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Is anyone in the tech world asking why we need so many devices when all the research says we need to cut back massively on screen time to naturally balance our dopamine levels....
Pretty sure the dopamine system balances itself on its own (dopamine homeostasis), but it is the case the increasing screen time is not associated with increased happiness. We need to think about life priorities.
 
Is anyone in the tech world asking why we need so many devices when all the research says we need to cut back massively on screen time to naturally balance our dopamine levels, etc? A wearable device literally on/in your face when you are engaging with the real world seems extremely intrusive and I’ll hopefully never go there. Surely it’d be better if Apple focused on a future where people used fewer, higher quality (and more repairable) devices. I see the iPhone pro, MacBook and iPad Pro product lines as helpful for business and productivity in everyday life. Everything else is just a ‘nice to have’ non essential.

Caveat Emptor. Tech companies will keep producing more and more tech products, because "number must go up" and companies need to maintain and increase sales to maintain and increase shareholder value.

The onus is on the consumer not to buy, not on the tech companies not to sell. The tech companies are not obliged to work in your interest.
 
Hopefully they offer non-hipster frames for those of us that don't dye our hair blue.
Thin, elegant frames will be impossible to deliver because the bulk of Ray-Ban’s original 1950’s wayfarer design is needed to conceal the embedded electronics. Alternative styles will still be bulky, but they won’t inherit the Wayfarer’s iconic design status built over decades of seeing movie starts and other celebrities wearing them.

Meta made a really smart move acquiring the rights to the Wayfarer’s design.
 
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Strange, I thought they were working on this type of device, but eventually released vision pro and are now late to the party. Anyway, better late then never :)
 
IMO this is Apple chasing another product category that the vast majority of people won’t care about. Sure a good portion of people on MR, but not mass adoption.
 
Thin, elegant frames will be impossible to deliver because the bulk of Ray-Ban’s original 1950’s wayfarer design is needed to conceal the embedded electronics. Alternative styles will still be bulky, but they won’t inherit the Wayfarer’s iconic design status built over decades of seeing movie starts and other celebrities wearing them.

Meta made a really smart move acquiring the rights to the Wayfarer’s design.
Yep, smartglass sellers are desperately hoping chunky glasses stay in fashion, otherwise they're in trouble ....

It wouldn't surprise me if the glasses' designer labels doing deals with tech companies will push chunky designs onto all or almost all of their ranges, irrespective of whether they're "smart" or not, just to keep the design from being a dealbreaker.

No wireframe NHS "John Lennon" style smartglasses anytime soon. (We'll selectively forget that these were Jobs' own preferred frames)
 
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Strange, I thought they were working on this type of device, but eventually released vision pro and are now late to the party. Anyway, better late then never :)
Wasn’t there a rumor a few months back about AirPods equipped with a camera?

So basically glasses without the “screen” (and without the “glasses” too, lol)
 
I hope that, if these glasses do see the light of day, and they have in-lens display, they offer a left-lens option for the display. I am blind in my right eye from an accident. If the right eye is the only option, they will be a no-go for me.
 
I hope that, if these glasses do see the light of day, and they have in-lens display, they offer a left-lens option for the display. I am blind in my right eye from an accident. If the right eye is the only option, they will be a no-go for me.
More than that, I hope there are displays for both eyes.

Having a screen only in one eye ( a la Meta) is probably going to mess with people's eyes and makes people look really weird if they are looking at the on-lense display (both eyes will look down to the on-lense screen) - I wonder if Meta's smart glasses end up giving people "a lazy eye".
 
Yep, smartglass sellers are desperately hoping chunky glasses stay in fashion, otherwise they're in trouble ....

It wouldn't surprise me if the glasses' designer labels doing deals with tech companies will push chunky designs onto all or almost all of their ranges, irrespective of whether they're "smart" or not, just to keep the design from being a dealbreaker.

No wireframe NHS "John Lennon" style smartglasses anytime soon. (We'll selectively forget that these were Jobs' own preferred frames)
This is precisely why I said from the start of Vision Pro that the biggest hurdle with VR/AR/MR adoption ever getting anywhere close to smartphone levels is the convenience.

Convenience was the main selling point of iTunes Music Store, iPhone, iMac... what is this thing making easier?

The only way they're going to tackle an elegant form factor is if they make it possible for you to use any eyeglass frame. This requires putting all the tech into the transparent lens itself... At a minimum it needs a transceiver, antenna, and battery. But we're still decades away from this, especially the battery (that lasts all day).

That's just the beginning... the even bigger problem is driving usage with applications. There's really only one thing I want to be able to do with a pair of smart glasses, and I can't do it—not now, not a decade from now.
 
I honestly wish a company would just make a newer and better version of Google Glass. Of all the tech gadgets I've owned over the years, GG is still the most mind blowing piece of tech I've owned, even with its faults. Most people don't realize how awesome it is having a heads up display on, that you can only see when you look up at it (I still don't know how they pulled this off), that is controlled mostly by voice commands and some swipe gestures. I'd rather wear something on my face/head with a prism display like GG, and not have to wear eyeglasses/sunglasses or a scuba type mask like the AVP.
 
