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Wait! Are you saying that M1 performance isn't a payoff?
No, his saying if you want to use the new features and pro Apps that will come with iOS 15, you’ll need to install iOS 15 betas or public betas, or wait till iOS 15 gets released in September.
 
@Kylo83 please stop talking rubbish. Here you go m1 MacBook Pro 13”. Clearly the ram isn’t tied to storage. Please stop insisting it is with every post now. Thanks.

There could be a lot of reasons why Apple went this route, it's pretty much pure speculation. It could be that Apple had a huge inventory of the M1 with 16GB SoCs and it decided to pair it with a higher tier iPad Pro.

WWDC will give us some more clues. What will people say if there is nothing announced at WWDC that explains the extra RAM?
 
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There could be a lot of reasons why Apple went this route, it's pretty much pure speculation. It could be that Apple had a huge inventory of the M1 with 16GB SoCs and it decided to pair it with a higher tier iPad Pro.

WWDC will give us some more clues. What will people say if there is nothing announced at WWDC that explains the extra RAM?
It’s pretty much 50/50 out there at the moment, guess we‘ll see who’s right come wwdc.

they will be pissed and apple ended up taking them for a ride lol, but that won’t happen confident pro apps are coming.
 
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You better not return that iPad, wwdc is going to be wild 😎 Jon Prosser told me himself, true story 😂

Let’s wait and see before we start judging, still 100% confident we’ll see pro apps for the iPad and a revamp for iPadOS.

No way apple added 16gb ram and a 2tb ssd just because they can, that 16gb ram is going to get a thrashing after wwdc 😎
Everybody in attendance at the Steve Jobs Theater will be getting a new iMac Pro for free.
 
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There could be a lot of reasons why Apple went this route, it's pretty much pure speculation. It could be that Apple had a huge inventory of the M1 with 16GB SoCs and it decided to pair it with a higher tier iPad Pro.

WWDC will give us some more clues. What will people say if there is nothing announced at WWDC that explains the extra RAM?
The key here is “decided to”, and not “had to” because “the 1TB M1 comes with 16GB RAM and they’re saving money”, because that’s not true as the storage is separate.
 
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Everybody in attendance at the Steve Jobs Theater will be getting a new iMac Pro for free.
Don’t push it, base models mac minis at best, times are tough these days, can’t go giving away iMac Pros 🙄😂
 
Exactly. Apple is all about margins, they aren’t going to add more expensive RAM for no reason. This is part of why Apple doesn’t really advertise how much RAM iPhones and iPads have.
You are correct. People don’t understand on here- all manufacturers will look for any penny to save bc that is how mass production works.
 
The key here is “decided to”, and not “had to” because “the 1TB M1 comes with 16GB RAM and they’re saving money”, because that’s not true as the storage is separate.

If you're Apple and had a huge inventory of the M1 with 16GB SoC and decided to include that in the iPad Pro, it makes sense to allocate the chip to the more expensive storage options. I'm sure they could have put 8GB into the 1TB as well, but then how does that help them when the 8GB SoC is probably in much higher demand than the 16GB, and the huge inventory.

This is of course pure speculation as mentioned. It could be many reasons, but people seem 100% certain the reason 16GB was included was because pro apps. If that's the case, does than mean those with 8GB are going to be annoyed they didn't spring for the 16GB?
 
Unless the SKUs that Apple used of the M1 are packaged up in a way that 8/16GB are the only options. People are assuming that Apple increased the RAM for some master plan, which maybe the case, but it could just be the result of using the M1. It may have been cheaper for them to do this than to create a new SKU for the 2021 iPad Pro.
We'll see but I think Apple will make the whole RAM available. In my opinion they wouldn't acknowledged the whole capacity if they're not gonna use it in the future. That would be quite shady if your theory is right.
 
Seems a bit backwards to be announcing capable hardware only to artificially limit everything vis software, but hopefully iPadOS 15 brings some serious changes.
Agreed. Though more background apps before they start closing is worth it imo, it’s so nice when old apps remember exactly where you were last time. It’s like the new xbox’s fast loading feature, once you’re used to it you will miss it if it were gone.
 
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Despite Apple offering the M1 iPad Pro in configurations with 8GB and 16GB of RAM, developers are now indicating that apps are limited to just 5GB of RAM usage, regardless of the configuration the app is running on.

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The M1 iPad Pro comes in two memory configurations; the 128GB, 256GB, and 512GB models feature 8GB of RAM, while the 1TB and 2TB variants offer 16GB of memory, the highest ever in an iPad. Even with the unprecedented amount of RAM on the iPad, developers are reportedly severely limited in the amount they can actually use.

Posted by the developer behind the graphic and design app Artstudio Pro on the Procreate Forum, apps can only use 5GB of RAM on the new M1 iPad Pros. According to the developer, attempting to use anymore will cause the app to crash.
Following the release of its M1-optimized app, Procreate also noted on Twitter that with either 8GB or 16GB of available RAM, the app is limited by the amount of RAM it can use.


The previous maximum RAM in an iPad was last year's iPad Pro which featured 6GB of RAM, regardless of storage configuration. Given, a 5GB limit on apps imposed by iPadOS wouldn't necessarily ring any alarm bells as developers would have access to the majority of the available memory. Although, with the M1 iPad Pro, developers cannot tap the full potential of the available hardware.

