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Apple's Smartphone Growth Slows as Mobile Phone Market Accelerates in 2Q 2013

Maybe Apple will finally decide to offer a bigger and wider screen, higher resolution, a more substantial battery, higher capacity without increasing the price by 2, and a design radically different from the iphone 4 .. .

Or maybe they'll persist in their obstinate way, letting Samsung increase its market shares...


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skratch77 said:
You do know Samsung numbers are mostley from there top end phones right? Like the gs4,note 2 and gs3 sales or did you some how think Samsung's 23billion pure profit in the last 6 months is from 40 dollar phones?
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While it's true that high-end Samsung smartphone models sell the most individually, that's in large part due to the fact that there's huge fragmentation with low-end/mid-end smartphones, with a bunch of them being models from last years.

If you want a high-end Samsung, you'll almost necessarily end up with a Galaxy S3, S4 or Note 2.

Now if you want a cheaper Samsung, choose between:

-Galaxy Ace
-Galaxy Ace II
-Galaxy Ace IIx
-Galaxy Ace Q
-Galaxy Q
-Galaxy Rugby
-Galaxy Discover
-Galaxy GIO
-Galaxy 551
-Galaxy S2
-Galaxy S2 X
-Galaxy S3 Mini
-Galaxy S Vibrant
-Galaxy S Captivate
-Galaxy S Relay
-Galaxy S Blaze
-Galaxy S Lightray
-Galaxy S Aviator
-Galaxy Europa
-Galaxy Prevail 2
-Galaxy Axiom
-Galaxy Admire 2
-Galaxy Express GoPhone
-Galaxy Ring
-Galaxy Amp
-Galaxy Appeal
-Galaxy Exhilarate
-Galaxy Precedent
-Galaxy Exhibit
-Galaxy Centura
-Galaxy Metrix
-Galaxy Victory
-Galaxy Attein
-Galaxy Reverb
-Galaxy Rush
-Galaxy Proclaim
-Galaxy Stellar
-Galaxy Nexus
-Nexus S
-Fascinate 4G
-Focus
-Focus S
-Focus Flash
-Focus 2
-Apollo
-Gravity Q
-Freeform 4
-Freeform 5
-Brightside
-Intensity III
-Admire
-Repp
-Stratosphere
-Resplendish
-Restore
-DoubleTime
-Continuum
-Transfix
-Conquer
-Dart
-Indulge
-Illusion
-Transform
-Transform Ultra
-Reality
-Gravity SMART
-Vitality
-Comment 2
-ATIV Odyssey
-Wave

So yeah, you get the point, hard for any of them to get any significant sales individually when it's competing with so much other phones in the same range.

That's similar to when Apple calls the iMac the #1 best-selling desktop in the U.S. and the 13" MBP the #1 best-selling laptop in the U.S. They don't have very significant market share overall, it's just that they compete with a very fragmented market, so while those facts are true, they're kind of useless when you know the context.
 
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Indeed .... Ignorance is bliss and perhaps innovation is no longer Apple's forte any more...and yes...maybe 2013 was the year even the fanboys couldn't make excuses for...but...they did get Brand Of The Year
Come on Apple. Straight To Six - The world won't wait another year anymore. A repackaged, souped-up, same as before last years model wont cut it any more. Those days are gone.

Wake Up!

No Jobs is the reasons Apple is going down the Swanee ...

No jobs is what Apple will be left with unless somebody there realises you can't get away with resizing the same old stuff incessantly and not think people might get a tad suspicious that the research department boys have,been on holiday for the last three years.
 
There is a real chance that Android will have 80%+ market share in both smartphone and tablets in the very near future.

It is very close with smartphone....

A year or two away with tablets.
 
MacRumors said:
Research firm IDC has released its estimates on worldwide mobile phone sales for the second quarter of 2013, showing Apple's iPhone growth slowing as it posted its second-lowest iPhone growth rate in four years with only 20% year-over-year growth compared to 52.3% growth for the entire market. However, Apple maintained a hold on the number two spot for smartphone makers behind Samsung, as other competitors LG, Lenovo, and ZTE failed to hit the 6% mark during the quarter.

