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The comments so far are gross and ignorant. How disappointing. It seems people truly have no decency anymore.
No, not really. I’m glad to know that more folks are on my side than not, especially since weaselboy keeps moderating my posts. This way I don’t have to say anything!

Loving the support for our own constituents. Too many handouts...
 
Or you're just naive. The "left" is so fake (not even left) it's disgusting. All they care about are slaves, who else will work their asses off for your stupid iPhones. Poor people buy into the scam much more easily and can be controlled effortlessly. Instead of caring about true people's freedom which means building your OWN country from shtholes that they are, they want these people locked in invisible chains working for them.

Do we know each other? No. So dispense with the name-calling. I'm far from naïve.

As for the rest of your nonsensical tirade...was there an overall point you were trying to make?
 
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It is unfortunate that their parents broke the law, but why not support immigration reforms that will keep these parents from coming over illegally so we don't have to do this again?
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And what has illegal immigration has to do with the topic at all....

We are not talking of the atlantic slave trade here...now, that did some damage, and not to america...these are paid individual who pay taxes, rent, foods and so on.

How did they get here?
 
So, are you saying that all children of illegal immigrants should be deported, even the ones who were born in the US? That's what it sounds like. What about grand-children of illegal immigrants, are you counting them as well?
I didn’t say anything deporting. But if all you have to do is cross America’s borders illegally to have all the rights of a legal citizen, then we have no law, no borders, no country.
 
Tim has lost ALL political sway now that the government is looking into Apple's manipulation of phones (CPU throttling).

Uh oh. Update... Timmy is fighting back. Says apple is suspending battery replacement program for a few months. Batteries / DACA / Congressional inquiry. This is getting ugly (and political) quickly!
 
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It is unfortunate that their parents broke the law, but why not support immigration reforms that will keep these parents from coming over illegally so we don't have to do this again?
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How did they get here?
You mean how too many on left (currently - as the right did the same stupid crap in the 80's) want to do to this AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.
Everything the US has done in the last 30-40 years with the exception of the last year has been about encouraging illegal immigration and if they make it too easy on the current batch of illegals, you're going to end up with the exact same problem again in 10-15 years with the same line again: "These poor 15 year old kids were brought over with no fault of their own so we should give them amnesty again..."

Too bad for those other useful idiots who waited in line for over a decade to come in legally...
 
You are forgetting USA is made of immigrants unless you count native americans, mostly europeans that weren't doing that well in europe, looking for a piace of land to steal from the rightfull owner, and behind the greatest invention and social and cultural revolutions in the american history there are always immigrant. You should be praud of this.

You are both ignorant and racist, I'm not saying this to offend you, but It's really all I can think of.

But you can't allow free immigration into the USA forever.
 
At least this issue is in the proper venue: Congress.

For those on the Left, your side gets a representative say in the decision, and for those on the Right, the same. For those that believe in the Constitution, at least this follows the process found in Article I.
THIS is the point that needs to be made. The press has tried to make Trump out to be Satan over it when really he's just been trying to get Congress to finally do the job it's put off for far too long. I've been in turns bemused, amused, infuriated and appalled by Trump, but in this, he gets my respect.
 
You are forgetting USA is made of immigrants unless you count native americans, mostly europeans that weren't doing that well in europe, looking for a piace of land to steal from the rightfull owner, and behind the greatest invention and social and cultural revolutions in the american history there are always immigrant. You should be praud of this.

You are both ignorant and racist, I'm not saying this to offend you, but It's really all I can think of.

The left has a convenient way of making "illegal immigration" and "immigration" synonyms and they are not. There is a process for legal immigration and the USA is made up of immigrants. It is something to be proud of. The legal immigration process, and path to citizenship has requirements.

Name calling doesn't really help you make your argument.

So, are you saying that all children of illegal immigrants should be deported, even the ones who were born in the US? That's what it sounds like. What about grand-children of illegal immigrants, are you counting them as well?

There are consequences for breaking the law, and yes... children sometimes suffer consequences of parents making dumb and illegal decisions. But that aside, I believe the matter is in the hands of congress to decide if they are going to legally change a process that the prior president didn't properly take through congress... so that is what created this mess.


The reality is that DACA was supposed to be a "deferral", not a waiver. It gave those illegals who were brought here as a child 2 years to get legal. Good in theory, but typically when you try to give things away to people that haven't taken steps to earn it (and becoming a legal citizen of the USA is something that should be earned, or it has no value), and who feel entitled, it usually backfires.

Based on the graphic below, you will find that a small percentage of the people in DACA have actually taken the steps to become legal within the 2 years that they were given to do so. So DACA is a total failure, buy this chart alone. If this had worked, then you'd have fewer than 100,000 even in DACA anymore, because the rest would have had time to get legal. In my opinion, there should be no renewals. If someone is given 2 YEARS to go through the legal process and they've not done it, then they are not serious about becoming a legal citizen of the US and shouldn't be here. That might actually create an incentive to change behavior.

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You are forgetting USA is made of immigrants unless you count native americans, mostly europeans that weren't doing that well in europe, looking for a piace of land to steal from the rightfull owner, and behind the greatest invention and social and cultural revolutions in the american history there are always immigrant. You should be praud of this.

You are both ignorant and racist, I'm not saying this to offend you, but It's really all I can think of.

Are immigrants a race now?

I love when this comes up, because I am an immigrant except that I came here legally and still and a permanent US resident. People who make the argument “America is made up of immigrants” seem to always assume that means all immigrants are equal. There are those of us who obey the law and those who ignore it and get protected for it.
 
Are immigrants a race now?

I love when this comes up, because I am an immigrant except that I came here legally and still and a permanent US resident. People who make the argument “America is made up of immigrants” seem to always assume that means all immigrants are equal. There are those of us who obey the law and those who ignore it and get protected for it.

How did a child born in the US break the law?
 
But you can't allow free immigration into the USA forever.

Have you read his comment, hi only said that immigrants are responsible for quality drop...this is pre-WW2 stuff, we are close to the concept of humans and sub-humans.

In regards of your topics, egoistically I'm fine with the restriction, this means more investement in foreign countries.
I'm glad I can work in europe in a top 5 fortune 500 it company now, a much higher rateo of salary/living cost and social services.

Keep pushing guys! If China has manufacturing I guess we will be happy to take ops and R&D
 
  1. Apple has defended Net Neutrality
  2. Children should not be held responsible for what their parents did. Especially when they are paying taxes and supporting the country better than some actual Americans.

Apple has very prominent holes in their product ecosystem.
Apple has been slipping on security issues recently.

Tim Cook is not performing up to par on his primary responsibility. He's spent a lot of Apple PR time and money on Washington political partisanship and useless Hollywood celebrity hires.

He's either rudderless or bored. Either are fine reasons for an early retirement.
 
Nope. Apple has truly gone the way of stupidity. Tim Cook, the vaunted supply chain guy, can't even get products to the market in a reasonable time because he's too busy virtue signaling to every cause that gets him hot and bothered, hanging out with second rate music acts, and setting himself up for a cushy retirement at the expense of the customer.

Stop supporting stupid causes and start at least pretending you are a big boy and run your company.
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Apple has very prominent holes in their product ecosystem.
Apple has been slipping on security issues recently.

Tim Cook is not performing up to par on his primary responsibility. He's spent a lot of Apple PR time and money on Washington political partisanship and useless Hollywood celebrity hires.

He's either rudderless or bored. Either are fine reasons for an early retirement.


You are 100% right.
 
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