Are new iphones starting to lag due to 1GB of RAM?

[cyb3rdud3]

The 6+ has a larger, higher resolution screen which requires more power from the GPU, which in turn is powered by the CPU. When you start actually running content on this screen, you're going to need more RAM. Especially for gaming. If you think the 1GB that the 32 bit iPhone 5 with its smaller, lower resolution screen was packing is sufficient to give similar performance on the 6+ then you're entitled to that opinion.
Oh and by the way, nothing you have said thus far (or any videos you have posted) have managed to convince me that my 6+ doesn't reload tabs and apps for fun. It even reloaded this post whilst I was typing it! I went to reply to a Whatsapp message and when I came back to my post it reloaded, clearing my text. Fortunately I'm used to this BS now and copied the text before I went into Whatsapp.

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You can't even swap between one app and two Safari tabs on the 6+ if you spend a minute or more in each.

So are you really saying that you were in Safari on this website, and only switched to whatsapp to reply and went straight back and you've lost what you entered so far in the reply?

Wow that is really not good, I can't say I use this website via the browser on my phone as I prefer tapatalk, but that is not good. I would suspect either a serious issue with your phone, or the coding of this website to be wrong and some event triggering, another could be network connectivity triggering an event to empty your content...However I would suggest something really isn't right.

And please don't go immediately that it is an inherent problem with the phone regarding ram as it isn't. Especially not for what you just described.

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Exiting an app to enter another one is only "asking for reloads" if you are exceeding ram requirements for those newer apps. In other words, iOS dumps the memory (in this case from your tabs) in order to free memory for newer applications.

But... isn;t that exactly what this thread is about? I know it works that way. Others know it works that way. They are unhappy with the amount of ram given.

Unless I am missing something...

It is but it only dumps the memory of the 'oldest' 'least used application' (well a little bit more complex than that but you know what I mean). So in the example given of typing something into a tap, then switching to whatsapp to reply and switching back, neither app should be dumped. If that is happening that it seems they've only installed a z80 processor with 16Kb of memory Perhaps the phone is a fake, or the website involved is very badly written or event driven to dump it when the focus goes away. I don't know, but something is not right and could explain the huge difference in experience that we all seem to have.

 

[sunking101]

When I tried Dolphin last night I opened a few tabs and then spent 5 minutes in the Ebay app. When I returned to Dolphin all the tabs reloaded. This also happens in Coast, and of course Safari.
Now I'm wondering if my other apps are causing limited RAM. I have a downloads app which contains a browser, and of course the Opera Coast app which has icons for bookmarks. Would these apps still consume RAM even when fully closed? What I mean is, if I have a couple of tabs open in each, but the apps themselves are force-closed and not in my app tray, would they still consume RAM? I used these same apps and in the same manner on my iPhone 5 with far less reloading issues, so it doesn't explain why the i5 coped better, but it may explain why some people in this thread don't experience the same issues that I do?

 

[cyb3rdud3]

Whilst other apps most definitely have an impact on RAM they should be managed by the OS first to such a degree that they get unloaded. That is unless they've been coded to be multitasking apps and then it maybe that the tabs get unloaded first.

Perhaps best to enabled developers mode, hook it up and see what's going on.

 

[benfica88]

So are you really saying that you were in Safari on this website, and only switched to whatsapp to reply and went straight back and you've lost what you entered so far in the reply?

Wow that is really not good, I can't say I use this website via the browser on my phone as I prefer tapatalk, but that is not good. I would suspect either a serious issue with your phone, or the coding of this website to be wrong and some event triggering, another could be network connectivity triggering an event to empty your content...However I would suggest something really isn't right.

And please don't go immediately that it is an inherent problem with the phone regarding ram as it isn't. Especially not for what you just described.

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It is but it only dumps the memory of the 'oldest' 'least used application' (well a little bit more complex than that but you know what I mean). So in the example given of typing something into a tap, then switching to whatsapp to reply and switching back, neither app should be dumped. If that is happening that it seems they've only installed a z80 processor with 16Kb of memory Perhaps the phone is a fake, or the website involved is very badly written or event driven to dump it when the focus goes away. I don't know, but something is not right and could explain the huge difference in experience that we all seem to have.

It also dumps higher usage apps first such as games. Some apps also have priority such as Facebook.

