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Are Apple iBooks Next?
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My one wish would actually be for the iBooks to get *smaller* - at least offer a smaller version. Something like a subnotebook, but relatively full-featured. Like a 10" for $ 699 with CD-ROM. Just perfect for grade school kids, teens, or anyone who just needs a cheap little machine to write notes on or check email on the road, but does their real work on a desktop machine.
But I know it's not going to happen, of course, just dreamin'.
But I know it's not going to happen, of course, just dreamin'.
I think it would make a lot of sense for Apple to just go with a 13" and higher resoloution. It could then offer just two options. With BT built in.
40gb Combo
80Gb DVD-R.
A 1.1ghz G3 with 1mb L2 can easily handle the rendering.
The costs reductions involved in the economy of scale would help compensate for the larger screen size. The market Apple is aiming for is education and in order to suceed they need to offer something equal or better than Dell.
40gb Combo
80Gb DVD-R.
A 1.1ghz G3 with 1mb L2 can easily handle the rendering.
The costs reductions involved in the economy of scale would help compensate for the larger screen size. The market Apple is aiming for is education and in order to suceed they need to offer something equal or better than Dell.
What legal challenges?
IBM already has VMX, their version of AltiVec, in the G5 and the instruction set is available to all in the AIM alliance. The challenges are purely technical. If we ever see a 750VX 'Mojave' which is rumoured to include VMX and start at 1.4Ghz then it would cream the current G4, especially with a 200Mhz FSB and 1MB L2. I don't think we'd see a chip like that until the G5 is down to 90nm process and running low power/2Ghz in a Powerbook though.
However, all this talk about using the 750GX is premature surely with IBM saying the chip won't be in production until December and it'll consume 8W instead of the 750FXs 5.4W.
If there is a new iBook 'soon', I'd bet on it still being a 750FX at 900Mhz but with USB2, Airport Extreme, maybe Bluetooth built in but that's a pro feature IMHO, maybe 256MB base RAM because 128MB is just silly with OSX, but that's about it.
I fail to see why you'd need FW800 even on a pro laptop never mind the iBook. What are you going to do with it? Attach a Firewire RAID storage device? FW400 is still way quicker than USB2 and both are way quicker than an external drive can deliver.
What graphics do you think the ibook would have, I am thinking ether Radeon 9000 or Geforce FX5200. The current Radeon 7500M is faster than the Geforce 420go in the old 12 PBs, so I am hoping they do not use that.
Re: More 14" bigotry
Apple, like most companies, release products not to meet a perceived user need or provide an optimal solution, but to fill a perceived or existing market niche.
I imagine many users don't even know that they are just buying bigger pixels when they buy the 14", most would assume that bigger = more because that is the general tendency in larger screens. The fact than many would not realise or notice that they did not get that added value doesn't make Apples actions any less cynical. If anything, it makes it worse.
I cannot think of any other manufacturer selling two laptops of two different sizes with the same base resolution - don't kid yourself, its a crock. And if you CAN find another manufacturer, then that's two crocks. Does this make it right? Its right for Apple.
OK, thats a valid point, but it isn't a real objection - Most apps and the system allow you to control the point size of the text and the icon size in the finder to suit your taste and eyesight, and the more pixels you have to play with in general the better, so thats a minor objection to the benefits of having more resolution.
Wrong - Marketing is what I do, and my whole point is that Apple has exactly addressed a real market niche, an niche combined of those who genuinely prefer the bigger text, and ALSO those who know no better or worse are frankly mislead - so addressing that niche doesn't make their methods and motivations somehow benevolent. They exist for profit, not your benefit, and so actions like deliberately crippling a product or processor range for instance CAN be and are completely in accordance with maximising that profit.
Apple is not some sacred cow that never does wrong and exists for the betterment of mankind. They have more vision and humanity than many companies, but the bottom line rules.
There are many posts in this forum discussing why the G3 ibook is not "allowed" to exceed the speed of the G4 Powerbooks for "marketing" reasons. There was one earlier in this thread. Wouldn't you like a faster iBook, perhaps faster than the Powermac in pure GHz at least, why do you think they are not?
