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Appleworks Updated to 6.2.9

it does "gathering information" for a retardedly long time but it does eventually stop and install.

hey at least it launches really fast for a program with ghetto versions of MS Office apps all-in-one like that.
 
After downloading it wouldn't install, a "code" problem or something. I'll just wait for the Software Update panel to show it. Currently, the server is down (so I suspect they're getting it ready). Appleworks is useful for most Mac users. It's not with all the bells and whistles, but it's fine. If you don't like it, fine. Don't use it! Mac Office is being updated by Microsoft but I just refuse to use M$ products when I have an alternative.
 
Re: Re: Let it go....

Originally posted by Chip NoVaMac
One for some of us like the look and feel of Apple products over others.
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Yeah! I really loved that puck mouse too! :)
 
Not to interrupt the 1-button mouse debate... ;)


For the record, I am an AppleWorks users. It reads and writes Word documents (so doed Panther TextEdit now, to a lesser degree.) and unlike the REAL Word, it doesn't grab random private data off of hard disks and attach it (easily viewable) to unrelated documents!

It needs to be replaced, but meanwhile it's highly functional (faster for some than Word, due to simplicity)--and a free maintenance update is hardly a bad thing.
 
Publish & Subscribe

The one feature I miss the most in AppleWorks is Publish & Subscribe. Bring back P&S and I'll buy AppleWorks for the rest of the machines.
 
Originally posted by nagromme
unlike the REAL Word, it doesn't grab random private data off of hard disks and attach it (easily viewable) to unrelated documents!
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Please cite documentation of this random private info attachment. I'm aware that MS Office for Windows had, read: In the past, the ability to track a person because it embeds distinguishing characteristic info into the file so a file can be tracked back to the user or the computer it was used on, but this is the first I've heard it embeds private info into the file. :confused:

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/1999/03-08custletter2.asp

AFAIK this has not been an issue since Office '97.
What info? You are suggesting random. How so? Does Office just pick strings of text from various places on the system and embeds it into the file? :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by nagromme
For the record, I am an AppleWorks users.
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I'm with you nagromme! I do 99.999% of my work in AppleWorks and print the documents to pdf. Other than the document summary giving away the fact that it was created using AppleWorks, no one knows the difference.

I do have Word, which I occasionally use. Yet, my experience has been that most people who send me Word documents could have accomplished the same task with an RTF document created with TextEdit. This doesn't hold true for everyone, of course. But it does apply to the majority in my case.
 
Originally posted by nagromme
Not to interrupt the 1-button mouse debate... ;)


For the record, I am an AppleWorks users. It reads and writes Word documents (so doed Panther TextEdit now, to a lesser degree.) and unlike the REAL Word, it doesn't grab random private data off of hard disks and attach it (easily viewable) to unrelated documents!

It needs to be replaced, but meanwhile it's highly functional (faster for some than Word, due to simplicity)--and a free maintenance update is hardly a bad thing.
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Plus it is only 71MB, whereas Office is at least 280MB.

I love Appleworks, its the only program for creating web graphics, that I can then modify and stylize in Photoshop. AW is a great program, I just wish AW7 would come out with a grammar check, that is all it needs, and maybe some Web stuff, like Claris Home Page, but make sure it is not entigrated into the Word Processor. I hate getting Word Documents printed from friends and instead of a URL there is the entry "bookmark reference not found" or "URL not Loaded". *SMEG*

TEG
 
Re: Re: Let it go....

Originally posted by SiliconAddict
As others will doubtlessly point out: What about laptops!??!
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Oh, please, don't get me started on a second mouse button on a laptop. I've spent time using both Mac and Windows laptops (I'm writing this on a PowerBook right now), and I CAN'T STAND the way Windows laptops implement a second mouse button. It's inconvenient, and difficult to use. Yes, this is my opinion, but my point is that not everyone is in your camp. If a decent way to implement a second mouse button on a laptop is come up with then I'd be all for it, at least for the PowerBooks (iBooks fall into a different catagory that I still think it makes sense to keep things simple). But for now, I don't see any real problem with using a modifier key to get to contextual menus. As a Power User, many of the apps I use I have to use a modifier key regularly, so it's far from counter intuitive to me...
 
