Apple's Website Hints at Apple Pay Coming to Germany

[Bug-Creator]

Germany is in economic terms the elephant in the room (europe), if Apple can't introduce ApplePay here they may just as well make it US only.

I don't own a credit card (never seen the point) and I rarely pay directly with the EC card, so ApplePay has to be universial, cheap (as in free) and easy to use for me to even consider it.

Also still quite a long way till I turn 60.

 

[BSben]

I hope that it will be activated tonight with 10.1 otherwise this thread will be done.

A software update is not required to activate Apple Pay I think. And I am sure there will be a wait after the announcement.

 

[tmiw]

A software update is not required to activate Apple Pay I think. And I am sure there will be a wait after the announcement.

Depends. If Apple just wants to support Visa or MC, definitely not. But if they want to support the German debit network they might need to.

 

[AiWaddup]

Depends. If Apple just wants to support Visa or MC, definitely not. But if they want to support the German debit network they might need to.

I doubt it's even possible to connect a girocard (aka EC Karte) to Apple Pay. There is no way to pay online with a girocard, it doesn't even have a real card number (just a placeholder one that's only useful to tell the operator which card was stolen).

You can only pay using the chip with PIN or the magstripe for ELV with signature (or maybe it's chip+signature for ELV nowadays but that doesn't matter).

It's the same deal with Maestro or V-Pay. The majority of German bank cards are not full Maestro cards like the ones you can get in the UK that have a CVC and an actual card number. Maestro and V-Pay co-branding was only intended to be used for vacations in continental Europe, for use in terminals and ATMs.


It's an overall very precarious starting position for Apple Pay in Germany. As far as I know at least, including girocard/Maestro/V-Pay is not possible. MasterCard, Visa and Amex is possible, but those are not particularly widespread.
Lots of modern direct banks usually come with a free Visa or Mastercard debit or credit card, but let's not kid ourselves, LOTS of folks are still with credit unions or savings banks, or Deutsche Bank, commerzbank, spardabank, HypoVereinsbank, etc. none of which actually offer free credit cards.
They might offer Apple Pay, but they're not suddenly going to offer free credit cards. There's not nearly enough pressure for them to do so. The target group is small.

Then again, as someone stated before, Apple is losing momentum. If they're going to wait forever for credit card adoption rates to rise and release Apple Pay in 5 or 10 years, it's just going to seem pathetic (whatever the reason for the holdup was).
At this point, a lot of terminals are already prepared for contactless payments and folks without a credit card or a MC/Visa debit card will probably be out of luck.

It's going to be interesting whether in the long run the German Banks with their girocard will win, or if Mastercard and Visa take over. One thing is for sure though: To avoid unpleasant surprises when shopping in Germany, you better still take cash with you

 

[mdellepi]

Having an account at N26, that has quite a strong relationship with Apple (for instance, Siri and iMessage support at iOS 10 release), I really hope the jump on the Apple Pay wagon as soon as it is possible!

 

[SBlue1]

Dont forget the lack of promoting it. Like i had no idea Rewe supports contactless credit card payments until i randomly read it in a fine print a few days ago" the stuff doesnt even know about it

Same here. I use my NFC Visa all the time to pay in as many stores and machines as possible. Way quicker than cash or the EC-Card which has to wait for the PIN to go thru. One day I saw the NFC Logo pop up when I wanted to pay with my EC-Card. I was like "oh you support NFC now?" and the cashier lady was looking at me asking what I was talking about. I took my Visa and waved it and was done. She was like what was that?

But yeah more and more places use NFC. I still seem to be in the minority. I like when people in the line behind me look funny when I pay 3 Euros with my VISA but then they are pleasantly surprised that NFC is even faster than cash.

Cant wait to see the faces of the people when I pay with my phone.

 

[PR1985]

Apple Pay in Germany? No! Will they bring it to us this year? I hope so.

 

[MLVC]

They should just bring it to several European countries at once, Germany, Holland, Belgium, Italy, Denmark, Sweden etc. If they want it to be a success, those countries need to be added.

 

[PR1985]

They should just bring it to several European countries at once, Germany, Holland, Belgium, Italy, Denmark, Sweden etc. If they want it to be a success, those countries need to be added.

I checked the Italian Support-pages and they were updated on the same days as those for Germany. So, maybe they are planning, what you just wrote/said. It sounds logical to me.

 

[AiWaddup]

I guess some designer in America just overestimated the size of Switzerland when coloring the map lol

I doubt Apple Pay will come to Germany any time soon. There are no hints other than this support article which might as well be aimed at the German speaking part of Switzerland

 

[PR1985]

I guess some designer in America just overestimated the size of Switzerland when coloring the map lol

I doubt Apple Pay will come to Germany any time soon. There are no hints other than this support article which might as well be aimed at the German speaking part of Switzerland

No because for Switzerland there are already localized pages. Those are for Germany.
[doublepost=1477744789][/doublepost]https://support.apple.com/de-de/HT205630 Updated 10/28/16

 

[VSG]

There is something coming. I can feel it.
I went to iCloud.com today and right before you sign on, there is a shortcut to ApplePay at the bottom that I could swear wasn't there before.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed!

 

[PR1985]

There is something coming. I can feel it.
I went to iCloud.com today and right before you sign on, there is a shortcut to ApplePay at the bottom that I could swear wasn't there before.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed!