They must consider their overall profit margins, the powerbooks make more money for them and to maintain the aura of a professional product they must appear superior to the "consumer" model on all points. This is also why the top pro desktop machines are faster than the top iMacs, not because it HAS to be so. (G5 issues aside).
As for bigotry - I have always found the people most likely to use words like bigot and idiot in a post are those with the least real substance to their arguments - try intelligent reasoned discussion instead of emotive terms of abuse and you will get more respect.
Apple, like most companies, release products not to meet a perceived user need or provide an optimal solution, but to fill a perceived or existing market niche.
I imagine many users don't even know that they are just buying bigger pixels when they buy the 14", most would assume that bigger = more because that is the general tendency in larger screens. The fact than many would not realise or notice that they did not get that added value doesn't make Apples actions any less cynical. If anything, it makes it worse.
I cannot think of any other manufacturer selling two laptops of two different sizes with the same base resolution - don't kid yourself, its a crock. And if you CAN find another manufacturer, then that's two crocks. Does this make it right? Its right for Apple.
OK, thats a valid point, but it isn't a real objection - Most apps and the system allow you to control the point size of the text and the icon size in the finder to suit your taste and eyesight, and the more pixels you have to play with in general the better, so thats a minor objection to the benefits of having more resolution.
Wrong - Marketing is what I do, and my whole point is that Apple has exactly addressed a real market niche, an niche combined of those who genuinely prefer the bigger text, and ALSO those who know no better or worse are frankly mislead - so addressing that niche doesn't make their methods and motivations somehow benevolent. They exist for profit, not your benefit, and so actions like deliberately crippling a product or processor range for instance CAN be and are completely in accordance with maximising that profit.
Apple is not some sacred cow that never does wrong and exists for the betterment of mankind. They have more vision and humanity than many companies, but the bottom line rules.
There are many posts in this forum discussing why the G3 ibook is not "allowed" to exceed the speed of the G4 Powerbooks for "marketing" reasons. There was one earlier in this thread. Wouldn't you like a faster iBook, perhaps faster than the Powermac in pure GHz at least, why do you think they are not?
They must consider their overall profit margins, the powerbooks make more money for them and to maintain the aura of a professional product they must appear superior to the "consumer" model on all points. This is also why the top pro desktop machines are faster than the top iMacs, not because it HAS to be so. (G5 issues aside).
As for bigotry - I have always found the people most likely to use words like bigot and idiot in a post are those with the least real substance to their arguments - try intelligent reasoned discussion instead of emotive terms of abuse and you will get more respect.
Sheesh, I've never seen a 14" bigot before, but apparently we have one here.
I bought a 14" iBook, and I'm a VERY technical person. I love it. I wouldn't go 12" (though I can see why some would) and oddly enough, many of my tech-savvy friends own 14" iBooks as well. We just really like them and Apple sells a ton. If you want to convince me I'm wrong, go ahead, but I'm the one making the choice.
I bought a 14" iBook, and I'm a VERY technical person. I love it. I wouldn't go 12" (though I can see why some would) and oddly enough, many of my tech-savvy friends own 14" iBooks as well. We just really like them and Apple sells a ton. If you want to convince me I'm wrong, go ahead, but I'm the one making the choice.
And they´re of! 6 more month of lovley rumors!
Wow, many opinions, I say greate
Well, bennetsaysargh, you are not the only one. I´ve been waiting for a 1 ghz iBook since the 800 mhz came out and I´m still stuck with my "pice-of-****"-wintel.
But please people, don´t start any rumours about the new iBook getting Altivec, it will not. Yes, there is a version of the 750GX with Altivec planned but I´m almost sertain that it will not be in the next iBook. It would cost more, drain more battery and it´s also a commersial thing; "Altivec is for PB". Besides, we (who whant iBook) don´t need it. Only programs that suport it can
take advantidge of it and those programs are, if I´m not mistaken, Photoshop & co. If you plan to use Photoshop & co professionaly you should get the PB, couse if you can afford Photoshop, you can afford a PB. And like airmac said, it´s not speed we´re after, just a greate notebook.
