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Hmm this is interesting. I have never thought about taking my Apple TV when I travel. If I'm on vacation do I really want to sit and watch TV? Not really, unless it is raining outside. It might be nice to stream some music from the hotel/condo TV but then I do travel with a speaker I can dock my iPhone to play music.

I guess if you have kids and have purchased a lot of movies/content from iTunes then it would make sense to bring the Apple TV to the hotel/condo to play the movies for the kids.

I only travel for business (no time for vacations), so having my AppleTV with me in my hotel room is fantastic! Usually, I can just hook it into whatever (crappy) flatscreen the hotel offers, and watch any of my content I like.

To be honest, though, I usually just watch on my iPad and my AppleTV stays in my laptop case :p
 
OS X 10.10? Isn't that getting a bit ridiculous? "OS X" has always been confusing, since it came out and even through today. They should just call it xOS, no confusion and fits right in with iOS.
 
Well - I was expecting 10.9 to drop C2D support, but I'm really expecting 10.10 to drop support.

I hope not though!

Ohh, sorry. I thought you meant they were still selling C2D machines and you wanted them gone. My bad. :eek:
 
Seriously?

The new look will have similar toggle designs to iOS 7, sharper window corners, more defined icons across the system, and more white space than the current version. However, OS X characteristics like the Finder, multi-window multitasking, and Mission Control will not disappear in favor of a more iOS-like experience.

Even stating this, about a fully certified UNIX 03 system has to be one of the most child rearing and ignorant statements I've read on this site.

iOS is a mass consumption platform.

OS X is a mass production and consumption platform.

Even wasting space reassuring people that a file system or multi-tasking aren't going away is some of the most condescending and unnecessary drivel I've read.

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The Mac is a great platform, but what it needs more than a cosmetic overhaul is an application frameworks overhaul.

AppKit has a ridiculous amount of legacy cruft in it. Just take a look at the documentation for NSWindow - it includes all kind of junk that isn't relevant any more; backing-store types, minimum colour depths (in case you have a B/W screen? :p), and several screens full of other options.

Meanwhile, lots of those properties have documentation which looks like this:



Meanwhile, it's hard to observe very simple things like the window moving on-screen or getting resized. Lots of observable changes use key-value observing or notifications, but you can only get that information via a delegate.

That's just one example. AppKit is full of this kind of thing.

You can really tell that 20 years passed between Apple creating AppKit and UIKit; the latter, on iOS, is a modern API which makes it easy to create great applications - animations are easy, things like custom layouts are easy, and the API is all very consistent.

That is the kind of change that is needed to rejuvenate the Mac as an application platform. A fresh coat of paint is all well and good, but when developers can't easily make use of it to express themselves it's meaningless as a platform.

AppKit and Foundation Kit are grounded in Openstep Initiative.

AppKit was first developed in 1986 and has been continuously evolving since.

UIKit is framework that relies 100% on AppKit.

How does one call UIKit a Modern API when AppKit 2014 is just as modern.

If you understood the power of delegates you would realize the reason for this relationship you're complaining is antiquated.

B/W Screens are used in Animation, Computer Graphics, Film Industry for comparing the contrast. Having that coding built-in isn't because it's a legacy situation, but something that has been addressed in broadcasting since we started using computer software tools to work within many specific industries.

References to older methods and classes you use to call or not call is intelligent documentation. It gives a path for people porting older applications forward.
 
Unfortunately, I think filesystem underpinnings don't have any "ooh/ahhh" potentials except for the geeks that can appreciate the differences of ZFS vs. HFS. It's like the Snow Leopard release where there was all this "behind the scenes" improvement without that many new tangible enhancements people could see/touch/use. It was a great step forward for OS X but it got some gripes about the lack of tangibles.

The filesystem is way down underneath almost everything. Most people couldn't tell you anything about the difference between ZFS vs. HFS except the letter. Some might assume Z is better because it's further along in the alphabet. It's probably hard to spin such a change in a big rollout. Instead, we get iRadio, Maps, Siri, FaceTime, iMessage, etc some of which then makes it to OS X.

I'm still with you one wanting something like a ZFS but because I'm one of those that grasp why beyond a letter change. The average Joe probably has no concept about that level of things.

What exactly would a filesystem change bring? I've always wondered this.

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Apple is destroying the fantastic Mac OS X interface. Apple should bring back acroll arrowheads and true color labels, for instance.

Why would you want to ugly pre-Lion scrollbar back? Looks so much better to have it disappear when you're not scrolling.

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Looks like iOS8 more focus built into OS X...

I wish Apple never did the whole "Bringing iOS features back to the Mac"

The Mac is a desktop, iOS rus on mobile..... the two shouldn't come together, or they if do, they don't bring everything across..

It seems Apple is heading this way... Lets just hope the more iOS features they add, they also give the same ability to disable it on a Desktop OS..

You don't see MS doing this do you... And they won't, because they realize that the two are separate..

Apple doesn't..

either way, just like any new OS X i'm always excited though. Just as long it doesn't take over my life, ts fine.

This post is satire, right?
 
Don't really know what they can do to improve Mac OSX... Making it look like iOs? Please this is desktop, not mobile!!!
 
Hmmm.... well considering I HATE how they made iOS7 look... should I worry about a re-designed OSX? I hope not, I love OSX.

PPPLLLLEEEEAAAASSSSEEEEEE Apple, don't let Ive's anywhere near OSX? Let the Apple OS experts deal with it, not a designer.
 
