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I bought a SE with the latest guts and no protruding camera and the battery lasts forever at about half the price of the last full sized phone. I'm perfectly content for a few years.


FROM 4S TO 6S Plus. I only do S cycles .

And, if this one is lukewarm, I'LL KEEP IT UNTIL SOMETHING BETTER COMES ALONG.

I don't see anything revolutionary happening with a smartphone.
Make it a projector too and we'll talk.
 
Is the iPhone 7 out already? I must have missed it.

Obviously we know everything about the iP7 and have reached an accurate conclusion that it lacks innovation.

Good thing no one has jumped to conclusions.
Speculating on rumors is what this site does. We're not commenting on MacFacts.com. And generally, these rumors have been pretty decent predictors in the past. The leaks of the iP6 specs, camera bump, antenna lines, and the 5.5 size were 100% correct.
 
I think their primary hope is with iOS 10. If that's a flop (I'm expecting more from Android nowadays), the next iPhone probably won't do as well as others.

It probably will be a great phone, dual camera, maybe 4k recording, possibly 4k screen, pretty amazing stuff. Like I said, this is probably an artificial marketing ploy

Considering the current iPhones already have 4K recording, it shouldn't be a "maybe."
 
And the No **** award goes to...

You'd think they would, you know, DO something about the lack of innovation. Hell, I don't even need innovation, just give me change.

they dont care. they'll just charge 100 bucks more to increase their margins and call 32 GB entry point innovative.

Also there will always be those idiots clapping at the next flop keynote cuz they obviously dont want their invitation revoked for next time

possibly 4k screen

chances are higher for Mac OS to become iOS than this happening :D
 
I'm really losing patience with Apple. Massive product line-ups, confusing for the average purchaser. No fresh design, slow/sloppy implementation of software, services and hardware. It really does feel like a downward slope.

Of course, the company can afford to let things slide a bit, they're no going bust any time soon, but I'm considering a move away from Apple for the first time since 1987. I've drunk the cool-aid, my entire ecosystem is Apple, but I'm about done. AirDrop is a mess, hand-off works when it feels like it, software updates are hidden and unclear, search in App Store and iTunes Store is flakey at best. iLife and iWork suites are forgotten and left in the dust by free and inexpensive software from small developers.

Where is the excitement, where is the fun? It really is stagnant.

Just my opinion, others will disagree with me, but surely all will agree there's been nothing exciting for a couple of years. No more 'one more thing'. The iPad is dead, the Mac Pro stagnant, the Thunderbolt Display as good as a fossil. It's a real shame. Incremental updates, while sucking all the colour out of the world.
 
I guess suppliers are reading our comments on macrumors & seeing we are not too happy with the way things are going.
 
I understand Apple is holding out a big change due to the 10th anniversary for the iPhone is in 2017 and thats when they are changing to OLED next year so the big changes will be then, BUT c'mon Apple, Give us something worthy of upgrading, at least make it water proof like the S7
 
Maybe iPhone users are finally realizing that these recent iPhone model "bump ups" aren't worth spending $700-$1000 on.

A few extra megapixels, a millimeter thinner, some whiz-bang features that no one really winds up using past the first month...just not worth my hard-earned $1000. I've already got a semi-functioning, sometimes-buggy iPhone 6 and I don't really expect a similar looking iPhone 7 to behave much different. So I (like many others) plan to keep my $1000 in my bank unless Apple can give me something worth spending it on.

OR, how about lowering the prices? Sometimes you have to feel the pain (lower profits) before the gain (higher sales).
 
This article is such click bait trash... NO WHERE do any of the manufacturer's comments indicate the "expected" (read, "pulling a guess out of my arse") slow down is due to "lack of innovation", what BS!

And how many times does it have to be said that Apple has a diverse manufacturing partner supply chain, and calling out a select few (cherry picking), is not indicative of anything???

Complete hyperbolic trash.
 
Well, I plan to finally consign my 4S to the role of being my GPS unit when I go hillwalking, and purchase the iP7 plus (assuming it is as good, or better than, existing models).
 
I think it's unfair to judge anything about the iPhone 7 yet

But according to the rumors, if they're true, I'm scared there's nothing much to see in the iPhone 7...
 
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Apple recently reported its first year-over-year decline in iPhone sales, with CEO Tim Cook claiming one of the reasons is that the upgrade cycle for the larger iPhone 6 and iPhone 6s series has stretched out longer than it anticipated.

