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IHowever... I do most magazine reading at places where the magazine is going to be left behind for some else to flip through such as at the beach, by a pool, on the tube, a plane or a train. So convenient as such a device may be, in some circumstances it would be a pain in the arse.

Yes, you might actually have to pay for your reading material yourself. :p
 
That's cool, but don't we just call that a web page?

Completely different ways of making money. And publishers are run by bean counters who like more of the same as much as possible.

Also very different in terms of off-line use, when away from the power grid (or it dies), cost to publish, interactivity, ... and etc.
 
Yes, you're right, people over 30 who probably make up the bulk of book buyers and readers don't matter.

Cater to the crowd that doesn't mind having their eyes burn out of their head while they skim through a 500 page book on their LCD display.

The Steve has previously said that print is dead and that no one reads books so I don't expect a strong play for that market from him any way.

Their target demographics probably does include people over 30 who need reading glasses to use an iPod Touch... but now with an attention span much too short to read 500 pages at once (without taking a break to look up a word on widipedia, check email, IM's from the grandkids, celebrity gossip or sport score web sites, etc., etc.)

And their eyes probably already got burned out by being glued to 8 hours a day of flickering blank-and-white CRT television in their youth.
 
So let's assume it plays HD movies in 720p and uses H.264 (whatever) to save space, so how much space will a 4.7GB Blue-Ray movie take up? 1.2 GB?

So a 65GB device can store all your OS, music, apps, email, a few movies, a few books. All right there. Always available to your server, their server, the world's servers, via multi-homing wireless telco (3G, LTE), wifi, etc.

Not bad for $799. :)

Rocketman
 
So let's assume it plays HD movies in 720p and uses H.264 (whatever) to save space, so how much space will a 4.7GB Blue-Ray movie take up? 1.2 GB?

So a 65GB device can store all your OS, music, apps, email, a few movies, a few books. All right there. Always available to your server, their server, the world's servers, via multi-homing wireless telco (3G, LTE), wifi, etc.

Not bad for $799. :)

Rocketman

Blu-Ray movies aren't 4.7GB, they average about 25-35GB.
 
I have the Kindle app on my iPhone and I must admit, being able to read books on my iPhone is pretty cool. It's quick and easy. I can read on the go and not have to carry around the book itself, which is a plus. I do wish magazine companies (like wired, macworld, etc...) would make digital versions of their magazines. I can see that being big. Make it so that anyone who subscribes can download them and read them on the go.

Don't get me wrong, I still love getting print versions of wired and macworld in the mail. I still love sitting down and reading paperback versions of books, and I hope that if this tablet takes off they won't suffer too much. Having the choice of both media types does make me a little excited. Hopefully, my idea isn't too far off from reality.
 
The thing that makes the Kindle notable for its user experience is its e-ink screen. That lets you read in bright sunlight, and lessens eyestrain. If this tablet has a regular LCD screen, it will be a step back.

One thing I don't know is what a reading experience is like on an OLED, and how it compares to e-ink. If the tablet has an OLED and it's as good as e-ink, but with color and moving images, that would be the only way to give it a chance to be better than a Kindle for reading.
 
So let's assume it plays HD movies in 720p and uses H.264 (whatever) to save space, so how much space will a 4.7GB Blue-Ray movie take up? 1.2 GB?

So a 65GB device can store all your OS, music, apps, email, a few movies, a few books. All right there. Always available to your server, their server, the world's servers, via multi-homing wireless telco (3G, LTE), wifi, etc.

Not bad for $799. :)

Rocketman

A 4.7gig blu ray rip will take up 4.7gigs surely? :p H264 is quite a scalable codec, it's used in 'most' blu ray disc releases now and is generally a fair bit bigger than dvd sized. You can shrink it down a fair bit (huge file sizes are the best form of copy protection atm) and still have a decent video, but the only options are to do it yourself (taking a fair time and not being 'as good' as a production company could with a better source) or a pretty bad 'hd buzzword' rip from itunes etc.

Isn't the product your describing both a (limited use) laptop and an iphone?
 
The thing that makes the Kindle notable for its user experience is its e-ink screen. That lets you read in bright sunlight, and lessens eyestrain. If this tablet has a regular LCD screen, it will be a step back.

One thing I don't know is what a reading experience is like on an OLED, and how it compares to e-ink. If the tablet has an OLED and it's as good as e-ink, but with color and moving images, that would be the only way to give it a chance to be better than a Kindle for reading.

Amen!
 
Their target demographics probably does include people over 30 who need reading glasses to use an iPod Touch... but now with an attention span much too short to read 500 pages at once (without taking a break to look up a word on widipedia, check email, IM's from the grandkids, celebrity gossip or sport score web sites, etc., etc.)

And their eyes probably already got burned out by being glued to 8 hours a day of flickering blank-and-white CRT television in their youth.

I think Apple's target demographic is everyone they can get to buy their products. Tell you what, you don't make assumptions about my g-g-generation and I won't make them about yours. There are all kinds of consumers of electronics and media in all age groups.
 