About the 14" iBook, they don´t apeal to me either, but I think many people buy them. Even in my small home town I heard about 3 people getting a 14". And don´t forget, it has the longest battery life of all mac portables.
Also, I also don´t think the next iBook will be 1.1 ghz, it will be 1 ghz. That way it will still be clear to most people that PB is more powerfull than iBook and Apple can ugrade the iBook line once more (updates=new customers) before it´s time for a new CPU design.
And I don´t think iBook will be updated sometime soon, after all IBM has been saying that the 750GX woun´t go in production before dec -03. http://www-3.ibm.com/chips/products/powerpc/newsletter/jun2003/newproductfocus.html
Joshua305, no it´s no problem, it´s still more "lowpower" than the G4.
Dang, Rincewind42, you go girl! Really good post, I aploud you!
speechgod, I agree.
Jan/Feb -04
White iBook case
1 ghz G3 1 mb cache
133 mhz buss (IF PB G5 is out) If not, I´m gonna overklock it to 133. Fact.
128 onboard ram
40-60 gb HD
Radeon 9000 32 mb (think low cost)
And that is my opinion, not facts.
Wow, many opinions, I say greate
Well, bennetsaysargh, you are not the only one. I´ve been waiting for a 1 ghz iBook since the 800 mhz came out and I´m still stuck with my "pice-of-****"-wintel.
But please people, don´t start any rumours about the new iBook getting Altivec, it will not. Yes, there is a version of the 750GX with Altivec planned but I´m almost sertain that it will not be in the next iBook. It would cost more, drain more battery and it´s also a commersial thing; "Altivec is for PB". Besides, we (who whant iBook) don´t need it. Only programs that suport it can
take advantidge of it and those programs are, if I´m not mistaken, Photoshop & co. If you plan to use Photoshop & co professionaly you should get the PB, couse if you can afford Photoshop, you can afford a PB. And like airmac said, it´s not speed we´re after, just a greate notebook.
About the 14" iBook, they don´t apeal to me either, but I think many people buy them. Even in my small home town I heard about 3 people getting a 14". And don´t forget, it has the longest battery life of all mac portables.
Also, I also don´t think the next iBook will be 1.1 ghz, it will be 1 ghz. That way it will still be clear to most people that PB is more powerfull than iBook and Apple can ugrade the iBook line once more (updates=new customers) before it´s time for a new CPU design.
And I don´t think iBook will be updated sometime soon, after all IBM has been saying that the 750GX woun´t go in production before dec -03. http://www-3.ibm.com/chips/products/powerpc/newsletter/jun2003/newproductfocus.html
Joshua305, no it´s no problem, it´s still more "lowpower" than the G4.
Dang, Rincewind42, you go girl! Really good post, I aploud you!
speechgod, I agree.
Jan/Feb -04
White iBook case
1 ghz G3 1 mb cache
133 mhz buss (IF PB G5 is out) If not, I´m gonna overklock it to 133. Fact.
128 onboard ram
40-60 gb HD
Radeon 9000 32 mb (think low cost)
And that is my opinion, not facts.
I would go a little further: the challenge would be getting Apple to use the resulting chip, which would, of course, be better and/or faster then the G4. It would be a little embarrassing to have the consumer portable line suddenly leapfrog the pro line.
Perhaps it is as simple as waiting for the G5 PowerBooks to be released. That way Apple retains the pro/consumer disparity.
Re: Re: More 14" bigotry
Sigh. "...did not get that added value..." Here's a multiple-choice question for you: Compared to 12" screens of the same resolution, are 14.1" screens (a) more expensive, or (b) the same cost?
Obviously the consumers know the answer.
Your assumption that some percentage of buyers have been implicitly or explicitly deceived is baseless speculation.
News flash: a company makes a profit by delivering a desirable product. A market economy works because companies have financial incentives to deliver what consumers want. If you are correct in your belief that Big Bad Apple is somehow deceiving poor, helpless consumers into buying inferior products, then Apple will suffer financially, and will deserve to do so.
What's amazing to me is that none of these alleged victims have posted complaints. Every post on this board by 14" owners have been positive. Perhaps Apple deliberately crippled the victims' internet connections as well?