ImageWorldwide Smartphone Shipments in 2Q13 in Millions of Units (Source: IDC)Apple continues to benefit from the growth of smartphones, as it held onto its spot as the number three manufacturer in the world in looking at total mobile phone shipments. Apple's overall unit shipments were up 5.2% from previous quarter, while overall market share rose 0.8% allowing the company to grab an overall 7.2% market share for the quarter.

Article Link: Apple's Smartphone Growth Slows as Mobile Phone Market Accelerates in 2Q 2013
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Looking at all these figures, I wouldn't be surprised if this lower-cost iPhone will come in even lower than it's previously speculated entry-level-model price of $400 to $450.

APPLE could make up some serious ground here, and not just only in emerging markets.
 
skratch77 said:
You do know Samsung numbers are mostley from there top end phones right? Like the gs4,note 2 and gs3 sales or did you some how think Samsung's 23billion pure profit in the last 6 months is from 40 dollar phones?
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You know that Samsung sells refrigerators, vacuum cleaners, etc... right? And I highly doubt that "MOST" of those sales are coming from those high end devices you claim. Also, Galaxy SIII can be purchased from under $400 from most prepaid carriers while iPhone 4 (from 2010) still sells for $450!!! Also, Galaxy S3 made a major push with advertisement, and it was overhyped. The hype died down with the S4 as it's sales are tapering off.

Fortunes turn quickly in the smartphone market if you make risky moves and trade off tomorrow for today (look at HTC). Samsung diluted the S4 brand with all that S4 Camera, Mini, etc... People are buying these Android phones out of hype, and the hype will die down. Than they make the rational choice next time and buy an iPhone.

The greatest example of this is the "Netbook" era. It came and went. Same will happen with these oversized phones or "Phablets". In the end Apple will look down with a great big smile sitting on 100s of Billions of Dollars.
 
Apple needs to be more like samsung with its phones,

More models (try three, the current size, a larger one, and make an iPad mini iPhone hybrid to make the phablet buyers happy)

Lower Price (iPhones need to be on par with samsungs best offerings, and they need to fall in price as the samsung ones do)

or...

Apple needs to do nothing, not worry about being 2nd in the sales figures department, and know its shipping a well made product that works, isn't riddled with an appstore full of viruses and spyware. and has the best mobile OS out there.
 
I think the new iPhone will have some really cool features. Apple has to do something.
 
Apple wants to keep its margins:
- Instead of being a little more generous with storage either for Mac or iDevices
- Recycle 20 times the GPU of its iDevices while the new PowerVR generation is ready for about 1 year
- Still hesitate to include a retina display on the iPad Mini, while the Chineses have been doing for more than 6 months
- Waste time with trials
- Change suppliers "every months", instead of investing once and for all in a company (sharp for displays, TSMC for SOCs).
As a result, the market punishes Apple, therefore customers are turning more and more to Android
 
ajcadoo said:
Impressive numbers from Samsung. iOS 7 is definitely make or break for Apple.
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These Samsung numbers are a lot less impressive if you look properly.

The real market is the mobile phone market. The "smartphone" market was invented years ago to distinguish between high-end phones and cheap phones. But in the last years, cheaper and cheaper phones qualify as "smartphone", making the "smartphone" category quite meaningless.

Apple's share in the overall phone market has grown by one eighth. It is now 7.2%. The stated goal when the iPhone was introduced was to get a one percent market share; the change in marketshare in the last year alone was 0.8%. Apple actually had the second largest growth in the overall phone market, after LG only, and higher than Samsung.
 
gnasher729 said:
These Samsung numbers are a lot less impressive if you look properly.

