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Beyond the limited functionality a screen on the HomePod would offer, the reason Apple shouldn’t be adding a screen is that it’s going to add cost to an already overpriced speaker. They should take the development budget and use it instead to discount the price, if they really want to increase the user base. I’d fill my house with them if they were $200 or less and still offered the fidelity, which the minis clearly do not.
 
Don't most place their homepods somewhere that they don't plan on touching all of the time? This seems like one of those "do it just to do it" things instead of doing something to actually make the homepods better. How about being able to connect with an hdmi cord (let's be real airplay is good most of the time but still has issues with not working properly (like one speaker playing while the other doesn't when paired together). Also, let's let people use the full-sized and mini homepods together. Would love to put a stereo pair of full size with a stereo pair of minis for a true surround sound environment.
Seems like you should buy different speakers which re moe suited to your purpose, because it's like you're trying to turn the iPhone into a traditional landline.
 
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if only we had a screen to know what was playing on the HomePod and control the volume and control settings. If only that was on a phone or watch…

Yea. I think I’ll continue to sit on the couch and control the music from my watch or phone rather than having to walk over to the HomePod to do it. Who is the market for this?

If it had a rotating screen with a camera on it I could toss in the kitchen so I could FaceTime while I cooked I would be all about it.
 
What a dumb, stupid, idiotic and senseless idea. I want to be able to SEE the screen in FRONT of me whilst sitting, etc. Also, why have a dumb screen with a dumb Siri? Apple is taking a right at the fork when they should have taken a left.
 
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BEST HOPE
  1. Separate the "Smarts" from the "Dumb" (the speaker) part, so the smarts can be upgraded over time without having to "throw baby- the whole baby- out with the bathwater." Maybe the "smarts" can be magnetically attached to the top or screwed/latched down to the "dumb" part and then future "smarts" upgrades involves buying only the "smarts" top... NOT an entire speaker again.
  2. AUX port so that it isn't so married (locked down) to the walled garden, and can survive the point when Apple decides to vintage the "smarts" (I'm looking at you Gen 1, not much further down the road).
  3. Since people seem to want an Apple surround sound setup, focus some energy on building the missing pieces: great center speaker, surround speakers, subwoofer, true ATMOS (overhead) speakers and get the system software working flawlessly with all of that.
(IMMEDIATE ACTIONABLE) REALITY
If you want #1, use the "smarts" you already have in your iDevice, Mac and AppleTV with a "dumb" speaker setup with Receiver as hub. You're going to be regularly updating that kind of Apple "smarts" anyway (new iPhone every few years for example), so no need marrying more of the same to the speaker such that when those smarts fail or are made obsolete, you have to trash the speaker too. Bonus: great dumb speakers will still sound just as great 20 or 30 years from now... unlike current HPs which will be trashed not long after Apple decides to vintage their smarts, if not before because the smarts fail and/or owner wants pairing with new generations and Apple doesn't support it to sell more units of the new version.

If you want #2, do what was just suggested. The Receiver will have every kind of input and thus work with every kind of thing that can generate audio... not just things you can connect via only HDMI and/or stream (which is actually a LOT of audio things). A Receiver + dumb speakers is nearly the opposite of HPs: about as OPEN as possible.

If you want #3, it has existed with the "just suggested" since about 1991. If you want true ATMOS, buy a true ATMOS Receiver and put some actual speakers in the ceiling so you have the real thing... not a (marketing spin) faux version.

If you want #3 and also "smarts" as some kind of hybrid option, look to Sonos, who already has full surround sound setups with already debugged & refined software and already compatible with about all sources of audio. Sonos has airplay 2, works with Apple Music (as well as over a hundred other services too) and you can use Siri to control it via the Siri in your AppleTV or iDevice or Mac. It "just works" NOW- today- instead of hoping that Apple may get around to making additional HP products and building out similar software to work like that.

While I strongly endorse the Receiver + "dumb" speakers as the ultimate for very best home theater setup, I have helped a few people who really wanted soundbar-based surround go with the Sonos Ultimate Immersive (top rated Arc soundbar + top Rated 300s as surrounds + their full-sized Subwoofer) in typical sized living rooms and it sounds very, very good. They have cheaper setups using some of their lessor speakers but that one is basically their BEST setup.

Anyone wanting to make the leap to full surround today in a "smart" speaker setup should go in this direction. If doing it in one (purchase) hop is too dear, one could start with perhaps a refurbed Arc (for the price of < 3 HPs) and then add the other pieces over time.

IMO, HPs best use is their originally-intended use: music in rooms where you don't typically have speakers for sound. If you already have HPs and hunger for a real surround sound system, you could jump there as soon as today with Receiver + dumb speakers or Sonos (or similar) and move the HPs to other rooms where you don't have audio.

Can you "whole home audio" some mix of Receiver + Dumbs AND/OR Sonos AND HPs? Yes you can. Be sure the Receiver has Airplay- most of them do these days. Then you can airplay pair any combination of them to play audio wherever you have any combination of speakers placed, included throughout the entire home.