 

[Daiphoneboss]

When I tried Dolphin last night I opened a few tabs and then spent 5 minutes in the Ebay app. When I returned to Dolphin all the tabs reloaded. This also happens in Coast, and of course Safari.
Now I'm wondering if my other apps are causing limited RAM. I have a downloads app which contains a browser, and of course the Opera Coast app which has icons for bookmarks. Would these apps still consume RAM even when fully closed? What I mean is, if I have a couple of tabs open in each, but the apps themselves are force-closed and not in my app tray, would they still consume RAM? I used these same apps and in the same manner on my iPhone 5 with far less reloading issues, so it doesn't explain why the i5 coped better, but it may explain why some people in this thread don't experience the same issues that I do?

I believe opening up other browsers gives them priority which is why dolphin tabs might of reloaded, because you launched up other browsers

And makes no sense, i doubt you use 3 browsers, the 5 cant perform "leagues better" both have 1 same GB of ram and the apps your running are most likely 32 bit and not 64 bit (not that 64 bit apps take up much ram either)

The 6 Plus rendering at its resolution only needs about 10-15 more mb extra of ram to render a 24 bit color buffer on screen

 

[sunking101]

I believe opening up other browsers gives them priority which is why dolphin tabs might of reloaded, because you launched up other browsers

And makes no sense, i doubt you use 3 browsers, the 5 cant perform "leagues better" both have 1 same GB of ram and the apps your running are most likely 32 bit and not 64 bit (not that 64 bit apps take up much ram either)

The 6 Plus rendering at its resolution only needs about 10-15 more mb extra of ram to render a 24 bit color buffer on screen

I use two browsers, I only installed Dolphin to experiment with it after being advised to try it in this very thread. I mainly use Coast, but obviously Safari is the default and opens up automatically from links etc. It's also a cast iron fact that the iPhone 5 reloads apps and browser tabs much less readily than the 6+. I have seen the evidence myself, and other people have said so on these forums. Whatever the reason(s) for it, RAM most probably, it's very frustrating and for someone who mainly uses their phone for heavy browsing it's a dealbreaker.

 

[Daiphoneboss]

I use two browsers, I only installed Dolphin to experiment with it after being advised to try it in this very thread. I mainly use Coast, but obviously Safari is the default and opens up automatically from links etc. It's also a cast iron fact that the iPhone 5 reloads apps and browser tabs much less readily than the 6+. I have seen the evidence myself, and other people have said so on these forums. Whatever the reason(s) for it, RAM most probably, it's very frustrating and for someone who mainly uses their phone for heavy browsing it's a dealbreaker.

But i use my phone heavily and am a very heavy browser and dont experience these issues, Dolphin has been superb for me and doesnt reload at all when i have a few apps open in the background, and please do tell/show "evidence" of the delusional statements your making. Im constantly going back and forth between the browser and me being in Microsoft Word on my Plus, doing some little extra work with 4 tabs open in Dolphin and no reload at all

Both the 6 Plus and 5 have same amount of RAM and so that is almost impossible for the 5 to have "much more apps and tabs open without reload"

Rendering at 6 Plus screen resolution only uses about 15mb of extra RAM the most

So its very clear that your Plus is not performing as well as my Plus and other peoples Plus's here on this forum, and in your
statements it shows that your device behavior is not normal at all

I only have 2 suggestions for you, get a replacement Plus or basically deal with it as Android flagships with 3GB of RAM reload apps just as much as the 1GB iphone 6 and 6 Plus as confirmed and shown in many speed test videos online

 

[sunking101]

But i use my phone heavily and am a very heavy browser and dont experience these issues, Dolphin has been superb for me and doesnt reload at all when i have a few apps open in the background, and please do tell/show "evidence" of the delusional statements your making. Im constantly going back and forth between the browser and me being in Microsoft Word on my Plus, doing some little extra work with 4 tabs open in Dolphin and no reload at all

Both the 6 Plus and 5 have same amount of RAM and so that is almost impossible for the 5 to have "much more apps and tabs open without reload"

Rendering at 6 Plus screen resolution only uses about 15mb of extra RAM the most

So its very clear that your Plus is not performing as well as my Plus and other peoples Plus's here on this forum, and in your
statements it shows that your device behavior is not normal at all

I only have 2 suggestions for you, get a replacement Plus or basically deal with it as Android flagships with 3GB of RAM reload apps just as much as the 1GB iphone 6 and 6 Plus as confirmed and shown in many speed test videos online

Even my stock Notes app reloads when I go back to it.
I don't believe that our 6+ devices are any different, we just have different usage patterns and requirements. Many have commented on browser tab reloading, and lots thought that the 5S did it more than the i5, probably due to the 64bit o/s. The 6+ does it even more. Anyway, there's no point arguing about it. You can't fix it for me, and I don't need to try and convince you that it's a problem.

