Are new iphones starting to lag due to 1GB of RAM?

[sunking101]

Exactly.....I think of it this way.....if you go to an expensive restaurant, order your meal, start eating it, but notice that the inside is not fully heated even though the rest of it is pretty much perfect.....should you cut around the part that is not fully heated and not complain?

That's really what it comes down to.....many people look at it in a way that "it's just a phone, it's not the end of the world". Very true. This is minor compared to the issues in the world and on earth. However, speaking of a phone and specifics with it, it is worth mentioning. This is nearly a thousand dollar device

Agreed. It's only a phone and I certainly don't lose sleep over it, but this is the place to discuss such matters. I've owned my 6+ for less than two months and I'm already sick of it. No way should I be feeling this way so soon. I loved the iPhone 4 for two years and right now I'm wishing that I'd held onto my iPhone 5 for another year and seen what the 6S/S+ brought to the table. Hindsight eh!

Even if the 6+ had been no different to the i5 apart from the bigger screen and increased battery life, I could have lived with that but for it to be worse - much worse - in a core area is just unforgivable. I think that Apple should admit their mistake and offer a refund to be perfectly honest but that's obviously not going to happen. They'll take the money and move onto the next product.

 

[nj1266]

A couple points.....honest opinions.....

1.)My 6plus which lagged a bit at first has sped up with iOS updates (in regards to switching apps, double click of home button, etc)
2.)Safari simply DOES reload the pages very, very, very often. It makes it a less than capable web browser if you want to do anything other than stay on that page. Go to email and then come back.....it quite possibly will be reloaded. My iPhone 5 did not reload tabs like the 6 does. This also does not JUST happen in Safari. TapaTalk does the same thing.

Aside from #2 and the fact that iOS 8 still is not really fully polished, my 6plus is great. That being said, being that I use it PRIMARILY for browsing the web, it becomes apparent that it should have had 2GB of ram. Really shouldn't be any argument there. It just should have

I had the reload problem in tapatalk as well. Every time I left tapatalk to use another app and then came back, tapatalk will refresh and I would lose the thread that I was reading. It was very annoying. I solved it by disabling background refresh in the settings>general menu.

Now I can leave tapatalk and have five other apps running (I use them when I exercise on treadmill) and then come back to tapatalk with no refresh at all.

Try it and see if it works for you.

 

[cyb3rdud3]

I'm not talking about increased web browsing speed, nice high resolution screens, improved cameras or longer lasting batteries. I am merely stating as a fact that the iPhone 5 reloads apps and browser tabs MUCH less readily than the 6 Plus. Others have agreed.

And neither was I and millions have agreed, and the Galaxy and my dads army. Blah blah blah

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I had the reload problem in tapatalk as well. Every time I left tapatalk to use another app and then came back, tapatalk will refresh and I would lose the thread that I was reading. It was very annoying. I solved it by disabling background refresh in the settings>general menu.

Now I can leave tapatalk and have five other apps running (I use them when I exercise on treadmill) and then come back to tapatalk with no refresh at all.

Try it and see if it works for you.

Oh be careful surely that can't be the case with current models. I mean sunking states it is a fact and that others agree.

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Agreed. It's only a phone and I certainly don't lose sleep over it, but this is the place to discuss such matters. I've owned my 6+ for less than two months and I'm already sick of it. No way should I be feeling this way so soon. I loved the iPhone 4 for two years and right now I'm wishing that I'd held onto my iPhone 5 for another year and seen what the 6S/S+ brought to the table. Hindsight eh!



Even if the 6+ had been no different to the i5 apart from the bigger screen and increased battery life, I could have lived with that but for it to be worse - much worse - in a core area is just unforgivable. I think that Apple should admit their mistake and offer a refund to be perfectly honest but that's obviously not going to happen. They'll take the money and move onto the next product.

Just get rid of it, we've had so many threads with you going round and round in circles. The device is absolutely fine, yours isn't cool send it back.

 

[BlazingGold]

I had the reload problem in tapatalk as well. Every time I left tapatalk to use another app and then came back, tapatalk will refresh and I would lose the thread that I was reading. It was very annoying. I solved it by disabling background refresh in the settings>general menu.

Now I can leave tapatalk and have five other apps running (I use them when I exercise on treadmill) and then come back to tapatalk with no refresh at all.

Try it and see if it works for you.

Nope unfortunately I have no background refreshes enabled

 

[Zaft]

tab reloading really doesn't effect me because i really only browse one tab at a time. thats just my usage, i do the same on my laptop,

 

[11bE5]

Are new iphones starting to lag due to 1GB of RAM?

Why do you have the phone if it is causing you such mental anguish. I have read every post on this thread and wow! I it is such a a big problem, sell it ,get rid of it or better yet Don't Buy It.

