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Apple's Stock Price Projected to Keep Rising on 'iPhone 8' Optimism

MH01 said:
So quoting you, you would rather have the famous apple functionality in 2017 rather than immature oled tech....though now you are twisting it that it's nothing to do with OLED goes back to 2007......

Which is is mate, cause you are moving the goal posts all over place. Or what amazing 2007 functionality is sooooo superior to OLED?

Do tell :)
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So you admit your posts were a deflection from what I originally posted then? :rolleyes:

Your posts are al over the place from what is a basic statement.
 
Bart Kela said:
You know that this is a rumor site and most Apple rumors do not see the light of day as a shipping product, yes?

Or did you fail to recognize that?
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did you fail to read the word "concept"? if not, do you think "concept" cars are often mass produced into actual products for sale?

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Relentless Power said:
So, you're making a sweeping generalization based off a fictitious mock up of an iPhone picture? Even if the author of the article changed the picture, that doesn't change anything regarding what the iphone will ultimately render.
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did you assume that I would think the "concept" will become a reality?
if so, you're incorrect. i'm simply stating that the concept artist render failed to address a UX issue (or simply didn't care about the UX).
 
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santaliqueur said:
While Apple's cash on hand is currently about $240 billion, they can't afford to buy all the outstanding shares, at $730 billion. I'm certainly no expert, but they might only need to obtain 51% of the company to gain full control, but I'm not sure that's something Apple is looking to do. They are currently making an incredible amount of money, so perhaps they don't want to shake things up too much.
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Apple cannot vote stock it buys back from stock owners.
 
The iPhone 8 is going to come in 3 models:
- curved glass front and back with a steal frame
- Ceramic white back, with a curved glass front
- Improved jet back finish, with a curved glass front
- 4 GBs of RAM
- A11x Fusion Processor
- 128 to 256 GBs of storage
- All will cost $1,000

iPhone 7s
- Similar chassis to the iPhone 7
- Primary colors: Black, Silver, Gold and Rose Gold
- 2 to 3 GBs of RAM
- A11 Fusion Processor
- Max storage 32 to 256 GBs
- 650 to 950
 
I7guy said:
One thing has nothing to do with the other.


Sure, evolutionary. The same fluid definition as innovation and driving too fast etc.
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It's the same technology driving both screens. If Apple feels comfortable using OLED on the iPhone the fact of the matter is even Apple believes the possibility of burn in is too remote to even be a factor . Further cemented by them going all OLED in 2018 and LCD going the way of the dodo

App Store and a Retina display are the 2 game changers which are revolutionary compared to the iPhone 1.The iPhone 5s,6 and 6s and 7 were evolutionary. From the sounds of things iPhone 8 will be revolutionary
 
I7guy said:
So you admit your posts were a deflection from what I originally posted then? :rolleyes:

Your posts are al over the place from what is a basic statement.
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I am going to laugh aloud when Anandtech reviews the screen and finds out it's a slightly modified version of the same screen Samsung by has been using in their phones since 2015
 
Radon87000 said:
It's the same technology driving both screens. If Apple feels comfortable using OLED on the iPhone the fact of the matter is even Apple believes the possibility of burn in is too remote to even be a factor . Further cemented by them going all OLED in 2018

App Store and a Retina display are the 2 game changers which are revolutionary compared to the iPhone 1.The iPhone 5s,6 and 6s and 7 were evolutionary. From the sounds of things iPhone 8 will be revolutionary
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IMO, after the iphone 1 they are all evolutionary. And it is true at some point you have to put a stake in the ground with technology as advancements always improve the technology. The app store is a deflection; you could mention icloud and it would be the same deflection.

But if anything, your definition, the 5s would be revolutionary, if the 4 was; touch id, secure enclave, 64 bit. Heck, this is a fun game to play. To your point touch id doesn't work well with some fingers due to a variety of reasons, so I guess a little burn-in never hurt anybody.
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Radon87000 said:
I am going to laugh aloud when Anandtech reviews the screen and finds out it's a slightly modified version of the same screen Samsung by has been using in their phones since 2015
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I'm going to laugh louder when they say it isn't.
 
farewelwilliams said:
did you fail to read the word "concept"? if not, do you think "concept" cars are often mass produced into actual products for sale?

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did you assume that I would think the "concept" will become a reality?
if so, you're incorrect. i'm simply stating that the concept artist render failed to address a UX issue (or simply didn't care about the UX).
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No. I didn't assume anything. My post stands exactly as quoted.
 
I7guy said:
So you admit your posts were a deflection from what I originally posted then? :rolleyes:

Your posts are al over the place from what is a basic statement.
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kettle pot. Coming from the guy who could not answer my question and has been deflecting since. How about going back to basics and actually replying? Or just bail....but this is sad.
 
I7guy said:
IMO, after the iphone 1 they are all evolutionary. And it is true at some point you have to put a stake in the ground with technology as advancements always improve the technology. The app store is a deflection; you could mention icloud and it would be the same deflection.

But if anything, your definition, the 5s would be revolutionary, if the 4 was; touch id, secure enclave, 64 bit. Heck, this is a fun game to play. To your point touch id doesn't work well with some fingers due to a variety of reasons, so I guess a little burn-in never hurt anybody.
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I'm going to laugh louder when they say it isn't.
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OMG you actually believe the iPhone would be a massive success without the App Store? It's one of rhe major functions your raised.....without the App Store the iPhone would have failed. deflection does not mean what you think it does :) when someone raises a valid point in a debate, you don't like its a supportive fact not deflecting. FYI read what function means.....you may find the AppStore is a major function of the iPhone.....as in the only way to get software on it and a major revenue stream....for Apple and developers.... No the iCloud is nowhere in the same league....
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I7guy said:
there really is nothing to reply to.
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No problem, have a good day. In the future either answer my question , or just don't reply, thanks .
 