Re: Installer not working

Several people have written:

I tried to install it, but the installer kept freezing on the "gathering information" step, and gave me the spinning wheel.
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I had the same problem. Repairing permissions fixed it. Might have been a fluke, but worth a try.
 
Originally posted by settledown
Appleworks updated??

I forgot about that App about 3 years ago. I use textedit(for quick letters or simple write ups), or Word(mainly to open the documents created in the business world).

If I am going to write a grocery list or The Great American Novel, Appleworks doesnt even cross my mind
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I still use it - run invoices from the database module, write letters, do stuff... I find Word and Excel needlessly complex for these tasks. Sure, AW has taken some wrong turns and become big and buggy (like Starting Points - ughh!). I actually hark back to the halcyon days of ClarisWorks Office...
 
I would luike AW 6 for windows made vailable to all users (like they did with the emac) and available tp non-us buyers.and is there updaters for international users outside the us yet?
 
I don't know about anyone else, but it seems that startup time has decreased by quite a bit (used to take ~6 secs, now ~2 secs on iBook G4 933). Also, the font menu, when in actual fonts, is much quicker popping up.

Oh - I LOVE the scrolling wheel support. I always would use it when in AppleWorks, nothing would happen, then I'd be like "What's wrong?", then I'd remember that AppleWorks didn't support the scroll wheel.

btw - Installed in a jiffy on iBook G4 OS 10.3.2! :)
 
Originally posted by geerlingguy
I don't know about anyone else, but it seems that startup time has decreased by quite a bit (used to take ~6 secs, now ~2 secs on iBook G4 933). Also, the font menu, when in actual fonts, is much quicker popping up.

btw - Installed in a jiffy on iBook G4 OS 10.3.2! :)
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The International version is up on the Apple UK site, and I can report the same. No problems installing and much faster start-up.
 
Yeah what happened to the Appleworks Devolpment team?

Someone killed them?

Jeez.


Where is appleworks go wrong?

Not having grammar support is one... and not 1000% compatibality with MS Word is another (yes 1000%)
 
WHo uses AppleWorks?

I have taught semester-long classes to high school students using just AppleWorks. It's a great little program that does so much, more importantly introduces students to the basics of several computer skills. ie. painting, vector drawing, spreadsheets, pwerpoint type presentations.

It really is a great STARTER program - it is what it is, and it does this perfectly.

After this I move the kids to Photoshop, Illustrator, DreamWeaver and they understand them SO much better.

I still use it, I am just waiting for an actual HTML program within it, something like FrontPage/PageMill.

And it's cheap!
 
Originally posted by Chip NoVaMac
As a realtive newbie, can someone explain why Apple hasn't even offered this as an option. I currently use a Graphire pad and would like an Apple alternative to the mouse.
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Tech support costs.

If you know anybody who works at a help desk, ask them how many people get confused when told to "right-click" on something. These people are a lot more common than you might like to believe.

As soon as Apple offers such a device as an option, complete idiot newbies will be told (by their naive geek friends) that they must choose this option. And they will then find themselves confused, and Apple will pay a lot (in terms of support calls) to deal with them.

It's far easier to just continue shipping their existing one-button mice and let those who really care go buy their own upgrades. It's not like mice are expensive devices.
 
Somebody who shall remain nameless finally gave up on Appleworks yesterday and bought Microsoft Office, even though he hates Microsoft and Office.

AW 6.2.7 had problems, including spacing problems when printing (what you saw was often not what you got), in particular with documents with tabs. Anyone curious about what I mean can check the tons of messages people have posted in Apple discussions, assuming they haven't been deleted (the messages, not the people!).

This version of Word (v.X) is much better than other ones I've used, and it's funny because it translates AW flawlessly so far, except if the original file has a pdf in it (which Word doesn't do apparently). So Word so far seems to do AW better than AW does!