 

[lordofthereef]

Why do you have the phone if it is causing you such mental anguish. I have read every post on this thread and wow! I it is such a a big problem, sell it ,get rid of it or better yet Don't Buy It.

People like o discuss. A lot can be learned by doing that. I posted probably a couple dozen times until I learned that Dolphin was better than when I had last used it.

I wouldn't call it mental anguish, at least not for me. I simply call it "discussion". Quite frankly I am happy I participated, despite the fact that my wants/needs were questioned multiple times.

 

[sunking101]

Why do you have the phone if it is causing you such mental anguish. I have read every post on this thread and wow! I it is such a a big problem, sell it ,get rid of it or better yet Don't Buy It.

Your "don't buy it" bit would be great if Apple had bothered to state that app & tab reloading was much worse than on the iPhone 5. As I'm now tied into a 2-year contract with a £700 handset, the only way out is buying a new handset outright and then selling the 6+. This is something I will toy with over the coming months but I'm not in a position to do so right this moment, and nor should I have to. However black & white it may seem to you with your "get rid of it" words of advice, as LordOfTheReef said, it's just a discussion....and neither of us are the OP. We chimed in with our opinions and mainly had a barrage of aggressive 'feedback' from a handful of 'Apple can do no wrong' types in return.

Nobody who has noticed the app & tab reloading issue has been in any way disrespectful to other posters. We have merely pointed out a flaw in the 6+ and voiced our opinion on it, in the correct forum and in a thread concerned with possible RAM limitations. That seems fairly reasonable to me. Nobody is suffering from mental anguish or losing sleep over this.

 

[sunking101]

People like o discuss. A lot can be learned by doing that. I posted probably a couple dozen times until I learned that Dolphin was better than when I had last used it.

I wouldn't call it mental anguish, at least not for me. I simply call it "discussion". Quite frankly I am happy I participated, despite the fact that my wants/needs were questioned multiple times.

Not a fan of Dolphin. I think it loads feature-rich webpages slower than Opera Coast and Safari, plus it doesn't support swiping forwards & backwards for navigation. It also caused a system crash with a resulting 'backboardd' in my diagnostics log.
That's the first complete system crash and reboot that I've ever suffered on my 6+, so I've deleted the Dolphin app. I'm glad that you're encountering no such problems.#

 

[sualpine]

To everyone saying that they don't have a problem on the 6/6+:

Congratulations, you have no lag on the iOS version your phone shipped with. That is to be expected.

Now, imagine iOS 9 on your phone when the 6S ships with 2 gigs of RAM and Apple QA barely tested on your phone at all. Good luck!

 

[lordofthereef]

Not a fan of Dolphin. I think it loads feature-rich webpages slower than Opera Coast and Safari, plus it doesn't support swiping forwards & backwards for navigation. It also caused a system crash with a resulting 'backboardd' in my diagnostics log.
That's the first complete system crash and reboot that I've ever suffered on my 6+, so I've deleted the Dolphin app. I'm glad that you're encountering no such problems.#

Interesting. I have had system crashes (bluescreen, so I assume that was) a couple days after I got the phone. I think I was in Safari, but it never happened again, so I shrugged it off.

I honestly haven;t tested load speeds, but to be honest, it isn;t so slow that it is worth me giving up tab reloads. As I have mentioned a few times way back in this thread, I actually do most of my web browsing on my phone on the go, so I often do have multiple tabs loaded. I guess what I am saying is, no reloads is both better on data AND a time saver, even if each page loads a tad bit slower.

As far as swipes, I can see how that would be annoying to someone who uses that feature. For some reason I have always used the back and forward buttons at the bottom of the browser window. I find that easier, especially one handed. The back button always "floats", so there is no extra work involved. And I must say I use back many times more often than forward.

At the end of the day, it isn't perfect (another minor gripe is the ugly green bar, which is unchangable AFAIK), but it has completely solved my reload issues. The only times I have found reloads was when leaving the phone idle for many hours and launching Dolphin again. THAT is how Safari should be. I also really like the ease of simply downloading a plugin on a desktop browser and automatically having yout entire bookmarks list imported, yet uncluttered. "Pushing" a web page from your desktop to your mobile is also a neat party trick; I don't use it too much, but I can see that being a useful feature for those who might. My wife gets a kick out of using it for recipes; she is a desktop browser who likes to quickly pull things up on her phone. I won't even mention what she was doing before...

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To everyone saying that they don't have a problem on the 6/6+:

Congratulations, you have no lag on the iOS version your phone shipped with. That is to be expected.

Now, imagine iOS 9 on your phone when the 6S ships with 2 gigs of RAM and Apple QA barely tested on your phone at all. Good luck!

I doubt that QA barely tests older devices. Truth be told, in many ways, 8.x has been more stable/smooth on older devices (specifically the 5S) than it has been on the 6 series, IME.

