I don't have perfect vision but I certainly can read twitter or facebook apps on my iPhone 4S quite easily, and I usually have to read it from further than usual since the phone is hooked to my earphone and the cable is short, so I can't lift the phone much after taking it out of my pocket, so I read it while holding it near my front pocket. But that's facebook and twitter. I can't say the same for websites with no mobile version. Now those are a tough read, even if I hold the phone in front of my eyes. A lot of zooming in and out is necessary then, but a bigger phone wouldn't really help on that either. In any case I'd have to zoom in.
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I don't have perfect vision but I certainly can read twitter or facebook apps on my iPhone 4S quite easily, and I usually have to read it from further than usual since the phone is hooked to my earphone and the cable is short, so I can't lift the phone much after taking it out of my pocket, so I read it while holding it near my front pocket. But that's facebook and twitter. I can't say the same for websites with no mobile version. Now those are a tough read, even if I hold the phone in front of my eyes. A lot of zooming in and out is necessary then, but a bigger phone wouldn't really help on that either. In any case I'd have to zoom in.
Hate to tell you this, but Apple NEVER had a majority share of the smartphone market. In fact, until 2012, they were #3.
2007-2012 looked like this:
Yes, I know this is the world-wide market. In the US, Symbian wasn't a player. Still, when iOS had a larger marketshare then android, RIM was bigger then them. So Apple (domestic or worldwide) has never been on top:
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It is called the AppleScruff Syndrome
Perhaps it would be better to state that the general forum consensus flip flopped and not attribute it to specific individuals who changed their viewpoint.
More accurately some think marketshare is important, some don't, and some don't care.
In other words, different people have different opinions.
Stating anything else otherwise either way is generalizing and being disingenuous
Apple users are not as bad as you want them to be.
1. You are setting up a nice strawman here, declaring that every opinion in favor of Apple or against anyone else is based on bias. Two people apparently believed you and voted it up. No mention of the sycophantic admiration of everything Samsung by some people here. As far as "spawn of Satan" is concerned, that is slightly exaggerated, but look at the facts: Multiple convictions for price fixing in 2012 alone, CEO convicted of tax evasion (and received a pardon by the government), cricitising Samsung in Korea documented as destroying careers, the company refusing to take any responsibility for hundreds with health damage due to chemicals in Samsung factories. Marketing instead of innovation. (Strange how many people claimed Apple's success was just due to marketing, and nobody mentions that Samsung spends twice as much on marketing than Apple ever did).
Then you slip in "Samsung kicking Apple's butt". I thought you meant "Samsung stepping on Apple's toes" which most people would agree with. What I see so far is Samsung having copied the iPhone 3 and getting its butt kicked in court. But mentioning a US court decision that is against Samsung is probably biassed.
"Market share": There's "market share in PC sales". That's unimportant to Apple. There's "number of high end, high margin computers sold". That's important to Apple. Now getting _any_ significant share of the "PC sales market share" while only selling to the high end market is amazing. What gets attacked all the time is the notion that Apple's low market share is sigificant. It isn't. 45% of all PC profits, that is significant.
"Shipped doesn't mean sold" does indeed count for any newcomers in the market. However, it also counts when comparing numbers sold in the first say five days of a product with numbers shipped in the same time frame, which is one thing Samsung fans like to do.
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That's not what I've seen here. And since that opinion is indeed idiotic, I'm sure I would have noticed it and replied to it if I had ever seen it. Since I didn't, I suggest that you are trying to set up a strawman here. Feel free to quote any posts that actually expressed what you are claiming.
I never said Apple users were bad.
You're right, I apologize for assuming, just came across that way.
The irony of your 'quip' is that Appe haven't brought any true phone developments to the public since they took the beautiful iPhone 3 and bastardised all it's style to create the iPhone 4. Meanwhile, it's competitors have excelled!
Held the Galaxy S4 next to my girlfriends iPhone 5 today ... she felt as sick as a pig when she felt the sleek lines of the S4 compared to the 5 ... and that screen ... To die for! After having iPhones for the past 6 years myself, I recently changed my iphone 5 for the awesome Lumia 820 ... But that Sammy ... Must have!!!
Now what were Apple saying about market share?????
You are out of touch.
You have a minority perspective on the subject.