The added RAM, especially in the higher-end 1TB and 2TB models, will still benefit the user by allowing them to keep more apps open in the background. iPadOS itself can access the M1's entire pool of unified memory, while apps can reportedly only access 5GB of it.

iPad users have long voiced the mantra that iPadOS doesn't take full advantage of the available hardware and potential of the iPad Pro, and now thanks to the M1 chip inside of the iPad Pro, that's certainly more of a case.

Apple will hold its Worldwide Developers Conference on June 7, where it's expected to announce iOS 15, watchOS 8, macOS 12, tvOS 15, and iPadOS 15. Bloomberg has reported that iPadOS 15 will include the biggest redesign to the iPad homescreen since the iPad first launched, including the ability for users to place widgets anywhere on the grid.

We've contacted Apple for clarification regarding the amount of RAM apps can access and will update this post if we hear back.

Article Link: Apps Reportedly Limited to Maximum of 5GB RAM in iPadOS, Even With 16GB M1 iPad Pro
The whole “don’t buy something that’ll be great after a future update, buy something that’s great now, today” mantra couldn’t be more valid.

Now there’s literally no reason to feel regret if Apple does something amazing with iPadOS because it’ll only be post update that 5GB+ RAM iPads can actually make use of it.

Too bad for Apple this fact slipped while many buyers are still within the return window.

Incredible that they couldn’t hold back the M1 iPads launch until post WWDC. But that’s also assuming a lot -nobody knows for a fact what they’ll do with iPadOS 15.

Apple has repeatedly put completely overpowered components in the iPads while still crippling them in the software department. Maybe they’ll just keep it “locked up” forever.
 
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Seriously, you need to stop with this garbage as there is a fundamental flaw in your assertion ...... the flash storage is not part of the M1 SoC package, they are separate chips. So why would Apple use an M1 16GB SoC instead of an 8GB SoC? Surely they would just use the M1 8GB SoC paired with 1TB of flash storage chips?

They are CHOOSING to pair the 16GB M1 SoC with 1TB and 2TB flash storage.

Feel free to read the teardowns of the M1 Macbooks which list the flash chips as separate chips.

You're welcome. :cool:
Finally someone addressed his nonsense. I think he’s just a troll.
 
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There could be a lot of reasons why Apple went this route, it's pretty much pure speculation. It could be that Apple had a huge inventory of the M1 with 16GB SoCs and it decided to pair it with a higher tier iPad Pro.

WWDC will give us some more clues. What will people say if there is nothing announced at WWDC that explains the extra RAM?
Maybe, but the person I’m quoting is insisting that the 16gb ram amount is tied to the higher storage options on the m1, even on the mac. It isn’t, and I was just showing him so.
 
Mac rumors must be making a killing off ad revenue tonight, this thread is going off.
 
Maybe, but the person I’m quoting is insisting that the 16gb ram amount is tied to the higher storage options on the m1, even on the mac. It isn’t, and I was just showing him so.
Quite right.

If you're going to include M1/16GB in an iPad for "reasons", it does somewhat make sense to include that at a higher storage tier, rather than part of the base spec. The M1/8GB is probably in much higher demand than M1/16GB.
 
I guess it's to make sure that an app will work properly on older iPads with less RAM?

Maybe.

iOS doesn't have swap, so if those 5 GiB are ever too much, they need to be purged entirely from physical RAM. That means the app gets killed regardless. Use more than 5 GiB of data, and you lose even more…

And even with this limit it's still better to have more RAM, because at 16GB you might be able to switch between 3 apps without any of them being "unloaded from RAM" in the background,

Exactly.
 
Maybe.

iOS doesn't have swap, so if those 5 GiB are ever too much, they need to be purged entirely from physical RAM. That means the app gets killed regardless. Use more than 5 GiB of data, and you lose even more…
Where’s Phil Schiller when you need him 🤔
 
Incredible that they couldn’t hold back the M1 iPads launch until post WWDC. But that’s also assuming a lot -nobody knows for a fact what they’ll do with iPadOS 15.
That’s easy to answer. Marketing.

We know that the M1X or whatever it will be called is coming soon, if not at WWDC. It becomes more difficult to hype how you put a ‘mac’ chip (yes I know it’s just the variation of the A14 but this is marketing here) into an iPad but also simultaneously hype up how much better the M1X chip is over the standard M1 chip. People would start to ask why they didn’t then put the M1X chip into the iPad Pro etc etc

It just made sense all round to release the remaining M1 products together (iMac & iPad Pro).

As far as software goes it’s fairly irrelevant here. Maybe it’s updated to take advantage of the power, maybe it isn’t. The main thing is that Apple has hyped it enough that people buy it anyway.
 
Haven’t read all 4 pages so sorry if it has been posted before, but… allowing apps to use all 8 or 16GB ram in M1 iPad pro M1 could CoS comparability problems in apps used on previous generations. Also whilst in the last iPad Pro, the 6GB ram was shared across every open app and iOS system tasks, the new iPad pro can use all 6GB for 1 single app, leaving 10GB free for other apps and the OS to use. Which would mean more apps in active memory, less reloading, faster switching.
 
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