It certainly does a lot better converting AW files than Appleworks does at converting Word files. That was the other factor in me buying Office. I will now be reading tons of .doc files this semester, and with AW not even doing spacing right with .cwk files I wanted something more reliable and less time-consuming.

The whole iLife "It's like Microsoft Office for the rest of your life" had me convinced that Apple would not compete with Office/Word any more and was just going to let AW die out.

I haven't had time to try out the rest of Office yet, but I'm happy with Word so far. I suppose I will download AW 6.2.9 to see if it fixed the spacing problem or other ones. Curses! Maybe I bailed a day too soon.
 
Re: U Let it GO! (Re: Let it go....)

Originally posted by ionas
"So quit waiting for Apple to make an uber mouse, spend $15 and you can find a nice multi-button, scroll wheel, optical mouse, or spend more money to get all the bells and whistles. "

i want it all in one package.
i dont wanna go out and buy a mouse, look if the mac drivers are shipped with it, argue that it doesnt look like the rest of us... eh the rest of my mac.
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Waaah wahhh wahhh. I'm too much of a stuck up prig to simply grab a $20 Microsoft mouse off the shelf at the Apple Store at the same time I bought the computer. There's something mystical about getting it in the same box with the computer and I won't be satisfied with anything that doesn't come in that box.

Get a life, crybaby.
 
Re: Re: U Let it GO! (Re: Let it go....)

Originally posted by shamino
Waaah wahhh wahhh. I'm too much of a stuck up prig to simply grab a $20 Microsoft mouse off the shelf at the Apple Store at the same time I bought the computer. There's something mystical about getting it in the same box with the computer and I won't be satisfied with anything that doesn't come in that box.

Get a life, crybaby.
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Your missing the point. You are forced to pay for something that you are going to throw away (the one button mouse) which is a waste of our time and money, and a waste of apples time (well, they still make a profit on it, but an immoral profit)... then you have to waste more time and money to buy something that should come with the computer as an option!

Whether you can pick up a $20 mouse or not isn't the point. Whether most people will be confused with it or not, is not the point. The point is, it should be an option, end of.

Whenever I pick up a new mac, I do two things... Get a two button mouse (or keep the old one, depending on where my old mac went), and upgrade the RAM. I can forgive them for skimping on RAM because a) It's dirt cheap and b) it keeps their prices down (maybe I couldn't have forgiven them when they were shipping OS X macs with 64-128 MB, but that's a different story), I cannot forgive them for charging me for yet *another* one button mouse that I'll never use!

Oh, and keep your playground talk to the playground. Cheers
 
There needs to be a native cocoa office suite. I don't care if it's AppleWorks or Office or something totally different, but it has to have a reasonable feature set, look and act like every other Cocoa program (streamlined, standard interface, support for system services, etc.) and have word, excel, and ppt document support.
I would buy this suite at almost any price. But it does not exist.

I would love to see someone (possibly Apple, possibly not) make a new office suite just to show off all the fancy features of Cocoa. :)
 
Originally posted by coolsoldier
There needs to be a native cocoa office suite.

I would love to see someone (possibly Apple, possibly not) make a new office suite just to show off all the fancy features of Cocoa. :)
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Much as I like AppleWorks, this is absolutely true. I guess, Apple thinks AW is enough to fill the productivity hole in their software lineup, but it is in need of replacement.
 
AW is excellent for someone like me who just sends text either as a PDF if it is a finished article, or as a Word doc or rtf doc if it has to be edited by someone else. Unfortunately AW falls flat on its face for anyone using a hint of an image in a document that has to be mailed off for editing.

I wonder like someone else commented, that MS Office for the rest of your life is possibly an admission that there isnt going to be a true Word compatible package for the Mac coming from Apple.

Does anyone know if any of the budding open source Office apps are totally MS compatible. If not, AW (plus MS Word) is pretty handy for most people's needs. It may be worth hanging on to until Apple have 95% market share and everyone recognises a .cwk file .

DING I just thought, AW is available for Windows. Apple could get it up to speed for the 21st Century and get it out there bundled with iTunes. Another Trojan horse.
 
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