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The difference between generations

Apple has the White 4, the Black 4, the White 4s, the Black 4s and the 3G available.

Granted, all the iPhone 4's, 4s's, and it looks like the 5's look pretty much the same. They are heavy, small, and look very 2009 or 2010.

Here we have a kid sorry macBOY comparing his car to one owned by a successful adult.

MacBOY likes his VW Jetta all tricked out with a rear air dam and glowing lights and a stereo that is worth more than the car.

The successful adult wants a sturdy clean looking car that handles well and is a pleasure to drive. No hassle and says I have made it!

My iPhone works perfect does everythingi need it to do and is a solid phone.

Who really needs a new phone every other month? And it is still a phone not a mini pad with a 5" screen.
 
Until the big screen Iphone comes out, then the Steve would have approved because the tech was now right for larger screens.

Remember that the Steve once said that nobody wanted color or to watch video on handhelds.... The Steve would say anything to denigrate whatever wasn't in the shiny Apple toy that he was selling at the moment.


Yet "The Steve" is listed in Time Magazine's list of 20 Most Influential Americans of All Time. Could you show me what number Ballmer and Gates are listed at?

*Crickets*
 
Yet "The Steve" is listed in Time Magazine's list of 20 Most Influential Americans of All Time. Could you show me what number Ballmer and Gates are listed at?

*Crickets*

it's a list. it's not doctorine. Or proof. And has nothing to do with the item you actually were responding to - you just wanted to post a random link. Not too different than posting spam.

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The Samsung and droid phones for the most part are ugly piece of crap plastic phones that look like they were produced shortly after palm pilots in 2003.

You're entitled to your opinion. But I disagree. There are some beautiful phones out there that don't look like crap plastic phones, as you call them. But bias will be bias.

Do you really think that Apple would build their systems with anything that doesn't exceed the engineering specifications and then stuff it in a tiny MacMini box or effectively sealed iMac? There is a reason why we don't see the low quality parts nor the enthusiast level parts in Apple hardware. They don't fit the engineering.

So back to Samsung, do you really think Samsung Electronics gives half a care about engineering? No. They only care about selling product. The carriers end up being the losers in the long run, when they promote a poorly engineered product and have to eat the cost when subscribers churn.

1. Yes. I believe Apple makes compromises when it comes to cost vs. engineering. Every company does. If you think Apple doesn't make sacrifices then you're deluding yourself.

2. Samsung, like any manufacturing company, cares about engineering. Especially a company like Samsung who is in this for the long haul. If you want to talk about some fly-by-night churn em' and burn 'em company that has one products and is just whipping them out while it sells as a fad - sure.

3. Carriers "lose" for many reasons. The bulk of their money is not made selling phones. They are made with service plans. Unless they've made a really bad deal with a manufacturer. You'll note that Sprint's deal with Apple has pretty much wreaked havoc on their finances. And I don't think the iPhone 5 is going to help matters for them either.
 
Yet "The Steve" is listed in Time Magazine's list of 20 Most Influential Americans of All Time. Could you show me what number Ballmer and Gates are listed at?

*Crickets*

Yet the link as Zero to do what you were responding to.

SJ was a marketing guy threw and threw. What he said and what really going to happen are 2 different things.

Like I pointed out before SJ bashed x86 up until the day Apple made the switch to it and then he sang its praises and said PPC sucks.

SJ said Apple would never make a cell phone or make a tablet. Both times Apple was clearly working on the devices and we have crystal clear poor they were when he said that and there is no way in HELL that he did not know about it. So yeah remember SJ is a marketing guy so put little faith in what he did say.

Now behind the away from the marketing **** that came out of his mouth he did some stuff in pushing in the right direction but things like SJ said there never will be a bigger screen is complete and utter BS that he said and if you really believe that was the truth then you need to get your head looked at because there is tons of evendences that points to the fact SJ was a great at marketing.
 
To further - SJ pushed his and Apple's agenda. If they were going to do X or adopt X - then he would praise it. If Apple didn't use a piece of tech or have a feature - it wasn't necc.


Yet the link as Zero to do what you were responding to.

SJ was a marketing guy threw and threw. What he said and what really going to happen are 2 different things.

Like I pointed out before SJ bashed x86 up until the day Apple made the switch to it and then he sang its praises and said PPC sucks.

