old Apple/MS battle. Hopefully Apple has learned more this time around because, on the surface, it looked like the same thing happened again.
Equating usual business practices to a battle of egos sounds pretty damn drama'd up to me....
never
You will pry Google from my cold dead hands, Bing, tried it just did not feel right, sure more MS$ eye candy and not much else. As long as I can pick Google I will be happy.
Dam primate brain, I guess its true what they say, when people get old they get grumpy about everything. So "Steve" thinks that Google is more of a competitor than MS$, have steve rejections medication been checked lately.
Toxic level can happen.
Come on, competition is good, makes you have to think of better way to do things, and when is MS$ leaving the phone business? Crabby old men!
You will pry Google from my cold dead hands, Bing, tried it just did not feel right, sure more MS$ eye candy and not much else. As long as I can pick Google I will be happy.
Dam primate brain, I guess its true what they say, when people get old they get grumpy about everything. So "Steve" thinks that Google is more of a competitor than MS$, have steve rejections medication been checked lately.
Toxic level can happen.
Come on, competition is good, makes you have to think of better way to do things, and when is MS$ leaving the phone business? Crabby old men!
Go tell RedHat, Novell, IBM, Cisco/Linksys and the like that they shouldn't be making money off of open source Linux. How is Google's and the OHA's use of Linux any different than those companies?
It's clear you're not involved in the Android community at all. ALL the major handsets have their operating system's source code published and available under open source (Apache, I think) licensing. There's a vibrant and active community that improves the OS in many ways including better stability, more features, customization. It's all free (donations requested) and available to any end user that wants it. (An interesting contrast to Apple's locked down iPhone OS.)
Android OS developers at Google are available for discussion in Google sponsored chat rooms and email lists, and I've seen them release stuff ahead of Google's official release, and they're open to ideas from the community.
I really don't understand how you consider this to not be open source. While the romantic vision of open source is a bunch of geeks around the world working in their garage sharing ideas to make a better software, the reality is that open source just boils down to releasing the source code for public review and modification free of cost. Android does that, and that's thanks to Google.
If you want the source code, or to contribute, go here: AOSP (Android Open Source Project) website.
It's true that some people are too easily swayed, and a lot of users here seem to be suddenly critical of Google.
However, it's a stretch to cite David Pogue as an example of this just because he wrote a piece about Microsoft Live (in which he was mostly negative) and then a followup about LiveSync (which he did only after readers pointed out that he didn't mention in in the first article).
Note that I didn't even know LiveSync or SkyDrive (two things Pogue seemed impressed by) existed until your post prompted me to check out his blog for myself.
fanboyism at its finest.
in this entire thread i have yet to read anything solid against google. it's just fools regurgitating conspiracy theories and crying copy-cat.
Does it help what? Me to trust Eric? I never said I did trust him. I said that his extra-marital relationships were none of my business, and if his wife doesn't have an issue with them (has she filed for separation or divorce?), then why should I?
I know LOTS of people who cheat on their spouses. I know lots of people in open relationships of one form or another, from "go ahead and play around just don't tell me" to "I found a hot one for you to screw tonight".
Personally, I don't care if Schmidt screws around on his wife in public. I don't trust him based on other things he's said publicly about how Google should operate, but his personal life isn't my concern.
Additionally, Eric Schmidt isn't Google, certainly not in the way that Steve Jobs is Apple.
Good for him more women is a good thing for men, life is good single that is for sure. Oh wait not for men living in their parents basement but for the rest of us very good.
Wife trust what, that statement seem to mean nothing. A wife is just a partner in crime, your competition could trust you more than a family member so that statement is dudu.
The difference is that Steve is now a lot older and crabby so rather than been the one pushing innovation its more about controlling ever aspect of what what ever they want to make money on. Can't wait to see when finally Google gets pissed off enough and buy a companies or two with patents that will shut Apple up fast and hard, nothing better than the head attorney telling Steve, its over old man we have nothing to scare them with that will not come back and bite our own ass.
Yes, and not only that but if someone is going to criticize Schmidt for his personal life (I dunno if he had an affair or open marriage, but it's not my business) then Jobs certainly deserves even more criticism (for denying paternity and claiming to be sterile while he was wealthy and his child was raised on welfare).
It doesn't matter that Jobs is a douchebag; what matters is that he's a visionary and Apple's products are good. Bill Gates strikes me a decent guy outside of Microsoft. Doesn't matter because his business practices were unethical and many of Microsoft's products were mediocre. Likewise, IDGAF about Schmidt: what matters is that so far nothing Google has done bothers me (that much) and I like their products.
*shrug*
Pretty much. The fanboys will hate whatever Steve tells them to hate. If Steve's cat pisses on his carpet, the fanboys will suddenly hate cats and only buy dogs.
Apple can do no wrong, and the competition can do no right.
The difference is that Steve is now a lot older and crabby so rather than been the one pushing innovation its more about controlling ever aspect of what what ever they want to make money on. Can't wait to see when finally Google gets pissed off enough and buy a companies or two with patents that will shut Apple up fast and hard, nothing better than the head attorney telling Steve, its over old man we have nothing to scare them with that will not come back and bite our own ass.
Other patents don't suddenly change Google allegedly (keeping it fair here) infringing on patents. Why people seem to think that firing back with other patent suits changes anything about existing ones is beyond me.
I don't think it did, as quoted before the Iphone was not a big game changer what made Iphone really shine was Itunes, like it or not its what really makes everyone else just have such a hard time competing, as long as apple keeps churning out that one in all-you-need-jack-of-almost-all-traits we will see apple keep making tons of money on hardware.
Like all apple hardware, its good, its nice, and sexy
but would anyone buy an imac at full price if it was MS$ OS that was on it. PS. OS X would not be anymore an options.
I like Mac for its incredibly great OS, even if it was not as great but came out for those of us who build custom gaming machines, I switch over in a heartbeat to OS on PC.
Need that 3rd video card on my system soon, Crysis 2 is almost here hahahaha.
My comment about Farmville, which uses Flash, making my iMac insanely hot because Flash is poor on the Mac platform is "fanboyism at it's finest"?
You've clearly not been here long enough pal, and you've clearly missed my comments criticising Jobs paranoia recently.
Go away and stop talking rubbish.
Palm and Windows devices had plenty of applications for them, long before Apple came along, and you didn't have to go to Apple or any other centralized, controlling source to get them.
I had some apps on my Palm Treo that gave me functionality I still can't get with the iPhone, 4 years later (two-way synchronization with Quicken for one).
The "game changer" part for Apple was they were able to market the device to the masses and make it easy to use by people who weren't geeks - and that's big, but to the kind of people who would actually read this site, it should be clear that there are very few things about the iPhone that someone else hadn't been there, done that already with.
Just in my own gadget drawer (see posts earlier with pictures), I have the Palm Vx which was a pocket-sized PDA. I had the Ipaq 4155 which was a pocket-sized PDA/Web-browser/music player/application running device with WiFi enabled. I had the Palm Treo 700P which also did the PDA/Web-browser/music player/application things, plus was a cell-phone.
All the iPhone did was slick them up and mass market them, BRILLIANTLY, I'll admit, but hardly revolutionary (aside from the lack of a stylus needed) from a geek's perspective.
These are human beings. One flaw in one part of their life generally doesn't stay contained there. I have friends who aren't loyal but I also now enough to not completely trust them.
Capitalism is finally working out for us. Instead of Apple continuing to dominate the market and dink around designing little bells and whistles for the iPhone, Apple and Google are going to duke it out and create the most ridiculously useful, beautiful, and cost efficient beast phone imaginable.