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I just want a damn phone that works at 4G speeds EVERYWHERE....LTE barely works anywhere with ATT unless your under a tower....5G is going to be even worse.

Don't know why carriers are obsessed with speeds instead of coverage....I don't need damn gigabyte speeds on my phone, I don't even use my 200mbps home internet.
 
I think the big difference between 4G and 5G is that 5G uses small towers in many places instead of a few big ones.

Double-edged sword -- that's a lot of right-of-way or other leasing agreements to make, plus construction and deploying backhaul.

The crazy-sounding bandwidth numbers are just theoretical speeds based on the chips, borderline BS cause you'll never see that speed in real life (same with current 4G).
Yep. Remember all the claims about LTE also and how many years it took to get even close to the hype?
 
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I, for one, could care less about 5G; just because you can, doesn't necessarily mean you should. It seems like a lot of tech these days is not about addressing a need, but about obsoleting existing gear to steer you toward upgrading your products. Just IMO, ofc.
5G is a real alternative to the cutthroat cable companies if you can’t (like me in a rural location) or don’t want to pay for their services.
 
I don't see 5G offering anything significant over fast LTE. Very few scenarios will benefit from the jump in speed / latency. Shouldn't be too noticeable in everyday usage. What are the types of things do you think will benefit from having a 5G connection that LTE can't handle?

I'm imagining that highly congested areas / peak times would be better

perhaps it's fiber to the tower that is the choke point, but I was under the impression it was the spectrum from the tower to the phones

I suppose more 4g small cells are also a solution there, perhaps there just aren't enough of them as it is
 
5G is a real alternative to the cutthroat cable companies if you can’t (like me in a rural location) or don’t want to pay for their services.

From what I have read, it is this plus the "Internet of Things" that is the real advantage of 5G.

In particular, I think that 5G is a necessity to truly move to fully autonomous vehicles.

As for smartphones, I don't think most will see a real advantage of 5G over 4G. I think Apple is wise to target 2020 for implementation.
 
It's not about money, principles are though.

That's funny speaking about the company who has repeatedly been more reactive than proactive about their own labor issues.......... but that never happened. (Enter Reality Distortion Field)
 
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I don't see 5G offering anything significant over fast LTE. Very few scenarios will benefit from the jump in speed / latency. Shouldn't be too noticeable in everyday usage. What are the types of things do you think will benefit from having a 5G connection that LTE can't handle?
Latency matters a lot for webpages, especially newer ones with lots of resources coming from different places. HTTP sucks. Each HTTP request takes 2 round trips, not counting the DNS lookups. With 250ms ping, that's 500ms total. A request for a 5mbit file at 10mbit/s takes just as long queuing the data as it does waiting for latency. Most things get requested in parallel, but not all.

You can look at the timeline in the web inspector in Safari to get a good visualization of this. MacRumors front page takes almost 5 seconds to load fully for me, with strings of requests.

Realistically 5G should also offer more bandwidth than 4G. More towers, less travel distance. Could help with streaming videos. LTE can stream a video fine on a perfect connection, but it's usually not perfect.
 
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I can guarantee you, this will not make your life any better. The only difference is, your bank account will be damaged if you choose to upgrade. Stick with your X and XS until 2027 and let Apple feel the burn a bit. Just care the device and stop trying use a smartphone to replace what might actually be missing.
 
I can guarantee you, this will not make your life any better. The only difference is, your bank account will be damaged if you choose to upgrade. Stick with your X and XS until 2027 and let Apple feel the burn a bit. Just care the device and stop trying use a smartphone to replace what might actually be missing.
Agreed. Being on 4G, I've never once thought I've been starved for cellular bandwidth. If 5G is a detriment to battery life, I'll pass.
 
Today’s Intel reminds me of when Blackberry was scrambling to buy or build a modern operating system after being quite content to rehash their bread and butter rigs year after year and suddenly seeing new modern devices leapfrogging them. I think it’s too late for Intel. I think it’s just going to be a not quite so slow death. It’s not like no one else is going to go after their server chips too if they think that’s going to save them. The problem they have with desktop chips is only going to be amplified when their power and heat radiating chips are leapfrogged by someone else. And I would bet Apple doesn’t stop with desktop chips after their success on the mobile side.
 
I would assume it will be on their new designed iPhone. As with the 6, 7, and 8 models, I believe Apple has moved on to the 3 year design scheme. I would expect next years X/S/MAX design to stay the same or similar for 2019.

My prediction for 2020, notch-less with camera embedded in screen for full front display, 5G, USB-C and possibly a 3rd camera lens on the back to name a few.

I really can’t imagine what they’re gonna do with next year’s iPhones. Like, what else is there to do? Lol. Especially in terms of design.

We already have glass backs as a standard, stainless steel frame as a standard, Face ID... very curious what next year will hold. iPhone XI with mostly mostly the same design and then an iPhone 2020 (XX) with no notch?
 
This is just sad. Intel, as we can see with the performance of the Xs / Xr's (and noticeable performance differences of Intel vs Qualcomm iPhone 8's), is a second rate modem provider. Mediatech isn't supposed to be top rate either. Apple is totally committed to Intel supposedly.

According to the article Intel is having trouble solving heat issues with its initial chip. Apple is banking on using their next chip.

Apple, get over this stuff (with Qualcomm) and give your customers a better modem provider - its impacting the user experience (that's over the line for your customers). The fact mid range Android phones (using Qualcomm hardware) are going to have better cell network performance (modems) compared to top of line iPhones is embarrassing.

Hah that was my same thought with a 6S

We can do it!

Get the $29 battery replacement while you can for your 6s's.
 
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Looks like my iPhone 8 will need to last till 2020. Who is going to buy a 2019 $1000+ iPhone when you know 5g is coming the following year.

Yeah, but it seems the USA isn't even good enough for LTE/4G now in many areas due to the size of the country. I'd say the roll out for 5G will take quite a few years. I'd imagine 2021/2022 would be the better time to switch.

I think you could happily buy next year's model and then upgrade a couple of years after that and 5G should be kind of ready.
 
Hmm. I may buy an XS Max after all. I certainly don’t want to be a schmuck paying $1360 for the 2019 iPhone Max with a 5G iPhone potentially releasing the following year.

Honestly it really won’t make much of a difference since LTE is already good enough but it definitely wouldn’t hurt.

I totally agree that Qualcomm makes the better modem for sure. I made sure to buy the right 7 Plus for that reason.
 
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