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WOW ! I wander if Android 12 has the same limitation?
Will this be fixed in a future IOS?
Makes buying Ram on the M1 iPad useless at this point.
They guy that pays $2400 for the 16GB M1 is the sucker.
Useless? So you only ever run a single app?
 
I really get the feeling that WWDC is going to be iPad heavy. The new iPad Pros just scream the opportunity for Apple to re-imagine the original purpose of the iPad. What once was thought of as a device mostly for consumption can be a true creation device with the new hardware.

I’m thinking we’ll finally see iPadOS make a big break from iOS. I’m really hoping we’ll see things like Logic Pro and Final Cut Pro come to iPad. I think the main focus will be showing developers how they, too, can convert their Mac apps to iPad and leverage the better technology.

If Apple doesn’t do something like this, it will be a major failure on their part. The M1 iPad can truly replace Mac laptops — but only if the software comes with it. And, no, we won’t see MacOS on the iPad. It makes little sense to do so, and it isn’t how Apple sees their software and devices. But if they can make some real improvements to the iPad Pro experience, I’ll seriously consider trading in my 6 month old Air for a new Pro.
 
This just tells me that we’re in store for some big iPadOS news at WWDC. It doesn’t make sense that Apple would add all of this headroom for nothing.

I'm sorry. A reasonable response such as yours will not earn you one iota of forum cred here. Publicly expressing how aggrieved you are learning this news, will.
 
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Agree - there is 0% chance Apple gave the M1 a 16GB configuration “because the chips were lying around from M1 Macs” and they could dupe customers into paying for it. Apple is super stingy on RAM, especially in iOS/iPadOS devices. There is something on the horizon but the question is what? Upping the RAM available to apps or expanding multitasking perhaps, releasing Logic Pro, Final Cut Pro, and XCode for iPad? That would certainly justify configs up to 16GB but I am dreaming they stun us with a big announcement like Mac Apps running on the new IPP or even Big Sur dual boot. It’s unlikely but then again NO ONE predicted RAM would increase from 6GB to up to 16GB.
Except:

6 to 8gb was a natural progression from 6gb in the 2020s.

We also know that higher storage models need more RAM for data transfer etc from the older models. The 2018 models showed that where the 1TB had 6gb while the rest 4gb. It is not the first time the higher storage tier had more RAM.

Maybe the storage type here for 1 and 2TB need more RAM, and they want to make sure everyone has at least that 8gb.

It may be cheaper in scale to use the 16gb M1 variant than create a whole new one for an ipad version (1tb an 2tb) that are likely less popular models overall. It could in fact be a money thing, no one has any idea.

At the end of the day 99%+ of iPads sold or currently out there in use are 8gb of RAM or less. Do you really think more than 1% of sales an n owners hands of all iPads are 1 and 2TB 2021 models? Apple or devs are not going to do anything solely for a slim margin of users on a 16gb RAM model. That isn't realistic.

The more logical answer is the cost of scale thing since they already had a 16gb M1 ready to just pop in without spending tens of millions of dollars on a new setup just for 2 lower volume iPad models. They likely saved more money giving more RAM on those minority of sales here than a new fab setup.

That doesn't mean pro apps aren't coming that need 8gb. But this pipe dream of Mac or a huge OS improvement "because they offer 16gb" are very unlikely. You are still dealing with the most common denominator which are 4-8gb models that you have to cater the OS to run on.
 
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Although not quite as low as 5gb on a 16GB model, limiting the RAM per app is standard. It’s usually limited to 50% of the device memory at a time.
 
This is why I planned on waiting until wwdc before I make a decision on these Pro’s. Then again, my 2018 will likely benefit just the same from iPadOS 15 so maybe I’ll just save the money.
 
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I don't know why people think that Logic will be coming to iOS. Garageband is already "Logic for iOS". Apple is not going to add all of the fiddly bits from Logic that don't translate well to touchscreen.
 
WOW ! I wander if Android 12 has the same limitation?
Will this be fixed in a future IOS?
Makes buying Ram on the M1 iPad useless at this point.
They guy that pays $2400 for the 16GB M1 is the sucker.
Yet, this model will fly off the shelf. 5gb seems to me to be reasonable for an ipad...it's not a mac.
 
Massive difference from 2018, M1 chip, 8gb/16gb ram, faster ssd, wifi 6, mini led and more.

Feel like you purchased your iPad hoping that macOS will be coming to the iPad, this will never happen, not in the near future at least.

Best thing you can hope for is some pro features and pro apps being added at wwdc.

If that isn’t enough for you, then you did the right thing returning your iPad 👍
Or get a heavily discounted 2020 iPad Pro. Other than the miniLED display, it's the same thing.
 
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Exactly. Apple is all about margins, they aren’t going to add more expensive RAM for no reason. This is part of why Apple doesn’t really advertise how much RAM iPhones and iPads have.
Apple is about the user experience and they don't want people fretting over cpu, ram, chips etc.They just want their customers to use the device.

