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Once again, big fail on Apple's part if they were trying to make people buy a new model since those updates applied to older models. :rolleyes:

Sorry, but you're wrong. You'll never be able to have a valid argument to the contrary. The entire premise is bad business.

It's not about making people buy new models. It's about publicity and excitement. If Apple can't think of anything new to add in their updates and hardware, they can just add a feature that's been on other phones for a lot longer.
 
It's not about making people buy new models. It's about publicity and excitement. If Apple can't think of anything new to add in their updates and hardware, they can just add a feature that's been on other phones for a lot longer.

Yet another failure. A) why sacrifice sales of this model for the next model by holding on to an exciting feature and B) do you really think its a problem that Apple can't "think" of something exciting?

I'm done with this argument, you clearly don't get it. You're stuck in the typical internet groupthink of everything being a conspiracy and every company is looking to screw you.
 
I'm done with this argument, you clearly don't get it. You're stuck in the typical internet groupthink of everything being a conspiracy and every company is looking to screw you.

Yet you haven't mentioned any reason why they waited so long to introduce features that have been on other devices for a long time...
 
It so would not surprise me that all of the pictures that have been floating around the internet are all FALSE!!! The did this with the 4S and look what happened, nothing like what was found on the internet nor the cases that were pending shipment...........Wednesday is almost HERE!!! :)
 
It so would not surprise me that all of the pictures that have been floating around the internet are all FALSE!!! The did this with the 4S and look what happened, nothing like what was found on the internet nor the cases that were pending shipment...........Wednesday is almost HERE!!! :)

Wrong, we had no parts leak with the 4s...well, not any anyone believed. Certainly none revealing a "teardrop" shaped iPhone. All we had were cases.
 
I kinda hope the iPhone will have NFC. I know it's a stretch...but...I think it's the only product that can push it because of sheer volume. Especially showing it off in commercials.


It's not bad on my Nexus S...but....wish it was more streamlined.
 
I kinda hope the iPhone will have NFC. I know it's a stretch...but...I think it's the only product that can push it because of sheer volume. Especially showing it off in commercials.


It's not bad on my Nexus S...but....wish it was more streamlined.

And the Fingerprint Scanning feature, but dont see that happening until next year either...
 
Yet you haven't mentioned any reason why they waited so long to introduce features that have been on other devices for a long time...

Part of it could be Apple waiting for the right time to sell.

See, even if Android comes out with a feature....it's usually reserved for one phone at least. Apple has used things as a marketing ploy...but it does work.

For example, Voice Search has been avalible on Android...but Siri sorta refined what it meant to talk to your phone.

So yes Apple lately does take longer to add certain features. But it gives them time to refine the device and make it a feature instead of a gimmick...in most cases.
 
Part of it could be Apple waiting for the right time to sell.

See, even if Android comes out with a feature....it's usually reserved for one phone at least. Apple has used things as a marketing ploy...but it does work.

For example, Voice Search has been avalible on Android...but Siri sorta refined what it meant to talk to your phone.

So yes Apple lately does take longer to add certain features. But it gives them time to refine the device and make it a feature instead of a gimmick...in most cases.

Yes; this is close to what I was saying. Siri was actually a company that Apple bought, and it originally made an app for iOS that was sold on the App Store, but it does seem like Apple waited for refinement of Siri and improved it (not sure about this). There are other cases where Apple waits for refinement before selling. There are also cases where the technology is already refined, but Apple does not use it. LTE, video recording, cameras on the iPod touch, and countless other things are examples. And there's the "not" case: Retina displays are cutting-edge technology that has had no time to be refined, yet it is already even in the MacBook Pro.
 
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The missing icon is the phone app , its green on the outside n blue on the dial page ,
 
Yes; this is close to what I was saying. Siri was actually a company that Apple bought, and it originally made an app for iOS that was sold on the App Store, but it does seem like Apple waited for refinement of Siri and improved it (not sure about this). There are other cases where Apple waits for refinement before selling. There are also cases where the technology is already refined, but Apple does not use it. LTE, video recording, cameras on the iPod touch, and countless other things are examples. And there's the "not" case: Retina displays are cutting-edge technology that has had no time to be refined, yet it is already even in the MacBook Pro.

It's about priorities and core values.

Apple is generally slow to adopt new standards/technologies UNLESS they can gain a strategic advantage by doing so or the new technology offers them a feature that is of high value, making the risk worthwhile.

Some technologies offer little or no value to the early adoptor - LTE being a case in point. The value of LTE is very small until LTE networks are widespread so early adoptors spend money and time implamenting an expensive new technology, and make compromises on the design of the product, for little or no benefit just so they can say they have it. Similar arguments can be made for NFC. These are products that don't really reward early adoptors but add in cost, risk and complexity. Apple's strategy for these sorts of things has always been to wait until the value proposition makes the cost worthwhile - and I don't just mean the cost in money.