For the record, I don't trust any organization that claims to exist for the betterment of mankind. A market economy is the only moral economy, IMHO. As I said, the market will determine if Apple is delivering a desirable product, and Apple will adjust by making their products more desirable and maximizing their profits, thus ensuring their survival. Rock on Apple!
You speak as if (a) Apple has no right to choose their marketing strategy to maximize profits, (b) you have no choice of which computer to buy, and (c) you want something for nothing.
If you want a faster iBook, pay for it -- get a Powerbook. If you don't like the trade-offs inherent in Apple's products or marketing, there are a thousand other choices, each with their own set of trade-offs. Apple is free to position their products as they see fit, and you and I are free to take them or leave them.
You seem to be of the opinion that Apple makes too much profit. If any entity other than the market determines acceptable profit margins, everyone suffers -- corporations and consumers alike. This is Econ 101.
I'm not saying Apple can do no wrong. Whine about their products all you like. I've got my own set of complaints. But I'm not about to claim that Apple is somehow being unfair or deceptive or greedy because their choices don't mesh with my sophomoric wish list.
Call 1-800-421-WAAH.
Sigh. "...did not get that added value..." Here's a multiple-choice question for you: Compared to 12" screens of the same resolution, are 14.1" screens (a) more expensive, or (b) the same cost?
Obviously the consumers know the answer.
Your assumption that some percentage of buyers have been implicitly or explicitly deceived is baseless speculation.
News flash: a company makes a profit by delivering a desirable product. A market economy works because companies have financial incentives to deliver what consumers want. If you are correct in your belief that Big Bad Apple is somehow deceiving poor, helpless consumers into buying inferior products, then Apple will suffer financially, and will deserve to do so.
What's amazing to me is that none of these alleged victims have posted complaints. Every post on this board by 14" owners have been positive. Perhaps Apple deliberately crippled the victims' internet connections as well?
For the record, I don't trust any organization that claims to exist for the betterment of mankind. A market economy is the only moral economy, IMHO. As I said, the market will determine if Apple is delivering a desirable product, and Apple will adjust by making their products more desirable and maximizing their profits, thus ensuring their survival. Rock on Apple!
You speak as if (a) Apple has no right to choose their marketing strategy to maximize profits, (b) you have no choice of which computer to buy, and (c) you want something for nothing.
If you want a faster iBook, pay for it -- get a Powerbook. If you don't like the trade-offs inherent in Apple's products or marketing, there are a thousand other choices, each with their own set of trade-offs. Apple is free to position their products as they see fit, and you and I are free to take them or leave them.
You seem to be of the opinion that Apple makes too much profit. If any entity other than the market determines acceptable profit margins, everyone suffers -- corporations and consumers alike. This is Econ 101.
I'm not saying Apple can do no wrong. Whine about their products all you like. I've got my own set of complaints. But I'm not about to claim that Apple is somehow being unfair or deceptive or greedy because their choices don't mesh with my sophomoric wish list.
Call 1-800-421-WAAH.
Waiting for Bigot
Ahh the 'b' word again.
A bigot is someone blindly and obstinately devoted to party or creed, or a blind zealot. I am hearing lots of use of the term recently from people who seem to be showing exactly that behaviour.
Its a very handy term to fling around when someone has a few good reasons for not liking something and you cannot be bothered finding a solid counter argument, almost as handy as calling someone a "n@zi".
Good for you, I hope you enjoy the bigger size, I've have tried both, I purchased the 12" iBook. I wish it had even more pixels, and if the 14 had a few more, I probably would have bought that. It does get an extra hours battery life.
But, in the interests of further discussion, please, tell me if anyone can find a 14" CURRENTLY in production by any of Apples major competitors which only displays 1024 x 768 pixels. Then you'll have some facts to hit me over the head with. Find half a dozen and I'll take off my white pointy hood and extinguish the burning cross!
Ahh the 'b' word again.
A bigot is someone blindly and obstinately devoted to party or creed, or a blind zealot. I am hearing lots of use of the term recently from people who seem to be showing exactly that behaviour.
