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How many iSights do I need? My MBP has one. And 49w sound systems? Won't be mixing anything on those, I can assure you. I highly doubt that a usb hub, cheap speakers and a web cam would come anywhere near the cash I saved doing it the way I did.

If you wanted to talk about color accuracy, brightness, viewing angle, and related specs, you'd have a better argument regarding value. But for my specific application, the pluses far, far outweighed the minuses. Easier on my neck and far easier on my wallet.

I only mentioned it because running multiple monitors off of a MBP has been a reality for years already, albeit not as easily and cleanly implemented as the TB/MDP configs will be from now on.

Don't buy it then.

People like buying ACD for nice cross integration with Apple Products, nice aesthetic integration with Apple Products, and piece of mind of buying a quality display (some people don't know how to find other displays/won't know how to buy adapters) without fuss. They just want plug and play. I for one, do not use ACD's in my studio. I could get 2 same quality display's for the same price. I just needed a nice big monitor; aesthetics wasn't an issue.
 
This Must Be Happening Soon - Apple Store is Broken

If you click on the BUY NOW button when looking at the displays on Apple's site, you get this error:

"OOOOPS! An error has occurred during your session. Please return to the Store Menu to continue shopping."

There is also an icon of a shipping box when you search the store for displays. It shoots the same error. Earlier today you could click into it still but all the images of the display were broken links. I am guessing we will hear this Monday.
 
If you click on the BUY NOW button when looking at the displays on Apple's site, you get this error:

"OOOOPS! An error has occurred during your session. Please return to the Store Menu to continue shopping."

There is also an icon of a shipping box when you search the store for displays. It shoots the same error. Earlier today you could click into it still but all the images of the display were broken links. I am guessing we will hear this Monday.

Yes, it is true! I also checked it out.

I just ordered a 27" Cinema Display yesterday. I think that I will cancel the order and place another order on a new Cinema Display.
 
They could have a crippled price and feature Snow Leopard machine. The other crippled C2D machines they have had are evidence. That said, there is a need for any polycarbonate portable Apple has the inclination to offer, so why not make it i5? Or A5?

Rocketman

Have to have the macbook. You could do some really neat stuff with that line. Just needs a little love.
 
Will the new Cinema Display will have FaceTime HD camera?

The new Cinema Display will definitely have a FaceTime HD camera!

I just talked on the phone with a saleslady in the Apple Online Store. After she checked with somebody else, she told me that it was a network error! LOL!
 
For those complaining about price of these, remember this is an IPS panel, 27". Go to Dell and they fetch for about the same price, so for once apple is actually on price with these. Plus they offer nice plug & play with apple products. Man, I got to get my company to buy one of these to go w/ my soon to be new MBA. Just gota sell my 2010 iMac i3.
 
I hope Apple uses a built-in GPU right into ACDs in the future. With Thunderbolt, that could be the solution for the Intel HD 3000 problem. It seems the perfect solution at least while people are connected to their ACDs. It would make Macs a heck of a lot more powerful like the new Sony Vaio Z with external GPU in the media dock.
 
Question is, why did Apple bother putting a TB port on a machine that can't really make use of it? If it's just to plug in external drives, Firewire 800 took care of that already.

For the answer to your question... see quote below

I hope Apple uses a built-in GPU right into ACDs in the future. With Thunderbolt, that could be the solution for the Intel HD 3000 problem. It seems the perfect solution at least while people are connected to their ACDs. It would make Macs a heck of a lot more powerful like the new Sony Vaio Z with external GPU in the media dock.

Scottsdale hit the nail on the head. The MBA is probably the single most important Apple computer to benefit from TB. TB is NOT just a fat pipe. TB allows your computer system to be partitioned in new creative ways.

I have no idea if Apple is using TB to repartition the system this year. Somehow... I doubt this will be a 2011 feature. However... TB is the foundation to make this happen in the future.

/Jim
 
As much as I love the Cinema Display it's very pricey, I don't see why Apple doesn't have a 21.5", I think that would be great for people who don't have so much to spend. These days you can get a Dell 21.5" IPS display for $209.99, would be very nice to see Apple jump in this market.. Not everyone is looking for a 27" display..
 
As much as I love the Cinema Display it's very pricey, I don't see why Apple doesn't have a 21.5", I think that would be great for people who don't have so much to spend. These days you can get a Dell 21.5" IPS display for $209.99, would be very nice to see Apple jump in this market.. Not everyone is looking for a 27" display..

What I really don't understand is that Apple is using 21.5" IPS displays in the iMacs that would make perfect ACDs. Why not hit both parts of the market? I would assume $499 for a 21.5" ACD with Thunderbolt and no GPU but in the 27" ACD a built in GPU and Thunderbolt for $999. Put 1x USB 3.0, 3x USB 2.0, 1x FireWire, Webcam, Speakers, and etc all with Thunderbolt cable connectivity. Those would seem like fair numbers, given Apple's desire to make its margins and a huge upgrade path and capabilities for the 27" ACD given my suggested GPU built into the larger ACD.