 

[sualpine]

Interesting. I have had system crashes (bluescreen, so I assume that was) a couple days after I got the phone. I think I was in Safari, but it never happened again, so I shrugged it off.

I honestly haven;t tested load speeds, but to be honest, it isn;t so slow that it is worth me giving up tab reloads. As I have mentioned a few times way back in this thread, I actually do most of my web browsing on my phone on the go, so I often do have multiple tabs loaded. I guess what I am saying is, no reloads is both better on data AND a time saver, even if each page loads a tad bit slower.

As far as swipes, I can see how that would be annoying to someone who uses that feature. For some reason I have always used the back and forward buttons at the bottom of the browser window. I find that easier, especially one handed. The back button always "floats", so there is no extra work involved. And I must say I use back many times more often than forward.

At the end of the day, it isn't perfect (another minor gripe is the ugly green bar, which is unchangable AFAIK), but it has completely solved my reload issues. The only times I have found reloads was when leaving the phone idle for many hours and launching Dolphin again. THAT is how Safari should be. I also really like the ease of simply downloading a plugin on a desktop browser and automatically having yout entire bookmarks list imported, yet uncluttered. "Pushing" a web page from your desktop to your mobile is also a neat party trick; I don't use it too much, but I can see that being a useful feature for those who might. My wife gets a kick out of using it for recipes; she is a desktop browser who likes to quickly pull things up on her phone. I won't even mention what she was doing before...

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I doubt that QA barely tests older devices. Truth be told, in many ways, 8.x has been more stable/smooth on older devices (specifically the 5S) than it has been on the 6 series, IME.

They will QA test the bare minimum they can get away with. Older devices don't get deep dives unless there is a significant level of Radars filed against them.

 

[predation]

You guys are fooling your selves. Tech companies don't do quality tests anymore.

That's what the consumer is for. Lol

 

[lordofthereef]

They will QA test the bare minimum they can get away with. Older devices don't get deep dives unless there is a significant level of Radars filed against them.

I would think that to be true about new models too. They aren't going to pur 10 million extra man hours more than what they can get away with. And with the 6 series, it shows.

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You guys are fooling your selves. Tech companies don't do quality tests anymore.

That's what the consumer is for. Lol

I think you are fooling yourself if you believe this to be 100% true. If sarcasm, apologies.

 

[cyb3rdud3]

Not a fan of Dolphin. I think it loads feature-rich webpages slower than Opera Coast and Safari, plus it doesn't support swiping forwards & backwards for navigation. It also caused a system crash with a resulting 'backboardd' in my diagnostics log.

That's the first complete system crash and reboot that I've ever suffered on my 6+, so I've deleted the Dolphin app. I'm glad that you're encountering no such problems.

It really is considerably slower, and can be measured as such.

Dolphin:


Safari:



Both on the iPhone 6+ and on the same network and same iOS 8 version.

 

[SeilerBird]

I don't think someone here, the choice given, would vote for 1 Gb.

I would. I am very happy with one gig. I don't want to pay for two gigs since I would never use two gigs.

 

[yjchua95]

It really is considerably slower, and can be measured as such.

Dolphin:
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Safari:
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Both on the iPhone 6+ and on the same network and same iOS 8 version.

Any 3rd party browser, until they're updated, will be far slower than Safari, since they only use the standard UIWebView which doesn't support NitroJS (exclusive to Safari until iOS 8).

After devs update their apps to use WKWebView instead, they'll have access to the NitroJS engine and be as fast as Safari.

 

[sanke1]

I would. I am very happy with one gig. I don't want to pay for two gigs since I would never use two gigs.

Damn I just had my IQ lowered by reading that submissive reply.

Who says you need to pay extra for additional 1 GB RAM? It should have come at no extra price.

At RAM wholesale prices, it would have cost them 1-2$ more to put it in. That may have increased cost by 10-20 million $. But that would have increased goodwill and reduced RAM related problems by half for the most demanding consumers. That is a pretty costly mistake made by Apple.

Famous Apple apologists like John Gruber have starting calling Apple out on this RAM issue and piss poor quality of iOS 8.

 

[sunking101]

Damn I just had my IQ lowered by reading that submissive reply.

Who says you need to pay extra for additional 1 GB RAM? It should have come at no extra price.

At RAM wholesale prices, it would have cost them 1-2$ more to put it in. That may have increased cost by 10-20 million $. But that would have increased goodwill and reduced RAM related problems by half for the most demanding consumers. That is a pretty costly mistake made by Apple.

Famous Apple apologists like John Gruber have starting calling Apple out on this RAM issue and piss poor quality of iOS 8.

Who here would not have gladly paid $50 extra to have 2GB of RAM? If profit really is the issue then Apple could have charged that $2 to the customer. Nobody would bat an eyelid if their £699 iPhone 6+ had cost £700.