Then there are other technologies which offer a strong competitive advantage to the early adoptor or provide advantages in design terms. High DPI displays, multi-touch, in-cell tech, nano sims and HTML5 are examples of this. None of these technologies or features require widespread infrustructure in order to be of value to the customer (apart from HTML5 but there's a strategic edge to that one) so Apple has chosen to lead with these and hold back on other areas. A lot of wood behind a few arrows, as Cook would say.

There's a third set of features/technologies which don't require a big infrustrure to be of value but Apple chose not to push ahead on early; these include the front camera on the iPad, video recording on the iPhone, etc. For these the thought process is probably a bit more nuanced and you really have to understand Apple's philosophy to get it. Apple doesn't believe a product is complete when you can't cram in anything more, but rather it is complete when you can't take anything away. Every feature over and above the core functionality has to be of high enough value to justify its inclusion because, otherwise, all you're adding is complexity and cost (this is a fact of life; there are no free lunches - anything you add to a product WILL come at a cost in terms of complexity if nothing else). If you follow this line of thinking then it makes sense that Apple would rather leave out a feature that's of marginal value to some users in order to keep in the simplicity and ease of use that's of great value to many users.

Apple's north star is simplicity. Apple doesn't always get it right but that's what it strives for in all things. What Apple doesn't care for is novelty for the sake of novelty. Apple will never adopt a new technology just because others are adopting it or change things up for the sake of being eye-catching. This is what Apple is and there's no point complaining about it. There are plenty of companies that don't think this way and there's never been a better time to get into consumer electronics if what you want is a wide array of quality options (I'd be buying a Nokia if I wasn't such a big Apple fan - a company with a great philosophy behind their products too, by the way) so if you're not a huge fan of simplicity and would rather have a bigger box of tricks (nothing wrong with that at all), you've a whole world to choose from. Apple is Apple and that's that.
 
Not necessarily. The amount of light it catches is mainly dependent on the aperture and sensor size. While it could be the case, a smaller diameter doesn't necessarily mean the aperture is reduced.

For example, my DSLR lens with the smallest diameter is also the one with the larger aperture (Canon 50mm f\1.8). Let's wait until Wednesday before drawing any conclusion.

I would imagine most of your other lenses are either zoom lenses or a longer focal length?

In the space we're talking about (can't make the lens any thicker), a smaller diameter lens with the same aperture would result in a smaller image circle or perhaps a wider angle focal length. Though I guess whoever makes the lens for apple could've used some of their engineering wizardry to make a smaller lens with no compromises whatsoever ;)
 
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Um..maybe a dumb question, but is the building to the right always blue at night? If not, does this have any significance? or is it just blue...lol

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per your blog post -- the icon is way too amateur and silly looking to be a built-in iOS app icon. sorry.

If you read the blog post correctly you would realise I was not claiming that it is the icon that will be used IT IS A VERY QUICK MOCKUP I MADE.

Unfortunately, as a full-time self-employed professional designer (including UI & Icon Design for many large multi/international clients), I don't always have time to design and develop hypothetical icons for a blog post. The time to design a less 'amateur' icon would outweigh any benefit I receive from it.

So far the blogpost has generated good traffic for me, but spending 4-5 hours (which will still be a lot less time than an Apple Designer would spend on an icon) to make it look 'professional' would mean that I have a negative return on investment (ie the cost of my time spent working on it would outweigh the benefits from the traffic).

So for now, I will stick to making decisions on how to effectively manage my site and deciding what is worth investing time into to keep myself profitable and you can continue trolling and dropping insults on anything that comes up ;)
 
It's about priorities and core values.

Pardon my language, but goddamn, that was a good post. :cool:

If you read the blog post correctly you would realise I was not claiming that it is the icon that will be used IT IS A VERY QUICK MOCKUP I MADE.

Unfortunately, as a full-time self-employed professional designer (including UI & Icon Design for many large multi/international clients), I don't always have time to design and develop hypothetical icons for a blog post.

Hahaha, outstanding, yeah, next time you should really dedicate a week of time for speculative icon design. :D
 
Pardon my language, but goddamn, that was a good post. :cool:



Hahaha, outstanding, yeah, next time you should really dedicate a week of time for speculative icon design. :D

Lol ;)

I've put a disclaimer on the the post now (in red) next to the images for the next person who decides to skim read and make snap judgements :D

I joined MacRumors quite a while back but have only participated frequently in the last few days and quite honestly, the negativity of some people on here is enough to put me off from posting/reading.

Comments about the some of the Front page posts such as "this is **** and should be deleted" - honestly, as a designer I am a fan of constructive criticism (eg this is **** because of X, Y & Z) but just making negative comments with no justification is pointless and does nothing but annoy others.
 
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