Your post-length to substance ratio is way off
I'm pretty sure apple is ok with making a billion dollars a week at the expense of marketshare....
Marketshare is a useless statistic, always has been always will be.
I don't care if Samsung copied Apple (like apple never copied anyone themselves!!) or any other negative statements about my phones better than yours ... Just go hold the new S4 next to an iPhone 5 as I did today and it'll become QUITE clear why so many people are abandoning Apple products. They may have been the market leader a few years ago, but others have not only now caught up, but they've significantly passed Apple in the desirability stakes! That GORGEOUS S4 screen, smooth rounded lines, high technology, NFC, SD Card slot, wireless charging ... I could go on but I fear I may just have to buy one tomorrow!
Did..... I just read a Samsung ad?
No, you just read about how many people would compare the Apple phone and the Samsung phone if you put blue painter's tape over the logos.
Some people, though, lose their objectivity if a tech toy has a half-eaten apple for a logo.
I'm convinced you have a real problem with other peoples opinions. What's wrong with some people liking apple and others liking samsung?
Some people lose their objectivity if they see a green robot on their tech toys too.
can't find the original post, but I can't forget you suggesting everyone to sell everything and use the money for buying AAPL shares back in September, around 700$ quote.
AAPL was severely undervalued at $700. Wall Street is crazy.
Voonyx, I don't have a problem with other's opinions.
I was responding to a post where someone said that another post was a "Samsung ad" because the other post preferred the Galaxy S4 to the Iphone.
That seems a pretty callous response to another's opinions, especially with the implied reference to astroturfing.
Or, were you replying to ChazUK and mistakenly responded to my post?
Nope I was responding to you. You said that people lose objectivity when it comes to apple. The same applies to android. Why do you ignore that?
Maybe you should ask that question at http://androidrumors.com ...
Oops, that's a 404.
And, what I said was that "Some people, though, lose their objectivity if a tech toy has a half-eaten apple for a logo." Please don't rewrite my words.
This graph is very interesting.
1. There are now only 4 real contenders, Android, iOS and a possibility of growth for WP and RIM.
2.There is very clear negative correlation between iOS growth and Android, (on Q3 2011 and Q3 2012) rather than say, iOS and RIM. It means that Android growth is killing all other OSes except iOS; and iOS growth in turn kills Android.
3. iOS growth is correlated with introduction of new iPhone models. The next spike in world wide iOS usage will come in Q3 2013; possibly it may be actually dual peaking, with introduction of new iPhone 6 and a budget iPhone 5S.
4. In that case, Apple worldwide share will probably exceed for first time 35% or even 40%; introduction of new model usually drives Apple share up by 5-10 percentage points; introduction of TWO new models will drive then by 10-20% or 15% assuming some sort of cannibalization of premium market model by budget one. However, both will have same profit margin, so actually it is not that important for Apple bottom line which model sells more - they both bring in highest profit margins in industry, but lower priced model will expand market share dramatically and therefore, not increase profit margin (rather keep it steady high) but will increase volume of pre-tax net revenue (profits).
5. Realistically speaking, BB share will continue to slide even sales expand, because the volume of smarphone sales will grow faster than BB sales. At some point, only three leading OSes will remain and BB will become a very small niche player, but profitable.
6. If one adds iPod touches, iPads to iOS smartphone share, iOS overall share will be very high indeed for all mobile devices. Future is bright for Apple, not so for MS and BB. As for Google, the market share means no revenue, strictly speaking, because all royalties paid to MS. Maybe it earns something from ads or app market, but sure it is not monetized at all. Therefore, at some stage, MS can even cancel its own OS and just live off Android royalties
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It's irrelevant exactly how you said it. The way you said it implies that only an Apple logo could cause a lack of objectivity and only Apple fanboys are like that. If you don't want to sound biased, then you should add that "same is true for any other brand". I'm not saying that one shouldn't sound biased, I don't have any issue with people being biased one way or another, since everyone on this forum is biased anyway, but don't try to come out as unbiased.
And I asked you why you didn't say the same for android users? The point I'm making is that both sides lose objectivity and often, you're proof of that since you're only acknowledging one side as being the ones who do that. But I can see that you have no intention of answering that question so let's leave it at that, aiden.