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I agree. Though Core 2 Duo's are hardly anywhere near as powerful as the newer generation CPUs, Apple already went out of its way to make Mavericks compatible with low-power machines with features such as Timer Coalescing, AppNap, and Compressed Memory. I seriously doubt they'll do a 180 on this just one version after.
AppNap doesn't work with third-party SSDs due to unpredictable heat development, because it is meant to start the computer without fans. Timer Coalescing and Compressed Memory are not only good for low-power machines, so it wouldn't mean a 180 to drop them. But Mavericks has shown how much life still is inside C2D Macs. They aren't low-power just lower-power. I don't think they should be retired anytime soon.
 
If only Apple had the money to be able to afford to staff up both teams sufficiently so that this kind of thing didn't have to happen over and over.

Are the reports of shifting to meet deadlines a misinterpretation?

From previous discussions it seems Apple have odd/even release teams for each OS already so each team can concentrate on a longer term goal.

So what if they have up staffed (or continue to up staff) to created a specially UI team of designers and engineers who will coordinate between the four main OS teams and alternate there focus between OS's in the deadline year.

So this year they are OS X focused, next year iOS again.
 
Seems to me what Apple's really doing is shifting some workers over to OS X to get the OS X demo ready for WWDC, whereas by release day for both new operating systems the workers will go where the workers need to go to get both finished for release. So, shift some workers to OS X now, then shift a bunch more back to iOS if needed after WWDC.
 
But they still need a reason, yes? To kiss goodbye 32-bit single-core support could be beneficiary code-wise. But C2Ds are dual-core 64-bit processors not different from any current i5. So what is the technology that breaks compatibility?

I do see what your saying. My only guess would be the graphics card, but that's not really a hindrance either.
 
Let's hope so. I hate the dots. If there is a purpose for the dots it could be made an option, dots or colored labels.

I would like to have Save As back in the normal way. I use Office 2011 so I don't have to worry about it much but it would still be nice to have Save As when making simple text files.

There is save as in Pages, at least. I haven't checked textedit, though.
 
Finally!!!

OS X hasn't really been a "huge" focus for Apple since iOS came out in '07. Leopard was probably focused on the most, so now I have something to look forward to!!!! Plus, I have a MacBook Pro 2011, warranty expiring in June. Should I buy an new one this Summer or wait a little while longer???
 
Finally, OS X gets some attention! Though I like the design of iOS 7 on my phone, I don't know that I would like it on my computer. I wouldn't mind a flatter design, but not something too flat
 
Let's hope so. I hate the dots. If there is a purpose for the dots it could be made an option, dots or colored labels.

I would like to have Save As back in the normal way. I use Office 2011 so I don't have to worry about it much but it would still be nice to have Save As when making simple text files.

+1 to all points scottsjack.
I get progress but going backwards & removing useful features just for the sake of change is not progress.
Why can't labels just be toggled on/off? I wear glasses to use my computer & find teh dots near invisible whereas in the past labels were an essential part of my workflow.

And yes... the change from 'save as' to 'export...' was one of the stupidist, most pointless, potentially confusing changes made.
No logical or practical reason what so ever & totally user-unfriendly.

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Nope. Those dots are tags and superior to mere labels. They won't go away and you will learn to use them.

OS X 10.9 Mavericks: The Ars Technica Review

Well that article just totally confirms me thoughts - coloured dots are pointless, hard to see & confusing. How many users would use, understand or even find all those options?
Why not just leave in tags as an option under 'Accessibility' for those of us with less than 20/20 eyesight?
Change for changes sake.
 
why solidworks?

that's a windows only program.. apple buying solidworks would be screwy for everybody

Because it is a hugely dominant piece of software in the engineering market that I doubt will ever be replaced given how embedded it is. Why would it be screwy if Apple buys it (the company that makes it, Dassault Systèmes SolidWorks Corp.) and then ports it OS X? obviously when I talked about buying something out it implies that if it isn't on OS X already that Apple would port it.
 
finally some mac lovin! Even though Win8 is meant to be a flop, I still enjoy the flat and minimal UI they have, probably more so than mavericks I dare say. Super excited to see this new design.
 