Use the Home app to bundle speakers in rooms together. Here's a pretty good, recent description of how to do it with mixed brands of speakers. Then use the Group feature in the same app to bundle rooms for a "whole home" group. Then in one Siri command you can ask it to play your favorite Music/iTunes playlist throughout the entire home... or in 1+ individual rooms, etc... and it will magically sync the speakers- even if they are different brands- so they are all playing at the exact same time. It "just works," even if there is no HPs involved at all. I do this frequently with a mix of dumb speakers + Sonos in a few rooms + a few more (a separate speaker brand) outside on the deck.

You can have whatever you want right now if you want it. You just have to "think different" by embracing some great speakers beyond the wall. There are PLENTY of fantastic speakers out there by companies entirely focused on making speakers and only speakers. Sneak outside when the guards aren't looking and "listen around" with your own ears.
 
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Despite all its obvious shortcomings as an overall product that are more than well mentioned here, I still love my 2nd gen. I am just glad Apple is investing in the product further as there is so much untapped potential here. The last thing I want to see is the full size version discontinued again. As a speaker and a few added conveniences, it hits the sweet spot for me personally in terms of what I use it for.
 
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I am afraid that a speaker that sounds average in this price range will be much more expensive after it receives a display and still sound mediocre. Siri, I don't care
 
A small screen could help with setup. Going to a large screen would be essential if it were a HomeKit console, kitchen computer, or for meetings.

I personally don’t care about the later, so a small upwards facing screen is fine.
 
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You know, I've been thinking, and I feel like this touchscreen HomePod is going to play into how Apple revamps Siri and its current AI products because of the rise of ChatGPT and Artificial Intelligence and stuff like that. I feel like this might play a big role in that.
 
I'd rather this speaker become less smart.

Unless Apple can dramatically improve Siri, just give us a better dumb speaker with audio jacks and a built in battery for wireless use.
 
Don't really see the use for a screen on top of a speaker. Sure, its cool when you walk over to see what song that's being played but it feels a bit unnecessary.
I would focus on getting more third party support and better network connectivity. This is why I went with Sonos rather than Apple and why I stick to Sonos.
I love the voicecontrol that comes with Sonos but its very limited and far from what Siri can deliver today.
Haven't tried Siri on the homepod but it can't be worse than Sonos solution.

Maybe the future S10 chip will find its way to the homepod and that might use Wifi6?
Replying to my own post but just found out I can hook up my Sonos speakers to Apple Home and shout at Siri demanding her to play stuff on Spotify on my Sonos speakers. Maybe its common knowledge but didn't have a clue it was possible.

Brilliant solution and I have to say Siri has really improved since I last used it.
 
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How about they issue software fixes for the prior gen HPs before putting out a 3rd gen? Left/right pairing, aTV connection, AirPlay handling, Siri understanding basic music requests: all super buggy and Apple apparently doesn’t give a 💩. I’m fed up with these things and will be switching to Sonos shortly.
 
If only there was a battery powered option. I mean JBL’s portable Bluetooth speakers work great. With the power manage of a device with an Apple Watch CPU and the big case of the HomePod, why isn’t this product optionally battery powered? Seems like a win to me.
 
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The Amazon Show series has an actual useable screen. Do I use the screen, cannot remember the last time. My HomePod on a 5ft dresser. What are the odds I would use this feature. I use the voice assistant sometimes. Mostly the App. Much rather have better software features than a screen.
 
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They need to make is Left-Right compatible to the 1st Gen HomePods AND the 2nd Gen... that way those of us with stereo pair do not have to replace both of them to preserve the stereo effect.

And then they can make the Minis available to use as rear ATMOS sound speakers.
The sound of the Mini is so bad I would never use as part of the a surround sound system.
 
Our first generation of these Home Pods still work very well. Siri has been a challenge for my soft spoken British wife.

The second generation was a stripped down model (fewer speakers and microphones) still at a high price and the small ball shaped ones are a joke to me. We put an electronic A/C power switch feeding power to the Home Pods so Siri is NOT listening to every conversation. We disconnect A/C power to the televisions and their amplifiers for privacy. These new televisions are "listening" all the time power is on.

And yes we do power off the iPhones and Apple watches when we have sensitive details to discuss.
 
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Apple, do the right thing and open this device up with AUX and Bluetooth. It won’t cost you anything and dramatically open up the market. Currently, it’s only good for people deep in the Apple ecosystem that have an iOS device and Apple Music account.
 
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I have 14 homepod minis in my home. Here's what I want:

1) Fix "There is a problem with Apple Music"
2) Improve voice commands
3) Let me use them in surround sound mode
4) Turn them into mesh network nodes
5) I have plenty of screens in my home, I have no need for a screen on my homepods; these are used with voice commands.
 
If they replace Apple TV as it is with a combined speaker streamer... I think I might go elsewhere..

I like Apple TV as it is... just improve the software and get some decent games on the ecosystem. And make a cut down AVP for movies as an accessory for it etc

Id buy those in a flash.
 
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