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Apple's Safari Again Overtakes Microsoft Edge as Second Most Popular Desktop Browser
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I couldn't agree more with this assessment, and was heartbroken when Microsoft chose the Chromium base (rather than Firefox Gecko) for its re-invented browser. Chromium wouldn't have such a horrid monopoly in the browser market, had Microsoft chosen to keep competition alive with an Edge Gecko. Be that as it may ...
Obviously the multitudes of iPhone & iPad users use Safari/WebKit base, even if it has a Brave/Firefox/Chrome app wrapper over it - and thank goodness for that, to keep Safari viable against the Chromium behemoth.
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Wow, Windows 98 is considered a good release?
Guess the graphic designer forgot there was a Windows 98 Second Edition for a reason... 😂
I'll never understand how Chrome is so high and Firefox is so low. At work I'm on Windows and never use anything but Firefox. Same for my gaming PC at home. I don't even touch my Mac anymore or I'd use Safari there.
I use safari on my personal Apple devices. Edge on my work laptop and VMs, signed in with work account to sync favorites.
Oh, I don't know... maybe having some RAM free for other programs?
What is the draw for Chrome?
It ticks me off that my son’s school is pushing it. Even though every student needs to have a Mac laptop, they are using Chrome, because a lot of the sites they use for delivering education content or do student assessment on “run better on Chrome than on Safari.”
People don’t seem to realize (or care) that the browser is free, because it is a very valuable tool for collecting information on them that really should remain private.
It ticks me off that my son’s school is pushing it. Even though every student needs to have a Mac laptop, they are using Chrome, because a lot of the sites they use for delivering education content or do student assessment on “run better on Chrome than on Safari.”
People don’t seem to realize (or care) that the browser is free, because it is a very valuable tool for collecting information on them that really should remain private.
Nope, not enough of an enticement - I mean, it was that important, we'd see people leaving in droves, but nope, not happening.
I don't remember people hating 95 or loving 10, but everything else is understandable
There was a few months I used it as my main work browser but then they just kept junking it up, and still do. Now it’s relegated to the same task Chrome is, for me. Chrome for Google properties, Edge for Microsoft properties, Safari for everything else and Firefox for specific work sites.
We liked 10 because it was better than Windows 8. Of course, a swift kick in the head is better than Windows 8, so it was a very low bar.
One of the main calls our support center gets is people asking how to get rid of this full screen takeover and just get to work. Edge completely takes over the screen periodically to try to trick people into signing into a Microsoft account, changing default browser, changing default search, consent to send all browser history to Microsoft, consent to view page content to check for coupons, etc etc etc.
From a behavior perspective, the way the users see it, it’s basically adware at this point.
I use Safari. It works fine for me. I don’t find that any sites I visit don’t work With Safari. But, if I had to use another browser it would not be Chrome. I don’t trust Google at all and I don’t want to support them.
I wonder if these stats would be significantly different for mobile devices. Given the far higher market penetration of Apple in the phone and tablet spaces, I would think that Safari has a far higher penetration.
When I'm using my Windows work computer:
Firefox is still my main browser on laptop for any personal stuff; but I'll use Brave (which is Chromium-based, unfortunately) when I need an alternate browser.
At work I do also use MS Edge, as it integrates best into our AD and M365 apps - and honestly I cannot say much negative about it once I configure it to disable a lot of the heavy feature-cruft.
Firefox is still my main browser on laptop for any personal stuff; but I'll use Brave (which is Chromium-based, unfortunately) when I need an alternate browser.
At work I do also use MS Edge, as it integrates best into our AD and M365 apps - and honestly I cannot say much negative about it once I configure it to disable a lot of the heavy feature-cruft.
No reason to rejoice
Safari is hard to develop sites with , ask web devs
Besides , it's linked to the OS ,meaning it stops getting updates after 5-7 years .
Said updates that also occur very rarely
No support for dark mode either , closed extension, and many other issues
Really I don't see how that's good news
Safari is hard to develop sites with , ask web devs
Besides , it's linked to the OS ,meaning it stops getting updates after 5-7 years .
Said updates that also occur very rarely
No support for dark mode either , closed extension, and many other issues
Really I don't see how that's good news
I use Safari wherever I can--same as others, for privacy and keychain integration, especially nice with my FaceID and TouchID on my Mac. I use Firefox on websites that don't work well with Safari. I keep Chrome installed, but use it only when a website doesn't work well with either Safari or Firefox (like some healthcare portals), and then often complain to them for not working with Safari.
I used to work with chrome because unlike many here I can't work only on macs, so a cross-platform browser is mandatory.I’m just astonished there are people using Edge! I’m guessing it’s made up of MicroSoft employees and masochists… and there’s probably a high degree of overlap there
I still don't get why Apple can't put the effort into reliable Windows applications, it would serve them as a driving force towards their own hardware... but no they keep making things complicated for their users.
Anyways, Chrome is such a power hog that I tried to get back to Firefox but this thing also became an unnecessary white elephant. Other browsers are cute but always end up breaking a tool or a site I'm using.
Then I tried Edge.
What a hidden gem this thing is. It has all the Chrome functionality with the extensions, way better power management and I find it more pleasing to the eye. It also integrates very well with all the tools I'm using.
I get that for strictly mac users it isn't the best safari competitor, but as soon as you need to go cross platform it's among the best solutions.
Wipr IMHO is better than AdGuard for ad blocking.
That said Safari is lacking in so many ways. I need profiles. I would love themes and even colors as Safari is so utterly bland looking.
Chromium Edge was great when it first came out. Chromium browsers are just more compatible with the Internet, hands down. Using Safari or Firefox you will eventually hit a website that just does not work. At first it is ok, but then it happens again and again.
Right now Edge is a complete disaster. Microsoft, in its typical fashion, keeps adding bloat, and more bloat. Now you have side bars, BIG FAT Bing button, savings drop downs, pre-cashing of websites you frequently use. If you change away from Bing as the default search engine it will keep asking you to change back....or just do it on occasion when there is an update. You need an extension just to customize a new tab otherwise you get that explosion of MSN/Bing garbage on the screen.
As I said, Microsoft eventually destroys any good software with constant bloating and updating. OneNote was a good app....5 versions ago. Outlook is a complete disaster on any platform at this point. Teams, they just keep adding more garbage to it. I hate using it now. I just learned yesterday it is getting its own payment system. And just when you thought Teams was the "new" app to live in....LOOP is here and Teams is just one app in its universe.