SJ said Apple would never make a cell phone or make a tablet. Both times Apple was clearly working on the devices and we have crystal clear poor they were when he said that and there is no way in HELL that he did not know about it. So yeah remember SJ is a marketing guy so put little faith in what he did say.

Now behind the away from the marketing **** that came out of his mouth he did some stuff in pushing in the right direction but things like SJ said there never will be a bigger screen is complete and utter BS that he said and if you really believe that was the truth then you need to get your head looked at because there is tons of evendences that points to the fact SJ was a great at marketing.
 
To further - SJ pushed his and Apple's agenda. If they were going to do X or adopt X - then he would praise it. If Apple didn't use a piece of tech or have a feature - it wasn't necc.

Uh, is that different from any company ever?

I do believe Steve Jobs was an extremely influential person, if only for the countless startups that he influenced, both directly and indirectly.
 
Why is this surprising?

The current iPhone is old news and because of the hype surrounding the 5, fewer people are buying. I have used Samsung's current line. Not impressive at all. Many people will drop their Samsung androids the moment the iPhone 5 launches.

If there was no 5 on the horizon, I'd expect the distribution to be different.
 
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Here we have a kid sorry macBOY comparing his car to one owned by a successful adult.

MacBOY likes his VW Jetta all tricked out with a rear air dam and glowing lights and a stereo that is worth more than the car.

The successful adult wants a sturdy clean looking car that handles well and is a pleasure to drive. No hassle and says I have made it!

My iPhone works perfect does everythingi need it to do and is a solid phone.

Who really needs a new phone every other month? And it is still a phone not a mini pad with a 5" screen.

Considering I am in my 50's, you have demonstrated that you are clueless. The statistics wouldalso demonstrate that, but you saved us all from having to look them up.

How is your jitter-bug holding up?
 
Hey I know lots of people want an iPhone with a bigger screen. But for me I don't need my phone to be a mini tablet. Though I think I could deal with a 4" iPhone. Different strokes for different folks. :)

Exactly!. And every company in the world seems to get that concept except Apple.

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Why is this surprising?

The current iPhone is old news and because of the hype surrounding the 5, fewer people are buying. I have used Samsung's current line. Not impressive at all. Many people will drop their Samsung androids the moment the iPhone 5 launches.

If there was no 5 on the horizon, I'd expect the distribution to be different.

Why is Apple releasing one model of phone per year? You see this forum go nuts over every little crumb of a possible rumor as Apple plays their secrecy game, people agonize over the tech that's coming out and if Apple can squeeze in in their single little update. People here hope the phone has their pet feature/size/etc, express anguish when it comes out without the feature (but buys it anyway). For example...why all the hype around an iPhone 5? You have zero guidance from Apple on if and when one will come out.

Then you have a company like Samsung. They release several models throughout the year with differences to cater to everyone. There's never a painful wait in secrecy because there's always a next model coming out soon and they're pretty transparent about it.
 
I've yet to meet a Mac user that was dying to go back to Windows.

Some do, mostly for a specific app that currently has no Mac equivalent of similar quality/capability, but do so grudgingly, and then run back to their Mac when the task is done.

Read my post about 10 above yours in the thread. I already count for that.

You've met lots of people who have switched back, you just refuse to accept it because it hurts your narrow little world view.
 
Why is this surprising?

The current iPhone is old news and because of the hype surrounding the 5, fewer people are buying. I have used Samsung's current line. Not impressive at all. Many people will drop their Samsung androids the moment the iPhone 5 launches.

If there was no 5 on the horizon, I'd expect the distribution to be different.

Oh yeah, im sure tons of people who signed a contract with an Android Phone are DYING to blow 700 dollars on the next iphone.

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Read my post about 10 above yours in the thread. I already count for that.

You've met lots of people who have switched back, you just refuse to accept it because it hurts your narrow little world view.

I think lots of users have switched back to Windows, I never switched per say, Ive ALWAYS owned a up to date Mac ( lol ), and an Up to date Windows machine.

It USED to be, Macs really were better machines, they really performed a little better, and they had a better OS. Unfournty, its gotten to the point where Windows XP was just as good as OSX, and Windows 7 is better than OSX Imo.
 
Yeah except if you want to buy a really quiet computer you have to deal in things like thermal pastes and liquid cooling systems, that's advanced stuff and easy to get wrong.