Its a very handy term to fling around when someone has a few good reasons for not liking something and you cannot be bothered finding a solid counter argument, almost as handy as calling someone a "n@zi".
Good for you, I hope you enjoy the bigger size, I've have tried both, I purchased the 12" iBook. I wish it had even more pixels, and if the 14 had a few more, I probably would have bought that. It does get an extra hours battery life.
But, in the interests of further discussion, please, tell me if anyone can find a 14" CURRENTLY in production by any of Apples major competitors which only displays 1024 x 768 pixels. Then you'll have some facts to hit me over the head with.
Find half a dozen and I'll take off my white pointy hood and extinguish the burning cross! Re: Re: Re: More 14" bigotry
Presumably more expensive, as there is a $200 price difference between the two models for virtually no gain. Go check the website. You are paying a lot more for those bigger pixels.
Touche
No, I want something for my extra $200. You see it as a feature. I see it as a rip off.
Now I am a sophomore, because I don't feel this machine is good value compared to its smaller peer? A little dramatic I think!
Presumably more expensive, as there is a $200 price difference between the two models for virtually no gain. Go check the website. You are paying a lot more for those bigger pixels.
Touche
No, I want something for my extra $200. You see it as a feature. I see it as a rip off.
Now I am a sophomore, because I don't feel this machine is good value compared to its smaller peer? A little dramatic I think!
I like your comment, it put's things into perspective. Now that Powerbooks got updated, of course the 12 inch iBook is not so attractive isn't it? I would like to point 2 things why I own the iBook: i like the feel of it and i'm in love with white...
Call the police! Apple is selling a unique product!
No argument on the overuse of that term, but try looking beyond the primary definition in the dictionary. My Oxford-American says "narrow-minded or intolerant". Not entirely inappropriate, IMHO.
Let's assume there are no comparable products on the market. So what do we have? Apple is selling a product that nobody else is selling. Apparently people are actually buying them, and what little anecdotal evidence we have suggests that their owners are happy with their purchase.
Okay, now, type really slow so I can understand: where's the problem?
Originally posted by mvc
Ahh the 'b' word again.
A bigot is someone blindly and obstinately devoted to party or creed, or a blind zealot. I am hearing lots of use of the term recently from people who seem to be showing exactly that behaviour.
No argument on the overuse of that term, but try looking beyond the primary definition in the dictionary. My Oxford-American says "narrow-minded or intolerant". Not entirely inappropriate, IMHO.
But, in the interests of further discussion, please, tell me if anyone can find a 14" CURRENTLY in production by any of Apples major competitors which only displays 1024 x 768 pixels. Then you'll have some facts to hit me over the head with.
Let's assume there are no comparable products on the market. So what do we have? Apple is selling a product that nobody else is selling. Apparently people are actually buying them, and what little anecdotal evidence we have suggests that their owners are happy with their purchase.
Okay, now, type really slow so I can understand: where's the problem?
Re: Re: Re: Re: More 14" bigotry
"Virtually no gain"? So, those who pay the extra $200 are idiots -- paying for nothing? Please! Just because it's no added value to you doesn't mean that's true for everyone. You already admitted that "some" would value the larger pixels. Since the only difference between the two models is screen size and battery life, I would contend that pixel size is the main draw to the 14" model. Get over it.
I imagine you're a very thoughtful and insightful individual. But you sound sophomoric when you whine about Apple's priorities not being the same as your own.
"Virtually no gain"? So, those who pay the extra $200 are idiots -- paying for nothing? Please! Just because it's no added value to you doesn't mean that's true for everyone. You already admitted that "some" would value the larger pixels. Since the only difference between the two models is screen size and battery life, I would contend that pixel size is the main draw to the 14" model. Get over it.
I imagine you're a very thoughtful and insightful individual. But you sound sophomoric when you whine about Apple's priorities not being the same as your own.
The evil of money
Ultimately, I would like to believe, that Apple is in business for more than just to earn a buck. Otherwise, why really bother? I like the Omnigroup's philosophy of importance of a business (in decreasing order): Create good software; make money; have fun.
Yes, Apple is a business and they need to make money, or else they won't survive. But considering the love and drive put into their products, I think there is that strong element to make good (great) products, both hardware and software.