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@Kidseeghost & @Downundermac

Really enjoying both of your contributions here.

For how much Apple likes to discuss wellness, mental health, fitness ...

It'd sure be nice if they made some products with those values truly front and center in the design decisions.
More than just "better focus modes" or "parental controls".

This is where their financial obsession has created a massive conflict of interest.
I second your observation. I am new to MR and have great concerns over consumer tech thrown at us before society gets a chance to harness its potential to do harm.

I am not worried about gadgets such as the AVP. Few people will be seen walking around with VR goggles in public not only because of the dystopian facial wear but also because the masses will not be able to afford it. But glasses are a different story. That Apple --if Bloomberg is correct-- is developing a device that can be easily abused for privacy invasion in public (!) is disturbing, to put it mildly: The company that tries to set itself off from the rest by vehemently advertising its emphasis on privacy protection!!!

My concern for the potential for abuse is grounded in the context of Larry Ellison's impending buy-in to TikTok, his observations on AI & constant mass surveillance, as well as his son's purchase of Paramount+ as reported in recent weeks. There is nothing we can do with smart glasses that we could not do with the iPhone, except that such face wear makes it possible to do it surrepticiously. Google, Meta, OpenAI and even Apple apparently see much $$$ potential in AI and smart glasses. They do not have to worry about the potential for fake, deception, and surveillance because uses of this tech are not regulated.

As an Apple product owner since the 512K Mac, it is disappointing that a comapny known for steering the consumer tech bandwaggon up until the intro of the iPad, has been merely jumping same bandwaggon beginning with AI. Personally, I wished they would limit their business to the Mac, iPhone, iPad, and the watch with a primary focus on making the OS as reliable as the OS of a passenger airplane.



 
Can I pair them with my own pair? Seriously, I'm tired of devices that need another (from same brand, of course) to work. I would rather buy XReals or Viture that you can "pair" them with virtually anything that has USB-C video output.
 
Kind of shocked how is Apple behind in development. Where Meta needs separate control band, Apple could have already used massive user base of Apple Watch to develop more gestures. Considering how many people already wear dioptric glasses, this project makes much more sense to me than some VR headset.
Like Samsung releasing phone models with features that seem hip and cool but are exposed as unrefined and clinging to old paradigms when Apple finally makes their move, you and I have no idea how far Apple is or isn’t behind.
Meta releasing a pair of glasses with a single display in one eye, with AI that is very much not better than the run of the mill variety (I.e. it’ll confidently lie just as often as tell the truth) isn’t being far ahead. It’s Facebook doing what it has usually done; go fast and break things. While Apple does what Apple usually does; refine and finish to standards before releasing something.
 
I'm not holding my breath. 2028 seems like the earliest. They are far behind on pretty much everything. Under Tim Cook Apple is a mess.
They’re doing rather well, putting out products people want and are buying, what am I missing?
Apple Car, a bust.
Every single big company has big R&D bets that go nowhere. The only reason you dont know them and you know the apple car is you’re hanging out on macrumors instead of some equivalent for IBM, Intel, Google, etc.
Vision Pro, not a product but a proof of concept that you can buy.
Which very much seems to have been its whole point…
Mac Pro, missing in action. A pretty sad state of affairs IMHO.
That one I’ll give you but also it’s a small market at this point, they’ve definitely made the determination that most of that target that they want on that end of things is taken care of by the studio. The MP seems less of an Apple failing these days and more of a gift that they provide it all, it’s not the market they’re targeting.
 
It has to match what the Meta Displays can do...which i fully plan on buying a pair THE MOMENT I CAN...the launch of those things is horrific. You can only buy them by appointment and they dont have any stores near me that make appointments and the ones that do are 100 miles away and are sold out... the whole thing is a cluster f!

Apple...match what meta is doing but within the apple ecosystem and you got yourself a sale from me day one (or as soon as i can afford one)
Chill.

Slow chip.
Monocular display (unpleasant).
Horrible integration.

I tried them - This ain’t it.

Meta is perfectly comfortable launching crappy products. And that’s the difference.
 
It’s all about having a solid use case. I just can’t imagine a scenario where I’d want to have User Interface elements permanently in my field of view, and even glasses with a non permanent UI is a stretch because you’d have to manipulate the device in some way in order to control it.

I don’t think there is an elegant, streamlined product in there.
The answers are on demand and emg wrist band.
 
Thin, elegant frames will be impossible to deliver because the bulk of Ray-Ban’s original 1950’s wayfarer design is needed to conceal the embedded electronics. Alternative styles will still be bulky, but they won’t inherit the Wayfarer’s iconic design status built over decades of seeing movie starts and other celebrities wearing them.

Meta made a really smart move acquiring the rights to the Wayfarer’s design.
To me, that’s the most expendable part of the product. The reason they’re using Essilor Luxotica is not because it’s impossible to conceive of stylish enough bulky frames. It’s their distribution network.
 
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