And of course Apple is about the margins. They are a for profit company and one of the fiduciary responsibilities of the CEO is the revenue and profits. So there is that.
 
Sucks for those who maxed on those 1 and 2 TB models. I guess if you want use up your RAM, you can always return the iPad and get a M1 MacBook Pro.
 
I don't know why people think that Logic will be coming to iOS. Garageband is already "Logic for iOS". Apple is not going to add all of the fiddly bits from Logic that don't translate well to touchscreen.
Apple really wants developers to bring their Mac apps to iPad. Putting Logic Pro on iPad would show developers how they can make complex applications work on touch. Also, who is buying an iPad Pro without a keyboard and track pad? Perhaps the biggest limitation is screen space. But I would love to have Logic Pro to do some editing or recording in the field without having to use a middle man application like Garage Band. It would be awesome to seamlessly go from a Mac to an iPad to do work.
 
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The keyboard and trackpad are there for those who want it. But I am 99% certain Apple is not going to allow applications that aren't optimized for touch as the primary input.
 
This should make us 2018 and 2020 iPad Pro owners quite delighted!

People don’t be shocked about apple just obsessing over making cash grabs now. Also don’t bet on apple making everything totally better with iPadOS 15. Sure it will be but apples reputation lately is one step forward two steps back with constantly gimping , un-gimping, re-gimping software for the last couple years.
 
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Apple really wants developers to bring their Mac apps to iPad. Putting Logic Pro on iPad would show developers how they can make complex applications work on touch. Also, who is buying an iPad Pro without a keyboard and track pad? Perhaps the biggest limitation is screen space. But I would love to have Logic Pro to do some editing or recording in the field without having to use a middle man application like Garage Band. It would be awesome to seamlessly go from a Mac to an iPad to do work.
I, for one, bought an iPad Pro with a smart folio and without a keyboard and track pad. and have no inclination to buy heavy accessories. The onboard keyboard and portability are much more important to me and I have a M1 Mac mini for heavy lifting.
 
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Except:

6 to 8gb was a natural progression from 6gb in the 2020s.

We also know that higher storage models need more RAM for data transfer etc from the older models. The 2018 models showed that where the 1TB had 6gb while the rest 4gb. It is not the first time the higher storage tier had more RAM.

Maybe the storage type here for 1 and 2TB need more RAM, and they want to make sure everyone has at least that 8gb.

It may be cheaper in scale to use the 16gb M1 variant than create a whole new one for an ipad version (1tb an 2tb) that are likely less popular models overall. It could in fact be a money thing, no one has any idea.

At the end of the day 99%+ of iPads sold or currently out there in use are 8gb of RAM or less. Do you really think more than 1% of sales an n owners hands of all iPads are 1 and 2TB 2021 models? Apple or devs are not going to do anything solely for a slim margin of users on a 16gb RAM model. That isn't realistic.

The more logical answer is the cost of scale thing since they already had a 16gb M1 ready to just pop in without spending tens of millions of dollars on a new setup just for 2 lower volume iPad models. They likely saved more money giving more RAM on those minority of sales here than a new fab setup.

That doesn't mean pro apps aren't coming that need 8gb. But this pipe dream of Mac or a huge OS improvement "because they offer 16gb" are very unlikely. You are still dealing with the most common denominator which are 4-8gb models that you have to cater the OS to run on.
You have some valid points but Apple isn't going to offer an extra 8GB RAM because the chips were "ready to just pop in". It's an embarrassment to Apple that its Pro tablet (which can cost up to $2400) can't run its Pro apps. Apple makes video editing software but yet they have to demo a third parties product at their hardware launches... embarrassing. At the very least the 16GB option I think almost guarantees that Final Cut Pro is coming to iPad Pro - those 4K video files will need that RAM and yes it's a small sliver of the iPad users who need that but they are paying dearly for the capability since iPads with 16GB cost more than MacBooks.
 
You don't even need to buy 1TB storage on Mac to get 16gb. you can base model that has 256GB ssd and upgrade to 16GB.

Honestly, a M1 MBA for $1199 comes with 256gb ssd and 16GB ram. Great deal, unlike the iPad Pro.

Spend 1799 for the iPad Pro to get 16GB lol and u can't even use it.
That’s exactly what I have. A base M1 MacBook Air with the 256GB SSD and 16GB of RAM. I can always use external hard drives if I run out of storage. I can’t upgrade RAM later on.
 
The iPad Pro user:

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Apple is about the user experience and they don't want people fretting over cpu, ram, chips etc.They just want their customers to use the device.

And of course Apple is about the margins. They are a for profit company and one of the fiduciary responsibilities of the CEO is the revenue and profits. So there is that.
Are we looking at the same Apple right now? The M1 iPad Pro reveal was ALL about cpu and chips and all that jazz, and nothing about the user experience.

Yea, we know very well old man Tim is all about the margins, to the point of releasing increasingly nonsensical product configurations that need a ton of peripherals and 3rd party solutions to "just work".
 
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