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Are new iphones starting to lag due to 1GB of RAM?

sunking101 said:
I'm only infuriated when people claim that Apple products are perfect. If anyone points out a fairly widespread problem it is aggressively denied. For sure some individuals have problems brought on by corrupted installs and dodgy apps, but some issues are much more widespread. There are some here that deny any problems exist, and that if they do then setting up as a new phone or getting a replacement is the answer.
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Apple products aren't perfect. Perfection is out of this world ....

Well, Megan Fox being an exception :D
 
Max(IT) said:
While I think the lag could be quite subjective, the unresponsive display is something absolutely objective. Are you sure your device isn't defective in some way?
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No, I'm not absolutely sure. It did get *much* better with 8.1.2 though, and I'm hoping for more improvements.
 
Switching between apps fast while pulling up control panels have moderate amounts of studder fairly often. Whether that's ram issue or software issue, we won't know unless future update fixes it.
 
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sunking101 said:
You've never had an app crash, and you've never experienced ANY lag with your 6+?

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Copy and paste a very long list of text into the stock notes app. Then try to scroll down it fast. On any iPhone other than the 6+ this will be a fluid and lag-free operation.
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Just tried what u said and copied and pasted a very very long text in the notes stock app and the scrolled down really fast and guess what...... No lag at all buttery smooth
 
Max(IT) said:
And what should be the use of such activity?
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I think the point is, if you can get it to reach a bottleneck now, how will the device be two years from now?

The worst lag that I can replicate 100% of the time is playing a video in safari and going over to landscape. Two hard stutters (where the sound stutters as well). I will point out that I haven;t reproduced it in the youtube app, so that could be 100% software.

Is there an absolute necessity to have smoothness here? No, not really. I'll dump the phone in a year anyway. But I am sure those who bought a $1000 device with the hope that it last 2+ years might be a lttle bummed (should these issues not get fixed or even worsen, as they often do with agin hardware).

Meanwhile the 5S, which is now over a year old, is bulletproof. At least comparing it to our 6 plus. Granted, it's pushing far fewer pixels, but the fact remains that there are noticable points of stutter that I have never seen on a launch device from Apple (apparently the iPad 3 had issues though I never owned or experienced one to judge).
 
fitgirl said:
Just tried what u said and copied and pasted a very very long text in the notes stock app and the scrolled down really fast and guess what...... No lag at all buttery smooth
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Have you got a 6+?
If so, try pasting the same text into the notes app on an i5 or 5S and tell me that the scrolling isn't faster and smoother. I can scroll to the bottom of a 15 page note faster on my i5 than my 6+. Is this a major issue? No, but it demonstrates the lag.
 
lordofthereef said:
I think the point is, if you can get it to reach a bottleneck now, how will the device be two years from now?

The worst lag that I can replicate 100% of the time is playing a video in safari and going over to landscape. Two hard stutters (where the sound stutters as well). I will point out that I haven;t reproduced it in the youtube app, so that could be 100% software.

Is there an absolute necessity to have smoothness here? No, not really. I'll dump the phone in a year anyway. But I am sure those who bought a $1000 device with the hope that it last 2+ years might be a lttle bummed (should these issues not get fixed or even worsen, as they often do with agin hardware).

Meanwhile the 5S, which is now over a year old, is bulletproof. At least comparing it to our 6 plus. Granted, it's pushing far fewer pixels, but the fact remains that there are noticable points of stutter that I have never seen on a launch device from Apple (apparently the iPad 3 had issues though I never owned or experienced one to judge).
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I tried iOS 8.1 on an iPhone 5, an aging device. It runs quite well.
I'm not going to keep my iPhone for more than 2 years for sure ..... So I'm not worried
 
Max(IT) said:
I tried iOS 8.1 on an iPhone 5, an aging device. It runs quite well.
I'm not going to keep my iPhone for more than 2 years for sure ..... So I'm not worried
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I think most enthusiasts here don't keep their phones very long at all. As a product though, having such a low lifecycle isn't great. That's a very huge if. I am not a computer hardware designer or even very well versed with software. It's entirely possible that these issues get completey fixed with an update. It's also entirely possible that they don't, with what information we, the public, have in front of us.
 
sunking101 said:
Have you got a 6+?
If so, try pasting the same text into the notes app on an i5 or 5S and tell me that the scrolling isn't faster and smoother. I can scroll to the bottom of a 15 page note faster on my i5 than my 6+. Is this a major issue? No, but it demonstrates the lag.
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I have the 6 plus and I've had the 5s and the scrolling is the exact same I'm not sure If this is because my build week is 50 which is Decemeber and I have MLC
 
sunking101 said:
I'm only infuriated when people claim that Apple products are perfect.
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Really? Why do get so angry if someone has a viewpoint different than yours? You okay?

Besides, do people actually claim it is perfect for everyone and for every single feature/functionality and tradeoff made.

What I see is that people here are saying that it is perfect for them. Or actually, that they are happy with it and don't have a problem with hairgate or RAMgate or laggate or bendgate or sizegate or...

You do know there is a difference, right?

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sunking101 said:
Have you got a 6+?
If so, try pasting the same text into the notes app on an i5 or 5S and tell me that the scrolling isn't faster and smoother. I can scroll to the bottom of a 15 page note faster on my i5 than my 6+. Is this a major issue? No, but it demonstrates the lag.
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No. That doesn't demonstrate lag. It demonstrates the difference in performance of a 4 inch display and a 5.7 inch display.