Ultimately, I would like to believe, that Apple is in business for more than just to earn a buck. Otherwise, why really bother? I like the Omnigroup's philosophy of importance of a business (in decreasing order): Create good software; make money; have fun.
Yes, Apple is a business and they need to make money, or else they won't survive. But considering the love and drive put into their products, I think there is that strong element to make good (great) products, both hardware and software.
white is cool
It's funny, I really like the look of the "new" white iBooks. I liked the old ones too, but the new, what do they call it, opaque look is pretty sweet.
And any guy who thinks "white is girly" needs to see a shrink for inferiority complex issues. White is cool, and plenty manly. But then again, I'm comfortable with my sexuality, as I'm willing to bet the majority of American men are not.
It's funny, I really like the look of the "new" white iBooks. I liked the old ones too, but the new, what do they call it, opaque look is pretty sweet.
And any guy who thinks "white is girly" needs to see a shrink for inferiority complex issues. White is cool, and plenty manly. But then again, I'm comfortable with my sexuality, as I'm willing to bet the majority of American men are not.
Re: Re: Re: Re: More 14" bigotry
Maybe people don't remember when the 12" iBook was introduced. Everybody loved it, but a big complaint about it was the difficulty reading the screen. Even the magazine reviews referenced it. Yes, they said, you could scale the resolution back to 800x600, but it looked lousy since it wasn't the native resolution.
The 14" model wasn't some crazy ripoff scheme dreamed up by Apple. It was designed to appeal to the exact market that was complaining about the screen readibility when the 12" model came out. I'm no marketing major, but it sounds to me like when you've got a customer base wanting a particular product, then it makes sense to try to build it if you think you'll make money off it. It looks like that's what Apple did, and many people like me who bought the 14" model are very happy they did it.
Keep in mind that portability is only one aspect of a laptop. Mine lives in the house all the time and only occasionally travels from room to room. I mostly use it on the couch. The extra lb of weight isn't that big a deal to me, but I'm looking at that screen all the time, so the size and readability are of more importance to me. If I was a college student lugging the thing around all the time, I'd definitely go with the smaller model.
Either way, even the 14" model is still lighter than my indigo clamshell, with better resolution and a bigger screen.
Maybe people don't remember when the 12" iBook was introduced. Everybody loved it, but a big complaint about it was the difficulty reading the screen. Even the magazine reviews referenced it. Yes, they said, you could scale the resolution back to 800x600, but it looked lousy since it wasn't the native resolution.
The 14" model wasn't some crazy ripoff scheme dreamed up by Apple. It was designed to appeal to the exact market that was complaining about the screen readibility when the 12" model came out. I'm no marketing major, but it sounds to me like when you've got a customer base wanting a particular product, then it makes sense to try to build it if you think you'll make money off it. It looks like that's what Apple did, and many people like me who bought the 14" model are very happy they did it.
Keep in mind that portability is only one aspect of a laptop. Mine lives in the house all the time and only occasionally travels from room to room. I mostly use it on the couch. The extra lb of weight isn't that big a deal to me, but I'm looking at that screen all the time, so the size and readability are of more importance to me. If I was a college student lugging the thing around all the time, I'd definitely go with the smaller model.
Either way, even the 14" model is still lighter than my indigo clamshell, with better resolution and a bigger screen.
New Audio
Did anyone notice the 15 inch AlumBook has 24bit audio subsystem ? I red their developers Pdf for both 17 and 15 inch, and it appears the 15 inch got this feature first, and no other powerbook or ibook has this yet.
Did anyone notice the 15 inch AlumBook has 24bit audio subsystem ? I red their developers Pdf for both 17 and 15 inch, and it appears the 15 inch got this feature first, and no other powerbook or ibook has this yet.
Re: New Audio
Actually, I think that may be a typo (in the 17" PB technote). There are other oddities in that document (like the Superdrive in teh 15" being superior to the one in the 17") that lead me to believe that it was kind rushed.
Actually, I think that may be a typo (in the 17" PB technote). There are other oddities in that document (like the Superdrive in teh 15" being superior to the one in the 17") that lead me to believe that it was kind rushed.