 

[Daiphoneboss]

Even my stock Notes app reloads when I go back to it.
I don't believe that our 6+ devices are any different, we just have different usage patterns and requirements. Many have commented on browser tab reloading, and lots thought that the 5S did it more than the i5, probably due to the 64bit o/s. The 6+ does it even more. Anyway, there's no point arguing about it. You can't fix it for me, and I don't need to try and convince you that it's a problem.

And my usage patterns are heavier then yours guranteed, i use very demanding computational apps (like garageband, iMovie, others, all which are 64 bit processes too)alongside with Google Now running and multiple chat programs running and browse the web almost all day , and i dont suffer from the severe issues your experiencing. I am telling you are 6 Plus devices are different as i literally did everything you said in your post and still no reload, so why are you experiencing reloads and that im not, despite having a heavier usage pattern then you?

I was able to write a post on Macrumors, go back to Whatsapp, answer a few messages i had in their and come back to the same very post and no reload at all, how come?

Just sounds like you dont even own a 6 Plus to be honest

Judging by your posts, there clearly is something very different with your Plus and my Plus as my 6 Plus does not have any screen responsiveness issues at all ever unlike your device, nor does it have reloading issues no where near as severe as you make them to be

I am able to make a short HD clip on iMovie and render it, and come back to the browser with no issue

Your trying to say your 6 Plus issues are all the same and everyone experience the issues you have, no , not in mine and many other peoples cases

 

[sunking101]

And my usage patterns are heavier then yours guranteed, i use very demanding computational apps (like garageband, iMovie, others, all which are 64 bit processes too)alongside with Google Now running and multiple chat programs running and browse the web almost all day , and i dont suffer from the severe issues your experiencing. I am telling you are 6 Plus devices are different as i literally did everything you said in your post and still no reload, so why are you experiencing reloads and that im not, despite having a heavier usage pattern then you?

I was able to write a post on Macrumors, go back to Whatsapp, answer a few messages i had in their and come back to the same very post and no reload at all, how come?

Just sounds like you dont even own a 6 Plus to be honest

Judging by your posts, there clearly is something very different with your Plus and my Plus as my 6 Plus does not have any screen responsiveness issues at all ever unlike your device, nor does it have reloading issues no where near as severe as you make them to be

I am able to make a short HD clip on iMovie and render it, and come back to the browser with no issue

Your trying to say your 6 Plus issues are all the same and everyone experience the issues you have, no , not in mine and many other peoples cases

It's great that you have a perfect device that handles all your requirements with aplomb. My i5 had limitations, and my 6+ has limitations. The frustrating thing is that the limitations on my 6+ are more of a dealbreaker than on my two generations older i5.
I'll just have to put up with it until either the 6S+ is released, or I cave early and buy an Android device.

 

[Max(IT)]

When I tried Dolphin last night I opened a few tabs and then spent 5 minutes in the Ebay app. When I returned to Dolphin all the tabs reloaded. This also happens in Coast, and of course Safari.
Now I'm wondering if my other apps are causing limited RAM. I have a downloads app which contains a browser, and of course the Opera Coast app which has icons for bookmarks. Would these apps still consume RAM even when fully closed? What I mean is, if I have a couple of tabs open in each, but the apps themselves are force-closed and not in my app tray, would they still consume RAM? I used these same apps and in the same manner on my iPhone 5 with far less reloading issues, so it doesn't explain why the i5 coped better, but it may explain why some people in this thread don't experience the same issues that I do?

If apps are fully closed and not in the multitasking switch, no, they don't consume RAM.
Again, if you are keeping "a few tabs" (how many? 4? 5?) on background while using another app for several minutes, you are asking for troubles.

 

[cyb3rdud3]

I use two browsers, I only installed Dolphin to experiment with it after being advised to try it in this very thread. I mainly use Coast, but obviously Safari is the default and opens up automatically from links etc. It's also a cast iron fact that the iPhone 5 reloads apps and browser tabs much less readily than the 6+. I have seen the evidence myself, and other people have said so on these forums. Whatever the reason(s) for it, RAM most probably, it's very frustrating and for someone who mainly uses their phone for heavy browsing it's a dealbreaker.

See it is posts like these that I disagree, whilst it may be fore you. It is not a fact for everyone that that iPhone 5 reloads apps and tabs much less readily than the 6+. Totally not my experience whatsoever.

 

[Max(IT)]

Even if it was true, and it's not, my other question is: why having a few tabs reloads is a problem?
Only session related tabs, like a post already started, ate going to lose some informations after a reload. Any other tabs will just be the same in a very little time.
How's that an issue?

 

[sunking101]

Even if it was true, and it's not, my other question is: why having a few tabs reloads is a problem?
Only session related tabs, like a post already started, ate going to lose some informations after a reload. Any other tabs will just be the same in a very little time.
How's that an issue?