The real market is the mobile phone market. The "smartphone" market was invented years ago to distinguish between high-end phones and cheap phones. But in the last years, cheaper and cheaper phones qualify as "smartphone", making the "smartphone" category quite meaningless.
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Did you read S4 sold 23mil in same quarter earnings. Add maybe another 15mil of S3 and Note2 to that and Samsung easily beat Apple 31mil (out of which maybe 60% are Ip5 making Apple "high-end" sales more pathetic)

Apple's share in the overall phone market has grown by one eighth. It is now 7.2%. The stated goal when the iPhone was introduced was to get a one percent market share; the change in marketshare in the last year alone was 0.8%. Apple actually had the second largest growth in the overall phone market, after LG only, and higher than Samsung.
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But samsung added 2.3% overall share increase which kills Apple number of just 0.8% market share increase.
 
mib1800 said:
Did you read S4 sold 23mil in same quarter earnings. Add maybe another 15mil of S3 and Note2 to that and Samsung easily beat Apple 31mil (out of which maybe 60% are Ip5 making Apple "high-end" sales more pathetic)

But samsung added 2.3% overall share increase which kills Apple number of just 0.8% market share increase.
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Source?

If Samsung sold that many GS3/4 and Notes this quarter then its pretty amazing that Apple's operating income was higher than Samsung's ($9.2B vs $8.5B), and net income only slightly less ($6.9B vs $6.96B) considering Apple had no new products in the quarter other than the MacBook Air.

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/320193/000119312513300670/d552802d10q.htm
 
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Why not just register a patent on growth in market share?
They could sue Samsung pretty well...
 
Hmm so they sold over 2 million less iPads and the iPhones they have shipped dhow a three year low market share. Yeah PLENTY of people turning away from Apple these day's, not really surprising.
They desperately need to reduce the size and weight of the full iPad and get iOS 7 out. But if they don't give that Mini a serious spec boost I can only see it's sales falling further and further as the competition leave it behind. People see the screen all the time and the Mini's aint the best and looks positively pathetic next to the retina on the iPad.

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Steve121178 said:
No it's not.

Only tech enthusiasts care about iOS 7. The average user doesn't, they just want to buy in to the brand.
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But that same average user will also be bored of iOS if they have already been buying into it for the last few years, hell even techies are pretty bored of iOS and have started to jump ship.
I wouldn't say it's make or break but it's certainly very important and will boost sales.
 
thaifood said:
All the more reason why apple will benefit immensely from a lower cost phone that can be introduced to markets that are predominantly unsubsidised. Or even in current subsidised markets to create a $0 upfront payment for a handset as soon as the device is released.
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Yeah that cheaper iPhone, trouble with that is Apple states, or the people in the know state, that it's for 'developing markets only'. And that is NOT the UK or USA markets etc. So we won't apparently be offered the cheaper iPhone and will again only get the full blown top end one.
We shall see though.
 
Rogifan said:
Source?

If Samsung sold that many GS3/4 and Notes this quarter then its pretty amazing that Apple's operating income was higher than Samsung's ($9.2B vs $8.5B), and net income only slightly less ($6.9B vs $6.96B) considering Apple had no new products in the quarter other than the MacBook Air.

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/320193/000119312513300670/d552802d10q.htm
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Are you aware that you're comparing operating incomes for ALL the divisions and not just the smartphone ones?
 
The explanation for this is straightforward and not a bad thing for Apple though you wouldn't know it from the article. The big growth in the smart phone market these days is at the cheap end, primarily in poorer countries where high end phones play a minor role. Selling a $49 smartphone is not a market Apple will ever be interested in. Margins are very low and you have to ship in huge volumes to make any money and the quality of these phones is low from poor quality screens to slow processors to poor battery life, etc. in fact iPhone continues to grow its share of the high end market both at the consumer level and in enterprise.

As for the question of shipped v sold, that is a non issue these days. Samsung no longer releases phones shipped or sold data in their quarterly reports afaik. This is an independent report. It simply reflects the fact that in developed countries 50% or more of the people already own smartphones so the adoption rate there has slowed.
 
nia820 said:
Apple please please come out with a bigger phone in September.
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When the iPhone gets bigger then the 5, I will stop buy new phones, until the one I own dies. I don't get these big phones...If you need something bigger get a tablet...
 
Oletros said:
Are you aware that you're comparing operating incomes for ALL the divisions and not just the smartphone ones?
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Yep. Are you suggeting Samsung's smartphones, phablets and tablets don't account for a significant portion of their bottom line? If that's the case how is it these "record profits" came after the Galaxy brand became so popular?
 
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