The important thing is that the person you responded to said it was buttery smooth and your argument is reduced to "but...but...but...it isn't as buttery smooth as the 5, so therefore there is lag". You really are reaching and ... missing.
 
I've had a couple of instances where I was able to make my iPhone 6 hit a bottleneck and lock up, requiring a restart or the app just crashing to the home screen. Last time I can think of I had Google Maps up, music playing, messages coming in via Google voice and the Messages app at the same time. I went to switch songs and everything locked up so I restarted. Only happened about twice since I've had the phone (over 2 months now) so it's not a big deal. I'm pretty satisfied. I'll be getting the 6S or 6S Plus next year anyway.
 
McDaddio said:
Really? Why do get so angry if someone has a viewpoint different than yours? You okay?

Besides, do people actually claim it is perfect for everyone and for every single feature/functionality and tradeoff made.

What I see is that people here are saying that it is perfect for them. Or actually, that they are happy with it and don't have a problem with hairgate or RAMgate or laggate or bendgate or sizegate or...

You do know there is a difference, right?

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No. That doesn't demonstrate lag. It demonstrates the difference in performance of a 4 inch display and a 5.7 inch display.

The important thing is that the person you responded to said it was buttery smooth and your argument is reduced to "but...but...but...it isn't as buttery smooth as the 5, so therefore there is lag". You really are reaching and ... missing.
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You're entitled to your opinion. I think stuttering and slower scrolling is lag, not a difference in performance between display sizes. The i6 does not show this lag and it has a bigger screen than the i5. Anyway, I don't want an argument. Plenty of people have noticed that the 6+ is slower at times than the i6. Enough to suggest to me that my own device doesn't have some kind of peculiar and unique fault. Is it to do with TLC flash? The scaler? I have no idea. Some people will swear blind that iOS7 didn't render the iPhone 4 to be a paperweight. A lot of this is subjective, with some fanboyism thrown in too.
 
McDaddio said:
No. That doesn't demonstrate lag. It demonstrates the difference in performance of a 4 inch display and a 5.7 inch display.

The important thing is that the person you responded to said it was buttery smooth and your argument is reduced to "but...but...but...it isn't as buttery smooth as the 5, so therefore there is lag". You really are reaching and ... missing.
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And here is the problem, a difference in performance falls under the term "lag" in my book. Everyone seems to have a different definition of what lag is exactly

Until every action is instantaneous with no fps slowdowns, computers all
lag imo
And lag due to network activity will never really go away, which devices are increasingly more reliant on
 
gotluck said:
And here is the problem, a difference in performance falls under the term "lag" in my book. Everyone seems to have a different definition of what lag is exactly

Until every action is instantaneous with no fps slowdowns, computers all
lag imo
And lag due to network activity will never really go away, which devices are increasingly more reliant on
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Hit the nail on the head. Ask a gamer what lag is and it NEVER has to do with PS drops. It is ALWAYS a network issue. FPS drops means "buy new hardware n00b" :)
 
lordofthereef said:
Hit the nail on the head. Ask a gamer what lag is and it NEVER has to do with PS drops. It is ALWAYS a network issue. FPS drops means "buy new hardware n00b" :)
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Haha yes, for me lag was a term coined by the gaming community and it refers to ping/ latency. Computer or processor lag was explicitly referred to as fps lag :p

Now lag seems to mean just about anything
 
gotluck said:
And here is the problem, a difference in performance falls under the term "lag" in my book. Everyone seems to have a different definition of what lag is exactly
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Agreed. Everyone has different perception on what lag is, just like how people can have different tolerance level of pain or difference in tastes in food. I could've sworn I read somewhere that iOS puts priority on rendering UI (ex. animations) over everything (ex. apps) else so you don't see the "lag" unlike Android.
 
iPhone 6 here, no lags. The only lags evident amongst users because the associated apps are not iPhone 6 Plus compatible is not Apple's fault now, is it?
 
iThingsGurl said:
iPhone 6 here, no lags. The only lags evident amongst users because the associated apps are not iPhone 6 Plus compatible is not Apple's fault now, is it?
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Prior to 8.1.2 my 6+ lagged quite badly even in stock apps, and Safari crashed like crazy...
It is much improved now but still has the occasional stutter and crash. Curiously it's a couple of iOS8-approved apps which crash the most for me.
 
sunking101 said:
Well, just because you don't experience any lag or crashes during your light operation of the phone, it doesn't mean that it doesn't lag (or crash). I complile long notes all the time and compared to my 2 years+ iPhone 5, it stutters through them when scrolling. Countless apps crash too, and safari reloads for fun.
It's still a phone which has plenty of positives, but those here who deny the obvious negatives are infuriating.
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Nothing like that happening to me on my 16gb 6 Plus, get a replacement.
 
sunking101 said:
Prior to 8.1.2 my 6+ lagged quite badly even in stock apps, and Safari crashed like crazy...
It is much improved now but still has the occasional stutter and crash. Curiously it's a couple of iOS8-approved apps which crash the most for me.
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Should you not get your phone checked? A lot of people on this thread claim to have no problems with their 6+ (I have a 6 though)
 
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