I wouldn't find that an issue either, perhaps only if I had a lowly data plan. It's when I have to scroll to the bottom of a long note once more, re-input Ebay & Amazon search information, or retype a web post because the page has reloaded that it becomes frustrating.

 

[Max(IT)]

I wouldn't find that an issue either, perhaps only if I had a lowly data plan. It's when I have to scroll to the bottom of a long note once more, re-input Ebay & Amazon search information, or retype a web post because the page has reloaded that it becomes frustrating.

Are you doing eBay or Amazon searches all day long ?
What I mean is: you can just slightly change your browsing habits to circumvent the issue. Like not leaving posts in the middle of it or keep many tabs opened.

 

[sunking101]

Are you doing eBay or Amazon searches all day long ?
What I mean is: you can just slightly change your browsing habits to circumvent the issue. Like not leaving posts in the middle of it or keep many tabs opened.

Yes, that's what I will have to do. I generally just find it slightly annoying, but a few days ago when I was hunting for a new laptop and doing lots of research, it was extremely frustrating to the point of me hating my phone. It's only 5 weeks old and cost a lot of money, so it's sad to be hating on it so soon.

 

[Max(IT)]

Yes, that's what I will have to do. I generally just find it slightly annoying, but a few days ago when I was hunting for a new laptop and doing lots of research, it was extremely frustrating to the point of me hating my phone. It's only 5 weeks old and cost a lot of money, so it's sad to be hating on it so soon.

Well, to do more articulated researches on the web, your new laptop would be more appropriate

 

[sunking101]

Well, to do more articulated researches on the web, your new laptop would be more appropriate

This is true, but my old iPhone 5 could have handled it and my 6+ with 5.5" screen should be much more able. Yes I know it's a better phone in many respects, all respects really except reloading and portability. I just didn't expect it to be worse than the i5 in any area except portability.

 

[Max(IT)]

This is true, but my old iPhone 5 could have handled it and my 6+ with 5.5" screen should be much more able. Yes I know it's a better phone in many respects, all respects really except reloading and portability. I just didn't expect it to be worse than the i5 in any area except portability.

The point is that yours is the only one iPhone 6+ that's worse than iPhone 5 in web browsing experience....

 

[sunking101]

The point is that yours is the only one iPhone 6+ that's worse than iPhone 5 in web browsing experience....

Two or three people have said the same as me in this very thread. It's only a small cross-section of iPhone owners too.
It isn't the web browsing experience per se, it's the tab reloading (which I also experience with apps).

 

[Max(IT)]

Two or three people have said the same as me in this very thread. It's only a small cross-section of iPhone owners too.
It isn't the web browsing experience per se, it's the tab reloading (which I also experience with apps).

On forums like this, there are also users complaining about self bending iPhones and iPads with cases flexing just by keeping in your hands, if you believe them...

 

[sanke1]

To think of it, 1 GB RAM would be getting pushed to it's limits in iPhone 6 and 6+. But for tablets like iPad where primary use is browsing, 2 GB is must in this day and age.

I am sure that next model of iPhone 6S or 6S Plus will have 2 GB RAM. That would be the phone to buy. I have also noticed that mobile CPUs are almost on the level of low end desktop counterparts. So Apple will have to go out of the way to make modern mobile CPUs appear slow in 2 or 3 years.

 

[tryphone]

My 5c doesn't lag on iOS 8.1.2 never mind a 6

 

[lordofthereef]

Even if it was true, and it's not, my other question is: why having a few tabs reloads is a problem?
Only session related tabs, like a post already started, ate going to lose some informations after a reload. Any other tabs will just be the same in a very little time.
How's that an issue?

A few reasons:
1. Reloading tabs consumes data
2. Reloading tabs can sometimes load different information on the page
3. Reloading tabs can potentially have you lose any work you did in the tab beforehand

Those are my main three. (by the way, very happy with Dolphin. You may have noticed my not being around the thread much lol)

 

[Maziar]

Before buying my 6 plus,I had a note 2(2GB RAM) and played with a note 4/air 2 for some time.
First of all,I haven't experienced any lags with my phone.I usually have 1-3 tabs opened in Safari and haven't experienced any kinds of reloading so far.But of course with more tabs,you'll likely experience reloading.
As for app switch,it's not an instant experience but it's not unacceptable either.For example,when switching from Safari to Twitter or What'sapp,it takes about 5 seconds to fully switch.
As for more RAM,like I said,it definitely helps in some tasks but "for me" it doesn't ruin the whole experience and isn't a deal breaker.