Despite the launch of the lower-priced iPhone SE, that decline is expected to continue into the second half of this year. In reporting its first negative-growth quarter since 2003, Apple forecasted another revenue drop next quarter.

The sales decline is placing downward pressure on Apple's overseas suppliers, who have rode the iPhone's coattails to success over the past half-dozen years. Not only does LCD supplier Japan Display reportedly expect to post a nearly $300 million loss for the fiscal year ended March, but Nikkei reports that Apple's slowdown is also sending Taiwanese suppliers into a downward spiral.The report claims Taiwanese Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC), one of Apple's primary chip suppliers, may ship up to 30% fewer chips in the second half of 2016 compared to the year-ago period. The decline is attributed to the iPhone 7's expected lack of innovative features, saturation of the smartphone market, increased competition, and a global economic slowdown.Apple suppliers Largan Precision, LG Display, Catcher Technology, Foxconn, and Pegatron have and will likely continue to face similar declines in the near term.Apple is expected to announce the iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus, the latter of which may be branded with a "Pro" name instead, in September. Newly leaked drawings suggest both smartphones may have no 3.5mm headphone jack and a single speaker, while a dual-lens camera system and Smart Connector will seemingly be exclusive to the larger 5.5-inch model with 3GB of RAM.

Article Link: Apple's Suppliers Projecting Weak Demand for iPhone 7 Due to 'Lack of Innovation'
 
I could care less what the device looks like and how thin it is. I want software innovation! There's zero reason to keep making things thinner and add more ram when the device hasn't been challenged by any software. Update the IOS interface completely! Allow for people to customize things to make the phone more "Personal"! Seems like it's all hardware these days and nothing about the software that should be on the cutting edge.
 
Ok... Innovation... Steve Jobs used to create things to resolve problem people didn't have still. Jobs resolved with the iMac, a good all in one computer, with OS 9 and OSX... very simple interface. iTunes... easy to organize and buy music, iPhone... easy to use all in one... and then he died.

Since then Apple has just been resizing stuff and putting features together. The Apple Watch... buah. The Mac Books... they are getting only thinner. Any of the features enhances life any more. Apple products became "optional", if you need it you can get it. Personally I still have and iPhone 5 and I am fine with it.

Apple is a chicken with no head... running crazy until it dies.
 
Since next year is the 10 year anniversary of the iPhone, my guess is all the cool stuff will occur in next year's model according to the rumors.
 
Finally someone acknowledges the lack of innovation! Hopefully Apple gets a wake up call.

Lack of innovation????

  • First to market with pressure-sensitive capacitive touch screen
  • First to market with phone made of 7000-series military-grade aluminium
  • First to market with SSD NAND flash controller for laptop-class R/W storage performance
  • Still best-in-class fingerprint reader that cannot be matched for accuracy, response time, and security of any other reader
  • Still best-in-class SoC that with only dual cores puts 8-core Droids to shame in both single and multi-core performance
  • Most stable OS on mobile
  • Best-in-class update rollout times for OS
I could keep going, but you catch my drift...

There isn't really a lack of innovation on the 7+, but there is a disparity of innovation between the 2 models.

So you're passing judgement that there is no innovation on a phone doesn't exist yet and the world hasn't even seen yet? Gotcha...

Bought every single iPhone up to the 6. Now I am 'droid.

I feel sorry for you...

And the No **** award goes to...

You'd think they would, you know, DO something about the lack of innovation. Hell, I don't even need innovation, just give me change.

Look above to quantify just how much INNOVATION the iPhone actually HAS in relation to the competition...
 
So responding to the "Weak Demand" - I had the 6+ when it came out (my wife as well). We recently both got 6s+ phones because nothing about the 7 was something that we thought we HAD to have (yes, I know it's only rumors). The 1GB of ram in the 6+ was really bothering us (Hangouts needing to be reloaded every time we went to another app) and we both wanted the 12MP camera now. So, we upgraded. We're planning on skipping the 7 and waiting for the 2017 iPhone 8 as we both got the iPhone Upgrade Program for our 6s+.

We're so happy with the 6s+ (SO much faster than the 6+) that I don't see the 7 being much of a temptation.

Being the first in line of 100+ people at the Apple Store a few days ago (30 mins before they opened on Saturday), I can say we weren't the only ones thinking the same thing. Quite a few people with 6 and 6+ upgrading to 6s and 6s+.
 
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