Because it is a hugely dominant piece of software in the engineering market that I doubt will ever be replaced given how embedded it is. Why would it be screwy if Apple buys it (the company that makes it, Dassault Systèmes SolidWorks Corp.) and then ports it OS X? obviously when I talked about buying something out it implies that if it isn't on OS X already that Apple would port it.

typed up some stuff but deleted.. this is sort of silly to argue about.
if you think that's a good or viable move then so be it..
 
You mean to tell me a company that made 30 billion dollars in profit last year can't find somewhere to put people?

So they should diversity in a 30 year old business that makes little money for them?

Did you see the distribution of profit as reported on macrumours a week or two ago? It seems mac net sales accounts for 12% of all profit, which is ahead of iTunes at 10%, and a bit behind iPad net sales at 17%. I wouldnt say it makes little money for them. Its absolutley something they wouldnt want to neglect.
 
I like that they're giving OS X some attention, but I hope the iOS 7 design influences are minimal. I like it on my phone and iPad, but I don't think it'd look good on my macs, especially my 09! Mavericks already looks weird on a non-retina display. That said, I like it on my rMBP!
 
The Good & Bad

Good

In OS X we're able to freely change icons / resource files. So if Apple stupidly retardizes all the icons, it's simple to use the custom icons I presently use. Unlike iOS that still doesn't have any way for us to use custom icons of our choosing. I emailed Apple a great idea at the official feedback site, about using iTunes for custom icons, similar to organizing Apps in your iOS device through iTunes, but Apple hasn't listened.

Included image, my Dock: Finder, Safari, iTunes, AirMail, Text Edit, Pixelmator, Trash.

Bad

If Apple goes with excessive whiteness, like the iOS 7 music player, I am going to spaz right out. Jony, if you read Mac Rumors: Please don't!
 

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How about just make the "app" that is the :apple:TV software run on the other iDevices (and maybe Macs too)?

You can already watch your iTunes content, Netflix, Youtube and whatnot with pretty much any tablet or computer, and pretty much all of those can be hooked up to a TV if needed. Maybe I'm missing something obvious here, but I really can't see any use case for schlepping along an ATV on your travels?
 
Well that article just totally confirms me thoughts - coloured dots are pointless, hard to see & confusing. How many users would use, understand or even find all those options? Why not just leave in tags as an option under 'Accessibility' for those of us with less than 20/20 eyesight? Change for changes sake.
So you totally missed the point, that there were only seven labels and you could only assign one label per file; where as with tags, you can create as much tags as you want and assign multiple tags to one file. As an organization method tags are superior to labels. They are integrated into Open/Save dialogs and have automatic smart folders in Finder. But you only want to talk about appearance. For my less than perfect eyesight I have correction glasses.
 
Well that article just totally confirms me thoughts - coloured dots are pointless, hard to see & confusing. How many users would use, understand or even find all those options?
Why not just leave in tags as an option under 'Accessibility' for those of us with less than 20/20 eyesight?
Change for changes sake.

Yeah I read that too, expecting some sort of revelation at last...but it sounds like Tags are just another half-baked idea thus far, and a lot of us miss the proper Labels system as it was. My work uses Labels for our backup system (Yellow files/folders are backed up daily, Grey will not backup, etc). Admittedly, none of our workstations have moved to Mavericks yet, so I don't know if Tags will show up in our backup software the same way. Hopefully.

I also miss the Tag/Label colour going across the whole file name in Finder in List View like it used to, instead of these Dots you can barely see (in List View, which is all I use). All this just so you can tag a file with multiple colours? I don't need that.

Also coloured icons in the Finder sidebar should return...having everything grey is just sad. Why is a network server the same colour as a local hard drive? It's just strange, especially since our screens can display colour these days. :cool:

Maybe Mavericks should simply require a 27" iMac. Tim Cook would like that. :rolleyes:
 
I think Apple just has too many items on their plate. At any one time, you know there are people working on iOS, OSX, iCloud services, maps, iWork's, updating their hardware, on top of working in new product releases.

I imagine just maintaining the normal stuff already keeps everyone busy, what more when someone wants to "hit the reset button" with a complete redesign of an OS which already works very well.
 
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