Different needs -- different choices
Good clarification about different needs. Personally, I bring my 14" to a few business meetings, but mostly it stays on my wife's desk, where she uses it for Quicken and a few games. In that regard, it's a small, quiet desktop machine. Before we got it, we looked at both side-by-side, and my wife nixed the 12" screen after about 2 seconds.
As you said, different needs lead to different choices. And it's great to have those choices.
Good clarification about different needs. Personally, I bring my 14" to a few business meetings, but mostly it stays on my wife's desk, where she uses it for Quicken and a few games. In that regard, it's a small, quiet desktop machine. Before we got it, we looked at both side-by-side, and my wife nixed the 12" screen after about 2 seconds.
As you said, different needs lead to different choices. And it's great to have those choices.
Re: And they´re of! 6 more month of lovley rumors!
If there is a version of the G3 with altivec planned, IBM hasn't said anything publically about it. Personally, I think it is fiction. But altivec doesn't necessarily cause more power draw. If you look at the 970, the Altivec unit is a drop in the bucket compared to most of the other logic on the chip.
Misinformation. Every program on the system makes use of the Altivec unit, in one way or the other, although only a few do so directly. Generally, only those programs that are designed for speed in the first place tend to use Altivec to an extent that it matters, but one of those programs is your operating system =).
Hmm... I'm not certain how I should feel about that . I'll just say thanks for the applause.
If there is a version of the G3 with altivec planned, IBM hasn't said anything publically about it. Personally, I think it is fiction. But altivec doesn't necessarily cause more power draw. If you look at the 970, the Altivec unit is a drop in the bucket compared to most of the other logic on the chip.
Misinformation. Every program on the system makes use of the Altivec unit, in one way or the other, although only a few do so directly. Generally, only those programs that are designed for speed in the first place tend to use Altivec to an extent that it matters, but one of those programs is your operating system =).
Hmm... I'm not certain how I should feel about that
. I'll just say thanks for the applause.Re: Re: More 14" bigotry
*cough*
my sister bought the 14 (against my pleadings, because of the size and portability of the 12 incher), BECAUSE it was 1024 x 768 at 14 inches. people really tend to forget what the 'average' user is these days - like everyone saying that because they didn't like single button mice, the bt mouse and keyboard were going to be the biggest flop since lisa.
good golly, do you know how many people i know with 17 inch monitors at 1024 x 768? my grandparents keep their 17 at a painfull 800x600...
the 14 has it's place, even though that place is not with me.
as for a 13, it will never happen. a ton of people buy the 12 incher purely based on it's size - it's small, it's light, it's durable.
make it bigger, there are *some* (not everyone) people who wouldn't want it anymore.
matt
*cough*
my sister bought the 14 (against my pleadings, because of the size and portability of the 12 incher), BECAUSE it was 1024 x 768 at 14 inches. people really tend to forget what the 'average' user is these days - like everyone saying that because they didn't like single button mice, the bt mouse and keyboard were going to be the biggest flop since lisa.
good golly, do you know how many people i know with 17 inch monitors at 1024 x 768? my grandparents keep their 17 at a painfull 800x600...
the 14 has it's place, even though that place is not with me.
as for a 13, it will never happen. a ton of people buy the 12 incher purely based on it's size - it's small, it's light, it's durable.
make it bigger, there are *some* (not everyone) people who wouldn't want it anymore.
matt
next update
My guess for the next 12" iBook update:
same G3 but at 1GHz
200MHz bus
Airport Extreme
BlueTooth
256MB RAM on motherboard
combo drive
40GB hdd
$1199
Current gen G3 goes to 1GHz with 200MHz bus. Might as well use it now...
Would be nice if the next 14" had a higher resolution screen, but I seriously doubt that will happen.
My guess for the next 12" iBook update:
same G3 but at 1GHz
200MHz bus
Airport Extreme
BlueTooth
256MB RAM on motherboard
combo drive
40GB hdd
$1199
Current gen G3 goes to 1GHz with 200MHz bus. Might as well use it now...
Would be nice if the next 14" had a higher resolution screen, but I seriously doubt that will happen.