MH01 said:
OMG you actually believe the iPhone would be a massive success without the App Store? It's one of rhe major functions your raised.....without the App Store the iPhone would have failed. deflection does not mean what you think it does :) when someone raises a valid point in a debate, you don't like its a supportive fact not deflecting. FYI read what function means.....you may find the AppStore is a major function of the iPhone.....as in the only way to get software on it and a major revenue stream....for Apple and developers.... No the iCloud is nowhere in the same league....
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Umm, again the App Store is not what this is about. Apple ecosystem is fantastic, the entire kit and kaboodle. But this thread isn't about ecosystem.
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MH01 said:
OMG you actually believe the iPhone would be a massive success without the App Store? It's one of rhe major functions your raised.....without the App Store the iPhone would have failed. deflection does not mean what you think it does :) when someone raises a valid point in a debate, you don't like its a supportive fact not deflecting. FYI read what function means.....you may find the AppStore is a major function of the iPhone.....as in the only way to get software on it and a major revenue stream....for Apple and developers.... No the iCloud is nowhere in the same league....
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No problem, have a good day. In the future either answer my question , or just don't reply, thanks .
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Have a nice day as well. Again, I didn't think anything needed answering from a basic statement as "great things from Apple"....
 
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santaliqueur said:
While Apple's cash on hand is currently about $240 billion, they can't afford to buy all the outstanding shares, at $730 billion. I'm certainly no expert, but they might only need to obtain 51% of the company to gain full control, but I'm not sure that's something Apple is looking to do. They are currently making an incredible amount of money, so perhaps they don't want to shake things up too much.
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Couldn't they just get a loan? Considering I put down 20% for a house and got almost 4x that loaned to me, $100B could get them a loan for the balance to buy back the shares. With their income no bank would turn them down.

I'm assuming they could also get a much better deal than me for literally zero interest and less down.
 
Relentless Power said:
No. I didn't assume anything. My post stands exactly as quoted.
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then what is your point? your statement "that doesn't change anything regarding what the iphone will ultimately render" is a given and nothing i said would suggest anything related to the final "render". it's unrelated to what i was talking about.
 
farewelwilliams said:
then what is your point? your statement "that doesn't change anything regarding what the iphone will ultimately render" is a given and nothing i said would suggest anything related to the final "render". it's unrelated to what i was talking about.
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I already addressed my point on page one and others agreed as well. It's time to move on from this.
 
It sounds like a yawner. Again...

But I honestly can say that I haven't paid much attention to it. Something about three sizes, and more colors?

Sounds like the time that Apple almost killed itself with 'too many colors' and 'too many sizes'...

Groan...
 
JGRE said:
While Samsung is paying ******** on commercials about quality to get there new phone accepted in the market (after the Note disaster), Apple gets all it PR for free from 'analyst'. Stock rising pure on speculations only. Timmy must be having his best time ever.
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Stocks always rise on speculations! I have never found a stock rising based on pure reality :)
 
Radon87000 said:
This iPhone is the biggest update since the original iPhone in 2007. Honestly they could have just updated to OLED and left it there as that in itself is a huge upgrade
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OLED manufacturing capacity is not developed yet, none of the OLED display manufacturers can make enough OLED displays to support Quantities required by Apple.
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crashoverride77 said:
Wow, the rest of your device is from 2005. What's the point?
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iPhone screen has better color accuracy than Samsung GS7, and none of the OLED display manufacturers can make enough quantities to support iPhone sales.
 
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IJ Reilly said:
That isn't right either. Since November the S&P 500 is up around 15% while AAPL has risen nearly 30%. It's all about shaking that period of declining earnings. Markets actually care about that stuff.

And forget the DOW. It's meaningless.
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Yes, I'l agree somewhat, but the real message that should be mentioned and thought about is that AAPL stock has been so badly undervalued for many years. Carl Icahn was right about aapl stock being a "no brainer" investment. Even now at it's all time high, it's still the best place to invest your millions of dollars - it is a safe investment and at the same time has a very good chance to provide a big profit. Why risk your money on any other stock?
 
BuddyTronic said:
Yes, I'l agree somewhat, but the real message that should be mentioned and thought about is that AAPL stock has been so badly undervalued for many years. Carl Icahn was right about aapl stock being a "no brainer" investment. Even now at it's all time high, it's still the best place to invest your millions of dollars - it is a safe investment and at the same time has a very good chance to provide a big profit. Why risk your money on any other stock?
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But it really has not been. Valuations dropped when earnings declined, which is exactly what you should expect. In fact, valuations for AAPL held up better than they might have done for another company experiencing several consecutive quarters of declining earnings. Valuations are all about earnings growth, and in that department, Apple wasn't putting out.

Valuations are rising again with the expectation that earnings growth is back on track. If they are, great, but if it doesn't come about, watch out below. Who knows for sure which scenario will play out, unless they've got special knowledge of the future that nobody else does? I sure don't. I've been in AAPL for 20 years; I've pretty much seen it all, and the last thing I'd ever call it is "safe." Most small investors should not be buying any individual stocks.

Icahn was in, made his big bucks, then sold off. He is now completely out as far as we know. Buffett is now in, and he has a reputation of being a more patient investor. So we will see about that.
 
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