If these rumors turn out to be true then I'm starting to see where Apple is headed with this ... hopefully another game changer and not another Newton. I don't think I see myself paying a premium for portable interactive content, but I'll wait to be wowed :apple:
 
So you are going to argue that the reason people get eyestrain with LCD devices is the angle being fixed as he did? Wow.

I have read books on virtually every kind of device available and the only one that has approached reading on paper is e-ink.

There are also thousands of blog posts comparing Kindle to reading a book on LCD and they almost universally acknowledge that the e-ink display is far superior for text reading than an LCD.

I personally hope that we see high performance hybrid displays sooner rather than later. Give me e-ink with no backlight for reading text and then a vibrant backlit color LCD in the same device for other applications.

Who's arguing? All I did was stated a fact and that is IM one owner of a Kindle 2 that does have eye strain
and I stated why and that IM not the only one.

No hidden agenda and no not gonna argue what is better LED or E-Ink. I'll let you make that call--))

:rolleyes:
 
paper reading products are quickly going by the wayside

this is an inevitable fact.

Apple can pretend it is leading the way, but really Apple is just a cog in the big-picture.
 
When I think of a tablet, I'm thinking along the lines of something like this: http://swapnilgirase.blogspot.com/2009/09/smart-google-search-devices-mindblowing.html How about you guys? Gotta add ability to run big apps with an on screen trackpad and stylus to aid in things like designing too. Hey, if we're gonna talk about rumors of upcoming products, we might as well dream big, otherwise there's no point right? Have a good day everyone. :D
 
The thing that makes the Kindle notable for its user experience is its e-ink screen. That lets you read in bright sunlight, and lessens eyestrain. If this tablet has a regular LCD screen, it will be a step back.

One thing I don't know is what a reading experience is like on an OLED, and how it compares to e-ink. If the tablet has an OLED and it's as good as e-ink, but with color and moving images, that would be the only way to give it a chance to be better than a Kindle for reading.

you wont be able to read anything on an OLED device in direct sunlight, see: Zune HD.
 
I meant I leave MY magazine and or newspaper behind for someone.

That's called littering. :p


I hope it's something across between a Kindle and a tablet PC. I think the concerns about the screen are very valid, though--a regular LCD just will not cut it for use as an e-reader.
 
For what it's worth, I did a detailed analysis of what it would mean for Apple to "re-invent" print media in digital form, concluding that Apple has three key things going for it that make it a natural:

1. A pre-existing 50M device footprint with the iPhone + iPod Touch that provides leverage for a new device;

2. A proven dynamic platform (read: integrated hardware-software-services-tools) for end-to-end content creation, application development, distribution, and global reach, supported by deep application and media libraries, and a robust runtime space;

3. A durable billing relationship with consumers to the tune of 100M credit cards on file (iTunes + App Store, Mobile Me).

Plus, the history of Steve Jobs dating back to Next suggests that this is strategic to him (and thus, Apple), something the post covers:

Rebooting the Book (One Apple iPad Tablet at a Time)
http://bit.ly/zOoEu

Check it out if interested.

Mark
 
Brilliant

Brilliant move by Apple if true.

This could really be the Print Industry Game Changer.

Consider this:

1) Distribution: iTunes App Store.

2) Pricing Model: Already in place with App Store low cost .99¢ and up content pricing.

3) Custom Applications: CNN just released a custom iTunes News App. I can see the major and minor print news vendors doing the same. Apps are what provides uniqueness between outlets

4) Tablet with portable, readable screen.

5) Ease of use via the iPhone OS. Makes sense.

6) WebKit with publishing app integration for content providers.

This could really be an industry changer.
 
This could be an incredible development for students like me.

I just hope it has pressure sensitivity. That would be instant sale.

Why?

Wouldn't a pressure sensitive BlueTooth stylus give you what you want?

... or are you into finger painting and paper mache?

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For what it's worth, I did a detailed analysis of what it would mean for Apple to "re-invent" print media in digital form, concluding that Apple has three key things going for it that make it a natural:

1. A pre-existing 50M device footprint with the iPhone + iPod Touch that provides leverage for a new device;

2. A proven dynamic platform (read: integrated hardware-software-services-tools) for end-to-end content creation, application development, distribution, and global reach, supported by deep application and media libraries, and a robust runtime space;

3. A durable billing relationship with consumers to the tune of 100M credit cards on file (iTunes + App Store, Mobile Me).

Plus, the history of Steve Jobs dating back to Next suggests that this is strategic to him (and thus, Apple), something the post covers:

Rebooting the Book (One Apple iPad Tablet at a Time)
http://bit.ly/zOoEu

Check it out if interested.

Mark

Excellent Article and very valid Analysis.

I think it's safe to say we now know what Apple has up its sleeve, so to speak.
 
Come on people, two screens

Get on board with the two screens idea. It's the only way this makes sense. Anything this big and portable has to protect the screen and allow for typing input. Add that to all the rumors about multiple screen sizes and you've got a device that opens like a book, can be oriented either direction, and the bottom or left screen (for righties) is a multi-touch input device that can also be a key board. When oriented like a book both screens can display text. The whole thing has hand-writing/stylus input and when you want to show a movie you fold the bottom screen all the way back and use it as a stand.
 
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