I think, that is not new but I can not swear that.

Is this shortcut visible in other countries, which do not have Apple Pay yet??

It is old. http://www.ifun.de/icloud-com-schne...-aktivierter-zweistufiger-bestaetigung-91575/ This article has a screenshot where it can be seen.

 

[PR1985]

https://support.apple.com/de-de/HT205630
Updated: 10/28

https://support.apple.com/de-de/HT201239
https://support.apple.com/de-de/HT204506
https://support.apple.com/de-de/HT205583
Updated: 10/31

 

[Neg4433]

Update: 14/11

The Apple Pay landing page is listed again in the support search page but the link isn't active yet.

https://www.apple.com/de/apple-pay/

Edit: More Details, the apple pay landing page was updated on 12/11

For those in Netherlands and Italy the landing pages were also updated on 12th November. So i guess Apple is planning a massive Apple Pay rollout for those countries.

 

[PR1985]

It would be interesting to know, when those landing pages were detected for the first time in GB etc.

 

[Neg4433]

I just found the full text from which the preview is being generated.

Ihr Portemonnaie. Ohne ein Portemonnaie. Mit Wallet müssen Sie nicht mehr lange nach Ihrem Portemonnaie oder der richtigen Karte suchen. Auch die Karte durch das Lesegerät zu ziehen und warten zu müssen gehört der Vergangenheit an. Jetzt genügt ein einmaliges Tippen, und schon haben Sie bezahlt. Apple Pay wird die Art und Weise, auf die Sie bezahlen, revolutionieren – mit einer bahnbrechenden kontaktlosen Zahlungstechnologie und einzigartigen Sicherheitsfunktionen, die direkt in die Geräte integriert sind, die Sie bereits täglich nutzen. So können Sie mit Ihrem iPhone 6 auf einfache, sichere und vertrauliche Weise bezahlen.

Edit: More updated pages i found
iCloud: Debit- und Kreditkarten von einem Gerät entfernen Published on 8th November

 

[PR1985]

I just found the full text from which the preview is being generated.



Edit: More updated pages i found
iCloud: Debit- und Kreditkarten von einem Gerät entfernen Published on 8th November

I just found the full text from which the preview is being generated.



Edit: More updated pages i found
iCloud: Debit- und Kreditkarten von einem Gerät entfernen Published on 8th November

Where did you find this text.

 

[Neg4433]

Where did you find this text.

Go to Apple.com/de/ > click on Support > then click the search icon on top and write Apple Pay. In the result list in which the date is being written on the left of the title > right click on the text and inspect it with the browser. You will find a span with the complete text which is written completely only if you search in the support page. If you use the universal search on the main page of Apple.com/de/, the text is not complete inside the Span.

 

[PR1985]

Go to Apple.com/de/ > click on Support > then click the search icon on top and write Apple Pay. In the result list in which the date is being written on the left of the title > right click on the text and inspect it with the browser. You will find a span with the complete text which is written completely only if you search in the support page. If you use the universal search on the main page of Apple.com/de/, the text is not complete inside the Span.

I can´t inspect it or at least I don´t know how. I´m using Edge. Thanks for the information. You seem to be the first one who posted the complete text. Did you check if there are new videos as well?

 

[Neg4433]

I can´t inspect it or at least I don´t know how. I´m using Edge. Thanks for the information. You seem to be the first one who posted the complete text. Did you check if there are new videos as well?

Try it with Chrome or Firefox. Right Click - Untersuchen. Nope it's just plain text that is generated into the search results.

 

[Neg4433]

New Update: It looks like Apple Pay draws near. I found two more updated support pages which are also inactive (probably waiting till release?) this time it is the Support page for Apple Pay with information and instructions on how to setup Apple Pay and the page which includes information about the places where Apple Pay is supported.

http://www.apple.com/de/support/apple-pay/ Updated: 16th November 2016
http://www.apple.com/de/apple-pay/where-to-use-apple-pay/ Updated: 16th November 2016

The texts i found:

Hier erfahren Sie, wie Sie Apple Pay einrichten und verwenden, wo Sie per Apple Pay zahlen können, welche Voraussetzungen für die Nutzung von Apple Pay gelten und welche Geschäfte und Kreditkarteninstitute Apple Pay unterstützen.

Dank Apple Pay können Sie mit Ihrem iPhone 6, iPhone 6s oder Ihrer Apple Watch auf einfache, sichere und vertrauliche Weise in Geschäften und Apps bezahlen. Apple Pay wird unter anderem von Supermärkten, Boutiquen, Restaurants und Hotels unterstützt. Darüber hinaus kann mit Apple Pay sogar in einigen der beliebtesten Apps aus dem App Store bezahlt werden.

Screenshots:

 

[PR1985]

There is an error. iPhone 7 and 7Plus aren´t mentioned in the 2. text.

If you search, their are two other pages. In the search in German but when you click on them you see the English pages. In the search 16.11.2016.

I´m referring myself too:

https://developer.apple.com/apple-pay/
https://discussions.apple.com/community/apple_pay

 

[Neg4433]

There is an error. iPhone 7 and 7Plus aren´t mentioned in the 2. text.

I know but if you search in the US website, it also gives you the same outdated text.

 

[PR1985]

Date is again 12.11.16. The new entries are gone.