Mac's are quiet because they're made from cheap low-end, low-power components. The sub-$500 PCs are a almost as quiet for the same reason.

When I run warcraft on my MBP for more than 5 minutes the macbook gets so loud it's like a jet trying to take off in the room.
 
Never underestimate the power of hype, and certainly nobody ever went broke playing on the capriciousness of those in higher income brackets. ;)

I'll give it to Samsung, their hardware and designs are very nice. Too bad the software they're running is inferior (took until 4.1 just to "catch up" to ios, and most will never get to use it).
 
Never underestimate the power of hype, and certainly nobody ever went broke playing on the capriciousness of those in higher income brackets. ;)

I'll give it to Samsung, their hardware and designs are very nice. Too bad the software they're running is inferior (took until 4.1 just to "catch up" to ios, and most will never get to use it).

Android is inferior, but the iphone form factor is outdated. I think the odds of an esthetically pleasing iphone are higher than a user-friendly android os in the near future (next few months).

Is anyone else ticked off by the hard click home button?
 
Uh, is that different from any company ever?

I do believe Steve Jobs was an extremely influential person, if only for the countless startups that he influenced, both directly and indirectly.

I never said it was different than anyone else. We were discussing how Apple operates and why they say one thing one day and do another on the following day.
 
Average consumers love cheap products and analysts are stupid.

samsung galaxy s2 and s3 cost around the same as an iphone.

when i got my galaxy s2 it cost as much as an iphone.

consumers like options and customization. i liked iphone but it was limited. jail breaking is needed to customize it the way i want. with android i don't have to do that.

don't hate because people want something other than an igadget. iphone is great but its not the only great phone on the market.
 
Android is inferior, but the iphone form factor is outdated. I think the odds of an esthetically pleasing iphone are higher than a user-friendly android os in the near future (next few months).

Is anyone else ticked off by the hard click home button?

So inferior, that it took Apple iOS5 and iOS6 to catch up.
 
Why is this surprising?

The current iPhone is old news and because of the hype surrounding the 5, fewer people are buying. I have used Samsung's current line. Not impressive at all. Many people will drop their Samsung androids the moment the iPhone 5 launches.

If there was no 5 on the horizon, I'd expect the distribution to be different.

lol. its funny because when 4s came i knew people who got it and returned it and went and got a galaxy s2. people are buying iphones regardless if a new one is on the horizon or not.

quite a few of my co workers brought i phone 4 right before 4s came.
 
Android is inferior, but the iphone form factor is outdated. I think the odds of an esthetically pleasing iphone are higher than a user-friendly android os in the near future (next few months).

Is anyone else ticked off by the hard click home button?

Whats wrong with a hard click home button?

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But I was being sarcastic. Just because that's the size Steve liked doesn't mean it's the end all. And if anyone is buying the phone as a tribute to Steve, well I just don't know what to say.

Who cares what Steve liked, he's freaking dead!

And he was more of a figurehead for the past couple of years than anything.

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It could also be saying that Samsung caters to people who cant afford other phones, no? Not that I'm saying the iPhone is a "better" phone, but cheaper things always have higher marketshare don't they?

Who the hell can't afford an iPhone?


People don't understand this, iPhones are not super expensive, its not like a typical Samsung is a Ford Fusion and a iPhone is a ****ing ferrari.

Its more like the iPhone is like the same ford fusion with the leather option.
 
So inferior, that it took Apple iOS5 and iOS6 to catch up.

Not really, since most Android users are stuck using the leftover crap from 2-3 years ago and will be forever unless they cough more cash now for another 2 years of no support.
 
75% of user are using Android 2.3 and beyond

That's too bad for them. :(

Trend Micro: Android Malware Likely to Increase Up to 25-Fold by Year’s End!
http://www.mactrast.com/2012/07/android-malware-epidemic-expected-by-years-end/

"According to the report, the firm found over 5,000 malware apps specifically targeted at Android devices at the beginning of the year – and that number has risen dramatically, to around 20,000 apps in a more recent accounting. That’s more that quadruple the number of malware threats in just over 6 months!"

"Meanwhile, iOS has had a grand total of one malware attack ever – and it’s debatable whether that should even be considered malware!"

Hmmmmm......think I will stick with the most secure mobile OS and the one that "just works - iOS!" :D
 
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