This chronic lack of RAM is ruining the whole experience for me and to think that Apple skimped on putting a minimum of 2GB inside just to save themselves a couple of dollars, when my device is the most expensive on the market by a significant amount, really irks me.

 

[cyb3rdud3]

Who here would not have gladly paid $50 extra to have 2GB of RAM? If profit really is the issue then Apple could have charged that $2 to the customer. Nobody would bat an eyelid if their £699 iPhone 6+ had cost £700.

This chronic lack of RAM is ruining the whole experience for me and to think that Apple skimped on putting a minimum of 2GB inside just to save themselves a couple of dollars, when my device is the most expensive on the market by a significant amount, really irks me.

When it is so obvious to you, why didn't you just return it and kept using your beloved iPhone 5...

 

[sunking101]

When it is so obvious to you, why didn't you just return it and kept using your beloved iPhone 5...

#1 Gave my i5 to my father the day I got my 6+.
#2 It wasn't until I started to research the purchase of a new laptop that I fully realised the impact of the tab reloading, and this was over two weeks into my ownership.
#3 I didn't purchase from Apple, it was through my carrier.

None of your "you shouldn't have bought it then" guff in any way excuses Apple's decision to cripple the 6+ with a paltry 1GB of RAM.

 

[MDePew24]

I am lag free on my 6

 

[cyb3rdud3]

#1 Gave my i5 to my father the day I got my 6+.
#2 It wasn't until I started to research the purchase of a new laptop that I fully realised the impact of the tab reloading, and this was over two weeks into my ownership.
#3 I didn't purchase from Apple, it was through my carrier.

None of your "you shouldn't have bought it then" guff in any way excuses Apple's decision to cripple the 6+ with a paltry 1GB of RAM.

#1 Kind of you, I gave my 5S to my wife, and her 5 went to my daughter, and my iPad went to my other daughter when I got my 6+
#2 So it doesn't do it all the time then
#3 You still have a cooling off period, albeit as per #2 you kept it too long until your realised it is crippled
#4 I don't agree it is crippled, as such I couldn't possibly agree. In fact I find it so good that I was able to give away from iPad. And you only found out it was 'crippled' after a prolonged period of use, can't be that crippled then? Can you be a little bit crippled? I mean like a little bit pregnant? Hmm

 

[sunking101]

#1 Kind of you, I gave my 5S to my wife, and her 5 went to my daughter, and my iPad went to my other daughter when I got my 6+
#2 So it doesn't do it all the time then
#3 You still have a cooling off period, albeit as per #2 you kept it too long until your realised it is crippled
#4 I don't agree it is crippled, as such I couldn't possibly agree. In fact I find it so good that I was able to give away from iPad. And you only found out it was 'crippled' after a prolonged period of use, can't be that crippled then? Can you be a little bit crippled? I mean like a little bit pregnant? Hmm

I lf course noticed the incessant tab reloading immediately and was disappointed, but it wasn't until I really tried to use the phone for heavy browsing that I realised how much of a dealbreaker the 1GB of RAM is. It affects basic operational features for goodness sake. This is a 'phablet' and thus should be capable of more intensive use than a typical mobile phone. Come on though, I don't know why we're all bickering. I have my opinion, and believe it to be valid. You have yours and also believe it to be valid. I'm sure that nobody will be grumbling when iPhones finally get two or more gigs of RAM.

I used to complain about tab reloading on my iPhone 5 and was adamant that I wouldn't get the newer i6 due to it having the same amount of RAM. Due to the purchased apps I have and not really liking what the competition had to offer, I plumped for the 6+ after all. What I didn't expect was worse performance than my i5 when it comes to tab reloading. You can't blame me for expecting more of the same surely? I tell no lie, the iPhone 5 reloads tabs and apps *much* less readily than my 6+ and that is my issue with it. I just cannot get my head around why Apple released such a crippled 'flagship' device. This thing is soooo not futureproofed it's unreal! The iPhone 5 is more capable in a key area, and it's more than two years old. In hindsight, I would much rather have limped along with my iPhone 5 for another year and had £700 in my wallet. My 6+ is nothing but a temporary device until the 6S launches, and so in that respect it fills no more of a void than my old iPhone 5 would have.
The 6+ should be at least as good as the iPhone 5 in every respect, and better in some areas. That isn't the case sadly.

 

[sanke1]

Cliché statements from Apple for 2015 iPhone 6S models

"The most revolutionary device just got thinner, faster and better. Now you can open more than two apps at the same time. It's beyond magical. It's unreal. It's an iPhone 6S"

No mention of additional RAM would be made. Just hinting us with subtle messages which will appeal our subconscious.

Tear down will reveal 2GB RAM and A9 chipset.