Hmmm.... well considering I HATE how they made iOS7 look... should I worry about a re-designed OSX? I hope not, I love OSX.

PPPLLLLEEEEAAAASSSSEEEEEE Apple, don't let Ive's anywhere near OSX? Let the Apple OS experts deal with it, not a designer.

1. Ive and his team have been working on it for months, so Apple has let him near.

2. It's the same software team, they're just under Ive now. Ive doesn't program.
 
Well - I was expecting 10.9 to drop C2D support, but I'm really expecting 10.10 to drop support.
Why would they? What's the difference between C2D and Core i, besides the new naming scheme. As long as C2D processors are up to the job – which they are – why drop them? How would the OS benefit from not having to support these chips? :confused:
 
Why would they? What's the difference between C2D and Core i, besides the new naming scheme. As long as C2D processors are up to the job – which they are – why drop them? How would the OS benefit from not having to support these chips? :confused:

Well, knowing Apple, they tend to drop support for processors even if they technically still work with the OS. (Which is why people are often pretty easily able to install OS's on unsupported machines.) it's just Apple nature to drop support for a machine after a few years... Like Mavericks (if I remember right) dropped support for 32bit machines, and Core Duo machines. (And yet people have still been able to install Mavericks on those machines)
 
Even stating this, about a fully certified UNIX 03 system has to be one of the most child rearing and ignorant statements I've read on this site.

iOS is a mass consumption platform.

OS X is a mass production and consumption platform.

Even wasting space reassuring people that a file system or multi-tasking aren't going away is some of the most condescending and unnecessary drivel I've read.

Consider the source...and he's only 20 years old.
 
Why would they? What's the difference between C2D and Core i, besides the new naming scheme. As long as C2D processors are up to the job – which they are – why drop them? How would the OS benefit from not having to support these chips? :confused:

I agree. Though Core 2 Duo's are hardly anywhere near as powerful as the newer generation CPUs, Apple already went out of its way to make Mavericks compatible with low-power machines with features such as Timer Coalescing, AppNap, and Compressed Memory. I seriously doubt they'll do a 180 on this just one version after.
 
1. Ive and his team have been working on it for months, so Apple has let him near.

2. It's the same software team, they're just under Ive now. Ive doesn't program.

I'm sure some people think they're going to wake up tomorrow and hear that he's been 'demoted' back to hardware only but I don't see that happening. On what grounds? Kind of hard to demote someone when Apple is selling more phones than it ever has. Even if it's not because of iOS 7 it's certainly not impacting sales.
 
What exactly would a filesystem change bring? I've always wondered this.


If you're a technical mind read about ZFS here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS and ask yourself if can you do all that with a stock OS X machine (using HFS now).

If not, HFS is just a very old file system vs. a much more modern ZFS. ZFS would bring a lot of benefits not available in HFS. Here's a pretty good comparison from 2011: http://arstechnica.com/apple/2011/03/how-zfs-is-slowly-making-its-way-to-mac-os-x/

And here's a pretty good overview right on MacRumors: https://www.macrumors.com/2012/01/3...ourtesy-of-apples-former-chief-zfs-architect/ Of course, if you slide into the comments, it's mostly the usual bashing since it's not an Apple-created product and, as such, it couldn't be a "free" option within OS X (but was offered as a paid product).
 
It's just Apple nature to drop support for a machine after a few years...
But they still need a reason, yes? To kiss goodbye 32-bit single-core support could be beneficiary code-wise. But C2Ds are dual-core 64-bit processors not different from any current i5. So what is the technology that breaks compatibility?
 
I like the flat design of iOS7. I wouldn't mind this in 10.10. Apple already said they're not going to merge OS X and iOS, so I'm not worried about them dumbing it down.

Dear Apple,

Buy Flux and implement it into both OS X and iOS. Your customers' eyes will be very appreciative.

what is this flux??
 
So... will 10.10 return useful functions removed for no explicable reason such as 'open folder in new window' and coloured folder/file labels (rather than those totally pointless coloured dots...) or will we just see more useful stuff removed as they rush to make the desktop OS function more & more like the iOS?
 
Oh dear! Well I hope they are strong enough to tell him when they don't think something is a good idea? Usability over looks.

This.

After Tim Cook fired Forstall, he kept blabbing on about "collaboration" but if that's the case, why isn't anyone telling Ive that all white apps, cartoon icons, illegible text and broken apps and UI elements are ruining iOS?

Ive doesn't seem to be anymore of a team player than Forstall, the only difference was that Forstall was overly demonized got thrown under the bus for issues with ONE app in an otherwise solid iOS update while the other one takes absolutely no heat for an extremely questionable redesign of the ENTIRE OS and left MULTIPLE apps broken after trying to fix them when they obviously didn't need to.

I know Steve wanted Jony to have a lot of power within Apple but I highly doubt that included software and there's no way that Steve would've fired Forstall, he was always under Jobs' protection but obviously that went away with Cook.
 
So... will 10.10 return useful functions removed for no explicable reason such as 'open folder in new window' and coloured folder/file labels (rather than those totally pointless coloured dots...) or will we just see more useful stuff removed as they rush to make the desktop OS function more & more like the iOS?

Let's hope so. I hate the dots. If there is a purpose for the dots it could be made an option, dots or colored labels.

I would like to have Save As back in the normal way. I use Office 2011 so I don't have to worry about it much but it would still be nice to have Save As when making simple text files.
 
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