Yep. Are you suggeting Samsung's smartphones, phablets and tablets don't account for a significant portion of their bottom line? If that's the case how is it these "record profits" came after the Galaxy brand became so popular?
I don't think this matter much for Apple as long as these are maintained:
1 - developers stay interested
2 - profit margins
I never thought for one moment that in the long run apple could keep up with Android.
Source?
If Samsung sold that many GS3/4 and Notes this quarter then its pretty amazing that Apple's operating income was higher than Samsung's ($9.2B vs $8.5B), and net income only slightly less ($6.9B vs $6.96B) considering Apple had no new products in the quarter other than the MacBook Air.
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/320193/000119312513300670/d552802d10q.htm
Then consider this
Profit
Samsung (mobile division) +52% (vs 2012
Q2)
Apple (entire) -22% (vs 2012 Q2)
Yeah that cheaper iPhone, trouble with that is Apple states, or the people in the know state, that it's for 'developing markets only'. And that is NOT the UK or USA markets etc. So we won't apparently be offered the cheaper iPhone and will again only get the full blown top end one.
We shall see though.
Don't worry, he'll find a way to spin that as well.
Indeed .... Ignorance is bliss and perhaps innovation is no longer Apple's forte any more...and yes...maybe 2013 was the year even the fanboys couldn't make excuses for...but...they did get Brand Of The Year
Come on Apple. Straight To Six - The world won't wait another year anymore. A repackaged, souped-up, same as before last years model wont cut it any more. Those days are gone.
Wake Up!
No Jobs is the reasons Apple is going down the Swanee ...
No jobs is what Apple will be left with unless somebody there realises you can't get away with resizing the same old stuff incessantly and not think people might get a tad suspicious that the research department boys have,been on holiday for the last three years.
The first chart is for smartphones only, so it is apples to apples. Apple grew only 20% since last year. Samsung smartphones now outsell Apple 2 to 1
According to this data, Samsung smartphones now outship Apple 2 to 1
Yeah that cheaper iPhone, trouble with that is Apple states, or the people in the know state, that it's for 'developing markets only'. And that is NOT the UK or USA markets etc. So we won't apparently be offered the cheaper iPhone and will again only get the full blown top end one.
We shall see though.
Samsung Electronics breaks out their operating profit by segment. Their mobile segment is 68% of their operating profit. Samsung's mobile operating profit this quarter was $5.6B USD, their total operating profit was $8.6B USDStill don´t understand what do you try to say.
Operating income for Samsung mobile division has been greater than the operating income for Apple mobile division.
Really, what are you trying to say?
Not if AT&T and Verizon follow T-Mobile example and drop phone subsidy.
They can do what O2 does in the UK:
http://www.o2.co.uk/refresh
With O2 Refresh, your monthly bill is split into 2 parts:
Phone Plan
the cost of the phone phoneplan
Airtime Plan
all your data, minutes and texts airtimeplan
So when you want a shiny new phone, just pay off your Phone Plan. Choose which phone you want next, and then start again.
Paid off your Phone Plan, but don’t want a new phone just yet? Carry on paying just your Airtime Plan and have a lower monthly bill.
Samsung fans seem to be happy about the obscene profits that Samsung is making. They seem to forget who is paying for these profits. Time to lower prices, Samsung.
Then consider this
Profit
Samsung (mobile division) +52% (vs 2012
Q2)
Apple (entire) -22% (vs 2012 Q2)
So even with a 22% decline for Apple and a 52% increase for Samsung, Apple still generated more operating profit. Of course these numbers also reflect no new mobile products from Apple in the quarter whereas the year ago quarter included the new retina iPad.
I had to read this twice because I honestly thought you accidentally put Samsung in there where Apple should be.
Are you being satirical in your comment?
Do you know where those warehouses full of not sold smartphone are?
I'm glad that you have found those statistics and you're trying to put them everywhere you can even if they don't make sense like here.
My point was, its interesting that with Samsung introducing new mobile products in the quarter and Apple not releasing anything other than MBA refresh in June, Apple was still able to generate more operating profit than Samsung.
Did you read the post I replied to?
And after all, there have always been accusations that Apple's success is just based on marketing, when Samsung spends much more on marketing than Apple but somehow that never gets mentioned, and there have always been demands that Apple should lower prices because they make too much profit, so when Samsung makes some good profit it's obvious that the same arguments used against Apple should be used against Samsung as well.
And it's not as if they are spending much on designing their phones.
How do they not make sense?
Do you know where those warehouses full of not sold smartphone are?
While the numbers may very well be true, the number I am more interested in is the number of units sold, not shipped.
You point, now that the "units shipped", "revenue" and other comparisons are not so positive, it is clear.
Really, don't you people get tired trying to find negative things to say from other companies? Can't all of you be happy with the results Apple make? And they are amazing.