And those ports have to be how Apple deals with less connectivity and ports on Mac notebooks too. I would be happy with one USB 3.0 port on the MBA and a Thunderbolt. Then, use either ACDs or media bays to allow expansion of ports, BluRay/Optical, and etc. Quite honestly, I could do without the SD card slot, and pretty much everything except the Thunderbolt and one USB 3.0 port as when away from the desk I just don't need that connectivity. I also liked the way the port tray worked on the older MBAs. I don't like how the ports make the MBA look ugly. They could at least have a door that drops open like on Express Card slots on MBPs. Ports are ugly and now they're all over the MBA and not hidden anymore...
 
As much as I love the Cinema Display it's very pricey, I don't see why Apple doesn't have a 21.5", I think that would be great for people who don't have so much to spend. These days you can get a Dell 21.5" IPS display for $209.99, would be very nice to see Apple jump in this market.. Not everyone is looking for a 27" display..

Compared to what NEC 27" display offers for only $150 more (at B&H) it is ridiculously overpriced.

And: no matter option, which makes it a no-no for photographic work.
 
Ok so...

I have questions. First of all, why do apple state that a display has to be at the end of a thunderbolt chain? This would preclude daisy-chaining displays from working on any machine, regardless of graphics prowess. I know people are going to say that they meant with existing monitors because they didn't have any TB equipped monitors yet - but how many TB equipped devices did they have when making that statement? Zero. So you can't say one was true at the time but the other was not. This is not to say that this isn't possible, or even probable, just a bit tired of apple not providing facts, only flowery marketing dribble.

Edit: I should correct this, apple did state 'mini display port display', so my ramblings are ridiculously unfounded.

Edit 2: 'daisy chain up to 6 devices plus a display'. My point about this is not what it is capable of in any way shape or form, just Apple being so utterly vague in the name of consumer friendliness.

Secondly, for those who are looking at these and saying you only have to have one connector to the display now yay, what happened to the MagSafe connector? I thought this was a benefit, not having to plug in your power adapter when you 'dock' your MB/P/A? USB I can understand.

Thirdly, I don't understand why this new display shouldn't work with mini display port equipped macs? As I understand it TB does in line DP, USB, PCIe, FW etc but it is just a matter of a dongle being different for different devices and it is 2 way? Couldn't therefore the reverse be true? Albeit without USB etc to drive the built in hub?

Lastly, I still strongly believe the next iPad, or iPad Pro, will have TB, even if it is wrapped up in the 30 pin dock connector a la Sony Vaio Z's USB implementation. With Lion going full screen (which I hate btw) oriented, and touch oriented it makes the most sense. Having a TB iPad which then becomes a touch display (with 2k plus reolution) you can add on makes sense. There is other evidence too, with iOS 5 you can now use the device while syncing, so sync over USB wrapped in TB while feeding out display data using MDP and touch information over USB. They could even harness the processing capabilities of the iPad using grand central dispatch or whatever it's called, utilizing the PCIe component of TB. I also believe that apple haven't been able to come up with a satisfactory way of designing and iMac or MB to be suitable for touch, this has nothing to do with The tech, everything to do with ergonomics. One of the key reasons I bought an iPad is as a complimentary device to my Mac pro, as a controller for it, whether I am sitting in front of it or in another room. It is the best input device yet! Well maybe it's just a pipe dream...
 
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Like otheres have noted, trying to buy the display at the Apple store currently produces a "Oops! Page not found" error that I think is indicative of a refresh: http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/mac_accessories/displays?mco=MTM3Njk4ODU



This is fantastic, imagine the clean integration Thunderbolt will allow such as just ONE cable for all I/O and display graphics data, plus daisy chaining.


IT's like the modern version of Apple's ADC CABLE! :)
 
Makes sense but the picture shows a MacBook Pro connected to the Cinema Display with two connections to the MacBook Pro, just like the current model.

The ACD comes with three cables, USB, MiniDP, and a MagSafe. The new pics show a MagSafe and a TB cable, so all data (video and USB) is being transferred over the TB cable.
 
Woah

About the whole 'end of the line' theory. Apple has said that the display (being mini display port) needs to be at the end. Apple has never made comment or suggestion that a thunderbolt display would need to be at the end of the line.

A thunderbolt device can daisy chain as any other device. :rolleyes:
 
Like otheres have noted, trying to buy the display at the Apple store currently produces a "Oops! Page not found" error that I think is indicative of a refresh: http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/mac_accessories/displays?mco=MTM3Njk4ODU



This is fantastic, imagine the clean integration Thunderbolt will allow such as just ONE cable for all I/O and display graphics data, plus daisy chaining.


IT's like the modern version of Apple's ADC CABLE! :)


I think it says that Apple had intentions to keep it secret and surprise everyone. Like the mystry of Lions release.
 
Will the upcoming ACD support those mid 2010 15" MBPs with only Mini Displayport instead of TB?
 
I'm sure it'll bog down regardless of what I'm doing especially
if I'm running a combo of two Adobe CS programs, which is nearly every time i'm on my computer.

Telling the 6750M to drive two monitors where one is 2560x1440 is already asking for trouble

Meanwhile my 320m in my MacBook Air does one 2560x1440 flawlessly. Surely the MacBook Pro has 2x the GPU power?
 
I hope Apple uses a built-in GPU right into ACDs in the future. With Thunderbolt, that could be the solution for the Intel HD 3000 problem. It seems the perfect solution at least while people are connected to their ACDs. It would make Macs a heck of a lot more powerful like the new Sony Vaio Z with external GPU in the media dock.

More like give the MacBook Air super graphics.
 
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